adding blank pages without affecting page numbers
I'm working on a legacy doc (unstructured; Frame 7.2); the author is no longer available for consultation. In the Frame file, I have six pages, numbered x of 6. I have a PDF of this file (the previously approved and released version, which I am now revising); each of these pages is followed by a blank page. Let's assume that these are needed -- I don't know why, and there isn't time to find out. Does anyone know of something I can set up in the Frame file so that I don't have to remember to add the pages in Acrobat? As far as I can tell, the addition of blank pages was done manually. I tried adding Disconnected Pages in Frame, but it affects the page count. Many thanks. -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: adding blank pages without affecting page numbers
The blanks were probably added in Acrobat, not Frame... The only way you could fudge it in FM would be to manually set the page numbers, which I think would be more bother than it's worth. It'll take you about 93 seconds to do it in Acrobat... Art On 9/19/07, Milan Davidovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm working on a legacy doc (unstructured; Frame 7.2); the author is no longer available for consultation. In the Frame file, I have six pages, numbered x of 6. I have a PDF of this file (the previously approved and released version, which I am now revising); each of these pages is followed by a blank page. Let's assume that these are needed -- I don't know why, and there isn't time to find out. Does anyone know of something I can set up in the Frame file so that I don't have to remember to add the pages in Acrobat? As far as I can tell, the addition of blank pages was done manually. I tried adding Disconnected Pages in Frame, but it affects the page count. Many thanks. -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: adding blank pages without affecting page numbers
Hi, Milan: For a small number of pages that won't reflow as you edit (for example, you edit page 4 and it flows to page 5, causing page 6 to create a new page 7) you could create a book file and divide the original file into one-page files. Set the pagination to Make Page Count Even, then assign a starting page number to each component file. Look up the topic Page count across a book in FM Help, for the technique to achieve page n of xx pages. HTH Regards, Peter ___ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices On 9/19/07, Milan Davidovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm working on a legacy doc (unstructured; Frame 7.2); the author is no longer available for consultation. In the Frame file, I have six pages, numbered x of 6. I have a PDF of this file (the previously approved and released version, which I am now revising); each of these pages is followed by a blank page. Let's assume that these are needed -- I don't know why, and there isn't time to find out. Does anyone know of something I can set up in the Frame file so that I don't have to remember to add the pages in Acrobat? As far as I can tell, the addition of blank pages was done manually. I tried adding Disconnected Pages in Frame, but it affects the page count. Many thanks. -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: adding blank pages without affecting page numbers
Hi Milan, If you are always adding a blank page after each of the existing pages, you could have an Acrobat JavaScript script add them to the PDF file. Everytime you make a new PDF file, you would run the JavaScript script on the PDF file. You could also use FrameScript to postprocess the PDF file and add the pages. But if you only have 6 pages and you are not going to make the PDF many times, you might be better off adding the pages to the PDF by hand. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com I'm working on a legacy doc (unstructured; Frame 7.2); the author is no longer available for consultation. In the Frame file, I have six pages, numbered x of 6. I have a PDF of this file (the previously approved and released version, which I am now revising); each of these pages is followed by a blank page. Let's assume that these are needed -- I don't know why, and there isn't time to find out. Does anyone know of something I can set up in the Frame file so that I don't have to remember to add the pages in Acrobat? As far as I can tell, the addition of blank pages was done manually. I tried adding Disconnected Pages in Frame, but it affects the page count. Many thanks. -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: adding blank pages without affecting page numbers
Hi Milan, Here is a FrameMaker solution you can try for fun (at your own risk). Assuming you don't anticipate much page flow and you are using unstructured FrameMaker, try this: 1) Open the document. 2) Press Esc p z and click Freeze. 3) Put your cursor at the bottom of each content page and press Return until a new point page is added. 4) Go to each of the new, blank point pages. Choose Format Page Layout Master Page Usage and apply None master page to each of the point pages. This will suppress the point page numbers. Before you get too excited, check the document carefully. You may encounter any of the following problems: * Autonumbers will reset in each of the text frames. * Tables that break across pages will short circuit the page numbers. You can reverse the frozen pages by choosing Esc p z and clicking Unfreeze. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com I'm working on a legacy doc (unstructured; Frame 7.2); the author is no longer available for consultation. In the Frame file, I have six pages, numbered x of 6. I have a PDF of this file (the previously approved and released version, which I am now revising); each of these pages is followed by a blank page. Let's assume that these are needed -- I don't know why, and there isn't time to find out. Does anyone know of something I can set up in the Frame file so that I don't have to remember to add the pages in Acrobat? As far as I can tell, the addition of blank pages was done manually. I tried adding Disconnected Pages in Frame, but it affects the page count. Many thanks. -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: adding blank pages without affecting page numbers
Hi, Milan: You don't need to make a book within a book; just break the six-page chapter into separate files and set the numbering and pagination as I suggested earlier. If it's a long book with many pages, the suggestions to add the blanks in Acrobat are probably most efficient. HTH Regards, Peter ___ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices On 9/19/07, Rick Quatro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Milan, Here is a FrameMaker solution you can try for fun (at your own risk). Assuming you don't anticipate much page flow and you are using unstructured FrameMaker, try this: 1) Open the document. 2) Press Esc p z and click Freeze. 3) Put your cursor at the bottom of each content page and press Return until a new point page is added. 4) Go to each of the new, blank point pages. Choose Format Page Layout Master Page Usage and apply None master page to each of the point pages. This will suppress the point page numbers. Before you get too excited, check the document carefully. You may encounter any of the following problems: * Autonumbers will reset in each of the text frames. * Tables that break across pages will short circuit the page numbers. You can reverse the frozen pages by choosing Esc p z and clicking Unfreeze. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com I'm working on a legacy doc (unstructured; Frame 7.2); the author is no longer available for consultation. In the Frame file, I have six pages, numbered x of 6. I have a PDF of this file (the previously approved and released version, which I am now revising); each of these pages is followed by a blank page. Let's assume that these are needed -- I don't know why, and there isn't time to find out. Does anyone know of something I can set up in the Frame file so that I don't have to remember to add the pages in Acrobat? As far as I can tell, the addition of blank pages was done manually. I tried adding Disconnected Pages in Frame, but it affects the page count. Many thanks. -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: adding blank pages without affecting page numbers
Hi all, Just to wrap this up, I decided to go with Rick's idea (below). Once I've added the pages, I don't have to think about them any more, and I'm more likely to have to regenerate PDFs of the book in which this file resides than to have to make changes to this particular file that affect pagination. That said, the other ideas have provided me good food for thought; thank you very much for the time you took to write them up and post them to the list or send them to me privately. --Milan On 9/19/07, Rick Quatro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Milan, Here is a FrameMaker solution you can try for fun (at your own risk). Assuming you don't anticipate much page flow and you are using unstructured FrameMaker, try this: 1) Open the document. 2) Press Esc p z and click Freeze. etc. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
adding blank pages without affecting page numbers
I'm working on a legacy doc (unstructured; Frame 7.2); the author is no longer available for consultation. In the Frame file, I have six pages, numbered x of 6. I have a PDF of this file (the previously approved and released version, which I am now revising); each of these pages is followed by a blank page. Let's assume that these are needed -- I don't know why, and there isn't time to find out. Does anyone know of something I can set up in the Frame file so that I don't have to remember to add the pages in Acrobat? As far as I can tell, the addition of blank pages was done manually. I tried adding Disconnected Pages in Frame, but it affects the page count. Many thanks. -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com
adding blank pages without affecting page numbers
The blanks were probably added in Acrobat, not Frame... The only way you could fudge it in FM would be to manually set the page numbers, which I think would be more bother than it's worth. It'll take you about 93 seconds to do it in Acrobat... Art On 9/19/07, Milan Davidovic wrote: > I'm working on a legacy doc (unstructured; Frame 7.2); the author is > no longer available for consultation. > > In the Frame file, I have six pages, numbered x of 6. I have a PDF of > this file (the previously approved and released version, which I am > now revising); each of these pages is followed by a blank page. Let's > assume that these are needed -- I don't know why, and there isn't time > to find out. > > Does anyone know of something I can set up in the Frame file so that I > don't have to remember to add the pages in Acrobat? As far as I can > tell, the addition of blank pages was done manually. I tried adding > Disconnected Pages in Frame, but it affects the page count. > > Many thanks. > > -- > Milan Davidovic > http://altmilan.blogspot.com > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campbell at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > -- Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358
adding blank pages without affecting page numbers
Hi, Milan: For a small number of pages that won't reflow as you edit (for example, you edit page 4 and it flows to page 5, causing page 6 to create a new page 7) you could create a book file and divide the original file into one-page files. Set the pagination to Make Page Count Even, then assign a starting page number to each component file. Look up the topic "Page count across a book" in FM Help, for the technique to achieve "page n of xx pages." HTH Regards, Peter ___ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices On 9/19/07, Milan Davidovic wrote: > I'm working on a legacy doc (unstructured; Frame 7.2); the author is > no longer available for consultation. > > In the Frame file, I have six pages, numbered x of 6. I have a PDF of > this file (the previously approved and released version, which I am > now revising); each of these pages is followed by a blank page. Let's > assume that these are needed -- I don't know why, and there isn't time > to find out. > > Does anyone know of something I can set up in the Frame file so that I > don't have to remember to add the pages in Acrobat? As far as I can > tell, the addition of blank pages was done manually. I tried adding > Disconnected Pages in Frame, but it affects the page count. > > Many thanks. > > -- > Milan Davidovic > http://altmilan.blogspot.com > ___
adding blank pages without affecting page numbers
Hi Milan, If you are always adding a blank page after each of the existing pages, you could have an Acrobat JavaScript script add them to the PDF file. Everytime you make a new PDF file, you would run the JavaScript script on the PDF file. You could also use FrameScript to postprocess the PDF file and add the pages. But if you only have 6 pages and you are not going to make the PDF many times, you might be better off adding the pages to the PDF by hand. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com > I'm working on a legacy doc (unstructured; Frame 7.2); the author is > no longer available for consultation. > > In the Frame file, I have six pages, numbered x of 6. I have a PDF of > this file (the previously approved and released version, which I am > now revising); each of these pages is followed by a blank page. Let's > assume that these are needed -- I don't know why, and there isn't time > to find out. > > Does anyone know of something I can set up in the Frame file so that I > don't have to remember to add the pages in Acrobat? As far as I can > tell, the addition of blank pages was done manually. I tried adding > Disconnected Pages in Frame, but it affects the page count. > > Many thanks. > > -- > Milan Davidovic > http://altmilan.blogspot.com > ___
adding blank pages without affecting page numbers
On 9/19/07, Milan Davidovic wrote: > Does anyone know of something I can set up in the Frame file so that I > don't have to remember to add the pages in Acrobat? Hi all -- I'm getting various replies onlist and off; I'm replying offlist because the replies don't add much to the discussion. I'll summarize for the list later. Thanks to everyone so far. -- Milan Davidovic http://altmilan.blogspot.com
adding blank pages without affecting page numbers
Hi Milan, Here is a FrameMaker solution you can try for fun (at your own risk). Assuming you don't anticipate much page flow and you are using unstructured FrameMaker, try this: 1) Open the document. 2) Press Esc p z and click Freeze. 3) Put your cursor at the bottom of each content page and press Return until a new "point" page is added. 4) Go to each of the new, "blank" point pages. Choose Format > Page Layout > Master Page Usage and apply "None" master page to each of the point pages. This will suppress the point page numbers. Before you get too excited, check the document carefully. You may encounter any of the following problems: * Autonumbers will reset in each of the text frames. * Tables that break across pages will short circuit the page numbers. You can reverse the frozen pages by choosing Esc p z and clicking Unfreeze. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com > I'm working on a legacy doc (unstructured; Frame 7.2); the author is > no longer available for consultation. > > In the Frame file, I have six pages, numbered x of 6. I have a PDF of > this file (the previously approved and released version, which I am > now revising); each of these pages is followed by a blank page. Let's > assume that these are needed -- I don't know why, and there isn't time > to find out. > > Does anyone know of something I can set up in the Frame file so that I > don't have to remember to add the pages in Acrobat? As far as I can > tell, the addition of blank pages was done manually. I tried adding > Disconnected Pages in Frame, but it affects the page count. > > Many thanks. > > -- > Milan Davidovic > http://altmilan.blogspot.com > ___
adding blank pages without affecting page numbers
Hi, Milan: You don't need to make a book within a book; just break the six-page chapter into separate files and set the numbering and pagination as I suggested earlier. If it's a long book with many pages, the suggestions to add the blanks in Acrobat are probably most efficient. HTH Regards, Peter ___ Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices On 9/19/07, Rick Quatro wrote: > Hi Milan, > > Here is a FrameMaker solution you can try for fun (at your own risk). > Assuming you don't anticipate much page flow and you are using unstructured > FrameMaker, try this: > > 1) Open the document. > > 2) Press Esc p z and click Freeze. > > 3) Put your cursor at the bottom of each content page and press Return until > a new "point" page is added. > > 4) Go to each of the new, "blank" point pages. Choose Format > Page Layout > > Master Page Usage and apply "None" master page to each of the point pages. > This will suppress the point page numbers. > > Before you get too excited, check the document carefully. You may encounter > any of the following problems: > > * Autonumbers will reset in each of the text frames. > * Tables that break across pages will short circuit the page numbers. > > You can reverse the frozen pages by choosing Esc p z and clicking Unfreeze. > > Rick Quatro > Carmen Publishing > 585-659-8267 > www.frameexpert.com > > > > I'm working on a legacy doc (unstructured; Frame 7.2); the author is > > no longer available for consultation. > > > > In the Frame file, I have six pages, numbered x of 6. I have a PDF of > > this file (the previously approved and released version, which I am > > now revising); each of these pages is followed by a blank page. Let's > > assume that these are needed -- I don't know why, and there isn't time > > to find out. > > > > Does anyone know of something I can set up in the Frame file so that I > > don't have to remember to add the pages in Acrobat? As far as I can > > tell, the addition of blank pages was done manually. I tried adding > > Disconnected Pages in Frame, but it affects the page count. > > > > Many thanks. > > > > -- > > Milan Davidovic > > http://altmilan.blogspot.com > > ___
adding blank pages without affecting page numbers
Hi all, Just to wrap this up, I decided to go with Rick's idea (below). Once I've added the pages, I don't have to think about them any more, and I'm more likely to have to regenerate PDFs of the book in which this file resides than to have to make changes to this particular file that affect pagination. That said, the other ideas have provided me good food for thought; thank you very much for the time you took to write them up and post them to the list or send them to me privately. --Milan On 9/19/07, Rick Quatro wrote: > Hi Milan, > > Here is a FrameMaker solution you can try for fun (at your own risk). > Assuming you don't anticipate much page flow and you are using unstructured > FrameMaker, try this: > > 1) Open the document. > > 2) Press Esc p z and click Freeze. etc.
