Re: creating a rotated master page

2007-07-04 Thread rebecca officer
Hi Leah

Sidebars are a feature of a flow, not of an individual page. You can get
text to act as if the sidebars aren't there by using the pagination
settings in the paragraph designer. Select across all columns and
sidebars.

I'm at home so can't check on FM, but I think all you have to do with
tables is make them too wide to fit in the main column. Then they
automatically move to occupy the sidebar too.

Add Master Page should be at the bottom of the Special menu, but I think
you have to be viewing the Master pages to see it.

Cheers, Rebecca


 Leah Smaller [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/04/07 8:20 PM 
This question is for Framemaker 7.0

I want to create a rotated page (to accomodate a large table) in a
document that uses side heads. I also want the header and footers to
appear in their usual position, so only the text frame is rotated. I do
not want the roated page to have side heads.
so, first i tried this:  Format  Page Layout  New Master Page. Here I
can only create a new master page based on the current page's layout
(which of course has side heads). I tried this and then I could not find
a way to get rid of the side heads.

Then I looked in FM help. It told me that to create an empty master
page, go to  Special  Add Master Page. Well, Add Master Page does not
appear in the Special menu!

How do I do what I want: a rotated page, no side heads, using the
headers and footers of the unroated pages?

TIA,
Leah Smaller
Technical Communicator
Certified Feldenkrais Method practitioner
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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RE: creating a rotated master page

2007-07-04 Thread Fred Ridder

You have to be viewing master pages (ViewMaster Pages) in order
to see the Add Master Page command in the Special menu. Like many
FrameMaker menu items, it is context-senstive and only appears when
it is relevant.



From: Leah Smaller [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Frame Users framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: creating a rotated master page
Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 10:20:25 +0200

This question is for Framemaker 7.0

I want to create a rotated page (to accomodate a large table) in a document 
that uses side heads. I also want the header and footers to appear in their 
usual position, so only the text frame is rotated. I do not want the roated 
page to have side heads.
so, first i tried this:  Format  Page Layout  New Master Page. Here I can 
only create a new master page based on the current page's layout (which of 
course has side heads). I tried this and then I could not find a way to get 
rid of the side heads.


Then I looked in FM help. It told me that to create an empty master page, 
go to  Special  Add Master Page. Well, Add Master Page does not appear in 
the Special menu!


How do I do what I want: a rotated page, no side heads, using the headers 
and footers of the unroated pages?


TIA,
Leah Smaller
Technical Communicator
Certified Feldenkrais Method practitioner
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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(Dr. Moshe Feldenkrais)

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creating a rotated master page

2007-07-04 Thread Leah Smaller
This question is for Framemaker 7.0

I want to create a rotated page (to accomodate a large table) in a document 
that uses side heads. I also want the header and footers to appear in their 
usual position, so only the text frame is rotated. I do not want the roated 
page to have side heads.
so, first i tried this:  Format > Page Layout > New Master Page. Here I can 
only create a new master page based on the current page's layout (which of 
course has side heads). I tried this and then I could not find a way to get rid 
of the side heads.

Then I looked in FM help. It told me that to create an empty master page, go to 
 Special > Add Master Page. Well, Add Master Page does not appear in the 
Special menu!

How do I do what I want: a rotated page, no side heads, using the headers and 
footers of the unroated pages?

TIA,
Leah Smaller
Technical Communicator
Certified Feldenkrais Method practitioner
leah at compulite.com

"What you truly learn best will appear to you later as your own discovery." 
(Dr. Moshe Feldenkrais)



creating a rotated master page

2007-07-04 Thread rebecca officer
Hi Leah

Sidebars are a feature of a flow, not of an individual page. You can get
text to act as if the sidebars aren't there by using the pagination
settings in the paragraph designer. Select "across all columns and
sidebars."

I'm at home so can't check on FM, but I think all you have to do with
tables is make them too wide to fit in the main column. Then they
automatically move to occupy the sidebar too.

Add Master Page should be at the bottom of the Special menu, but I think
you have to be viewing the Master pages to see it.

Cheers, Rebecca


>>> "Leah Smaller"  07/04/07 8:20 PM >>>
This question is for Framemaker 7.0

I want to create a rotated page (to accomodate a large table) in a
document that uses side heads. I also want the header and footers to
appear in their usual position, so only the text frame is rotated. I do
not want the roated page to have side heads.
so, first i tried this:  Format > Page Layout > New Master Page. Here I
can only create a new master page based on the current page's layout
(which of course has side heads). I tried this and then I could not find
a way to get rid of the side heads.

Then I looked in FM help. It told me that to create an empty master
page, go to  Special > Add Master Page. Well, Add Master Page does not
appear in the Special menu!

How do I do what I want: a rotated page, no side heads, using the
headers and footers of the unroated pages?

TIA,
Leah Smaller
Technical Communicator
Certified Feldenkrais Method practitioner
leah at compulite.com

"What you truly learn best will appear to you later as your own
discovery." (Dr. Moshe Feldenkrais)
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creating a rotated master page

2007-07-04 Thread Maxwell Hoffmann
Hi Leah,

I assume that you want a rotated (landscape) page, with headers and footers 
that cosmetically appear "rotated" on the left and right side of the rotate 
page, but a "right reading" body column which you can edit when viewing body 
pages. 

Try this:
== View=>Master Pages
== Special=>Add Master Page
   == Name the Page and choose which existing Master Page
  to copy (e.g. right or left) 
== Format=>Customize Layout=>Rotate Page Clockwise
(You now have a rotated page with heades and footers where you wish them)
== Use the drawing tools to carefully draw a red box exactly over the 
   body column
== Select the body column (control click) on master page and 
Graphics=>Rotate=>Counterclockwise
== Carefully resize and reposition Body Column so that it is exactly on top of 
the red box you drew.
== Select the red box and delete it
== NOTE: you now have a landscape page with "rotated" vertical headers and 
footers on either side of the page.
== View Body Page
== Create a blank paragraph and give it a page break to start a new page
== Format=>Page Layout=>Master Page Usage and choose your new master page style
   from () Custom
== you have a landscape page (with sideheads) and headers/footers where you 
want them
== create a table that is wider than the non-head area of the sidehead, and 
your table will fill the width of the page.
== if you wish to have the master page style paginate with the table, you may 
wish to create a special paragraph style for starting landscape pages, and then 
map that paragraph style to your new master page. Look up "Assigning master 
pages to body pages containing paragraph tags" in FrameMaker's online help.

I hope this helped, and that my assumptions were correct in what you were 
trying to achieve.


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Subject: creating a rotated master page

This question is for Framemaker 7.0

I want to create a rotated page (to accomodate a large table) in a document 
that uses side heads. I also want the header and footers to appear in their 
usual position, so only the text frame is rotated. I do not want the roated 
page to have side heads.
so, first i tried this:  Format > Page Layout > New Master Page. Here I can 
only create a new master page based on the current page's layout (which of 
course has side heads). I tried this and then I could not find a way to get rid 
of the side heads.

Then I looked in FM help. It told me that to create an empty master page, go to 
 Special > Add Master Page. Well, Add Master Page does not appear in the 
Special menu!

How do I do what I want: a rotated page, no side heads, using the headers and 
footers of the unroated pages?

TIA,
Leah Smaller
Technical Communicator
Certified Feldenkrais Method practitioner leah at compulite.com

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creating a rotated master page

2007-07-04 Thread Fred Ridder
You have to be viewing master pages (View>Master Pages) in order
to see the Add Master Page command in the Special menu. Like many
FrameMaker menu items, it is context-senstive and only appears when
it is relevant.


>From: "Leah Smaller" 
>To: "Frame Users" 
>Subject: creating a rotated master page
>Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2007 10:20:25 +0200
>
>This question is for Framemaker 7.0
>
>I want to create a rotated page (to accomodate a large table) in a document 
>that uses side heads. I also want the header and footers to appear in their 
>usual position, so only the text frame is rotated. I do not want the roated 
>page to have side heads.
>so, first i tried this:  Format > Page Layout > New Master Page. Here I can 
>only create a new master page based on the current page's layout (which of 
>course has side heads). I tried this and then I could not find a way to get 
>rid of the side heads.
>
>Then I looked in FM help. It told me that to create an empty master page, 
>go to  Special > Add Master Page. Well, Add Master Page does not appear in 
>the Special menu!
>
>How do I do what I want: a rotated page, no side heads, using the headers 
>and footers of the unroated pages?
>
>TIA,
>Leah Smaller
>Technical Communicator
>Certified Feldenkrais Method practitioner
>leah at compulite.com
>
>"What you truly learn best will appear to you later as your own discovery." 
>(Dr. Moshe Feldenkrais)
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