RE: images for mif2go

2006-05-04 Thread Diane Gaskill
Why are you using BMPs John?  I work in both FM and Word and never use BMPs
for anything.  BMP graphics are very large and unnecesarily bloat up the
Word doc.  And from what I've seen, they don't give me any better pictures
than JPGs, or for that matter, GIFs. when embedded in Word.

Diane Gaskill
Lockheed Martin Space Systems Co.

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 If I am writing a doc set with which I may have to use mif2go to
 make a Word version of the Frame book (long story), is it true that
 I should be putting only BMPs in my Frame file, since I believe I
 recall someone saying that non-BMP images in Frame do not always
 turn out sized properly in Word after going through mif2go?

No...you put a BMP version of your images in a directory (I use the
output directory) and instruct Mif2Go to swap the GIFs/PNGs/TIFs with
the BMPs when generating the Word files.

I use PaintShopPro to batch convert the images.


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RE: images for mif2go

2006-05-04 Thread John Posada
--- Diane Gaskill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Why are you using BMPs John?  I work in both FM and 
 Word and never use BMPs for anything.  BMP graphics 
 are very large and unnecesarily bloat
 up the Word doc.  And from what I've seen, they don't 
 give me any better pictures
 than JPGs, or for that matter, GIFs. when embedded in Word.

BMPs are an interim step. They are used by Mif2Go to create the
images imbedded in the Word files. They are not used in any of the
documentation

It's a recommended practice with Mif2Go. I'm sure that Jeremy will be
checking in on this any moment to either confirm what I say (and say
it better), or tell me why what I'm doing is not the best way.



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Re: images for mif2go

2006-05-04 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Thu, 4 May 2006 04:31:00 -0700 (PDT), John Posada 
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BMPs are an interim step. They are used by Mif2Go to create the
images imbedded in the Word files. They are not used in any of the
documentation

Right.  For Word RTF, the only way to put in an image
that you can scale (to match the size in Frame) is to
embed it as a WMF.  Bitmaps in WMFs are very similar
to BMPs, so it's the best format to start with.

It's a recommended practice with Mif2Go. I'm sure that Jeremy will be
checking in on this any moment to either confirm what I say (and say
it better), or tell me why what I'm doing is not the best way.

It *is* the best way, when you want properly scaled
images in Word at the best resolution.  Mif2Go can
make the BMPs for itself from other formats, but it
uses Frame's graphic export filters to do that, and
those filters are limited to screen resolution.  That's
fine for docs only viewed on screen, but looks poor
when printed.  Preconverting preserves the original
resolution.  It also lets us include any callouts or
other Frame additions as vector elements in the WMF.

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
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images for mif2go

2006-05-04 Thread Diane Gaskill
Why are you using BMPs John?  I work in both FM and Word and never use BMPs
for anything.  BMP graphics are very large and unnecesarily bloat up the
Word doc.  And from what I've seen, they don't give me any better pictures
than JPGs, or for that matter, GIFs. when embedded in Word.

Diane Gaskill
Lockheed Martin Space Systems Co.

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Subject: Re: images for mif2go


> If I am writing a doc set with which I may have to use mif2go to
> make a Word version of the Frame book (long story), is it true that
> I should be putting only BMPs in my Frame file, since I believe I
> recall someone saying that non-BMP images in Frame do not always
> turn out sized properly in Word after going through mif2go?

No...you put a BMP version of your images in a directory (I use the
output directory) and instruct Mif2Go to swap the GIFs/PNGs/TIFs with
the BMPs when generating the Word files.

I use PaintShopPro to batch convert the images.


John Posada
Senior Technical Writer

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images for mif2go

2006-05-04 Thread John Posada
--- Diane Gaskill  wrote:

> Why are you using BMPs John?  I work in both FM and 
> Word and never use BMPs for anything.  BMP graphics 
> are very large and unnecesarily bloat
> up the Word doc.  And from what I've seen, they don't 
> give me any better pictures
> than JPGs, or for that matter, GIFs. when embedded in Word.

BMPs are an interim step. They are used by Mif2Go to create the
images imbedded in the Word files. They are not used in any of the
documentation

It's a recommended practice with Mif2Go. I'm sure that Jeremy will be
checking in on this any moment to either confirm what I say (and say
it better), or tell me why what I'm doing is not the best way.



John Posada
Senior Technical Writer

"So long and thanks for all the fish."



images for mif2go

2006-05-04 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Thu, 4 May 2006 04:31:00 -0700 (PDT), John Posada 
 wrote:

>BMPs are an interim step. They are used by Mif2Go to create the
>images imbedded in the Word files. They are not used in any of the
>documentation

Right.  For Word RTF, the only way to put in an image
that you can scale (to match the size in Frame) is to
embed it as a WMF.  Bitmaps in WMFs are very similar
to BMPs, so it's the best format to start with.

>It's a recommended practice with Mif2Go. I'm sure that Jeremy will be
>checking in on this any moment to either confirm what I say (and say
>it better), or tell me why what I'm doing is not the best way.

It *is* the best way, when you want properly scaled
images in Word at the best resolution.  Mif2Go can
make the BMPs for itself from other formats, but it
uses Frame's graphic export filters to do that, and
those filters are limited to screen resolution.  That's
fine for docs only viewed on screen, but looks poor
when printed.  Preconverting preserves the original
resolution.  It also lets us include any callouts or
other Frame additions as vector elements in the WMF.

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
http://www.omsys.com/



Re: images for mif2go

2006-04-29 Thread John Posada
 If I am writing a doc set with which I may have to use mif2go to
 make a Word version of the Frame book (long story), is it true that
 I should be putting only BMPs in my Frame file, since I believe I
 recall someone saying that non-BMP images in Frame do not always
 turn out sized properly in Word after going through mif2go?

No...you put a BMP version of your images in a directory (I use the
output directory) and instruct Mif2Go to swap the GIFs/PNGs/TIFs with
the BMPs when generating the Word files.

I use PaintShopPro to batch convert the images.


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images for mif2go

2006-04-29 Thread obai...@comcast.net
If I am writing a doc set with which I may have to use mif2go to make a Word 
version of the Frame book (long story), is it true that I should be putting 
only BMPs in my Frame file, since I believe I recall someone saying that 
non-BMP images in Frame do not always turn out sized properly in Word after 
going through mif2go?

Thanks.

Paul



images for mif2go

2006-04-29 Thread John Posada
> If I am writing a doc set with which I may have to use mif2go to
> make a Word version of the Frame book (long story), is it true that
> I should be putting only BMPs in my Frame file, since I believe I
> recall someone saying that non-BMP images in Frame do not always
> turn out sized properly in Word after going through mif2go?

No...you put a BMP version of your images in a directory (I use the
output directory) and instruct Mif2Go to swap the GIFs/PNGs/TIFs with
the BMPs when generating the Word files.

I use PaintShopPro to batch convert the images.


John Posada
Senior Technical Writer

"So long and thanks for all the fish."



Re: images for mif2go

2006-04-28 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 00:06:57 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

If I am writing a doc set with which I may have to use 
mif2go to make a Word version of the Frame book (long 
story), is it true that I should be putting only BMPs 
in my Frame file,

Not necessarily.  You simply need to have a .bmp for
each graphic you use in Frame that isn't a .bmp.  And
your graphics should all be referenced, not embedded,
which is best practice in Frame anyway.  If you put
each .bmp in the same directory as the matching .gif
(or whatever other format), Mif2Go can find and use
them when you make the settings in User's Guide par.
5.16.2.1, Converting referenced graphics before Mif2Go 
(best quality).  Otherwise, Mif2Go can convert them
itself, but that's slower and limited to the screen 
resolution, as in par. 5.16.2.2, Converting referenced 
graphics with Mif2Go (least effort).

since I believe I recall someone saying 

LOL!  That was me, quite recently...

that non-BMP images in Frame do not always turn out 
sized properly in Word after going through mif2go?

More precisely, since Word does not have a way of
specifying scaling in an IMPORTPICTURE field, the
only way of having Word import non-BMP (or WMF)
images, they will *never* be sized properly unless
they are coincidentally sized at 96 DPI in Frame,
as explained in par. 5.16.2.3, Leaving graphics 
unconverted for Word (no scaling).

HTH!

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  http://www.omsys.com/
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images for mif2go

2006-04-28 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Sat, 29 Apr 2006 00:06:57 +, obair81 at comcast.net 
wrote:

>If I am writing a doc set with which I may have to use 
>mif2go to make a Word version of the Frame book (long 
>story), is it true that I should be putting only BMPs 
>in my Frame file,

Not necessarily.  You simply need to have a .bmp for
each graphic you use in Frame that isn't a .bmp.  And
your graphics should all be referenced, not embedded,
which is best practice in Frame anyway.  If you put
each .bmp in the same directory as the matching .gif
(or whatever other format), Mif2Go can find and use
them when you make the settings in User's Guide par.
5.16.2.1, "Converting referenced graphics before Mif2Go 
(best quality)".  Otherwise, Mif2Go can convert them
itself, but that's slower and limited to the screen 
resolution, as in par. 5.16.2.2, "Converting referenced 
graphics with Mif2Go (least effort)".

>since I believe I recall someone saying 

LOL!  That was me, quite recently...

>that non-BMP images in Frame do not always turn out 
>sized properly in Word after going through mif2go?

More precisely, since Word does not have a way of
specifying scaling in an IMPORTPICTURE field, the
only way of having Word import non-BMP (or WMF)
images, they will *never* be sized properly unless
they are coincidentally sized at 96 DPI in Frame,
as explained in par. 5.16.2.3, "Leaving graphics 
unconverted for Word (no scaling)".

HTH!

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
http://www.omsys.com/