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serious problem with users FM 9

2009-11-26 Thread Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp

Hi,

 

Does any of you recognise this: for a client I created a FM app (FM9) and
modified the struct apps file for this. Now an employee logs in on the same
computer but with a different user name - and the modified struct aps is not
found. Apparently it has been stored in the local user folder of the person
who logged in when we modified the struct apps file. So it seems that
anytime someone makes a change (normally only the admin of course) the
central struct apps file must be replaced manually. Is there no other option
for this - like deactivating the local struct apps file in the user folder?

 

How does FM read the struct apps - does it first read the struct apps file
in the FM Installation folder and then the one in the user folder and what
happens with conflicting settings?

 

Thanks,

 

Kind regards, vriendelijke groet,

Wim Hooghwinkel

iDTP - Technical Communication Consultant

Adobe Certified Expert (ACE) in FrameMaker

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Re: serious problem with users FM 9

2009-11-26 Thread Yves Barbion

Hi Wim

Indeed, this is a (maintenance) problem. I've been looking in the FM
Preferences and in the Help too whether this can be changed, but I haven't
found anything yet.

Maybe you could try this workaround: import your struct app as a text inset
in the user's struct app. If you do so, you may have to change or replace
some variables (for example $STRUCTDIR) as well. And you may have to do this
for each user.

Good luck.


-- 
Yves Barbion
www.scripto.nu



On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp w...@idtp.euwrote:

 Hi,



 Does any of you recognise this: for a client I created a FM app (FM9) and
 modified the struct apps file for this. Now an employee logs in on the same
 computer but with a different user name - and the modified struct aps is
 not
 found. Apparently it has been stored in the local user folder of the person
 who logged in when we modified the struct apps file. So it seems that
 anytime someone makes a change (normally only the admin of course) the
 central struct apps file must be replaced manually. Is there no other
 option
 for this - like deactivating the local struct apps file in the user folder?



 How does FM read the struct apps - does it first read the struct apps file
 in the FM Installation folder and then the one in the user folder and what
 happens with conflicting settings?



 Thanks,



 Kind regards, vriendelijke groet,

 Wim Hooghwinkel

 iDTP - Technical Communication Consultant

 Adobe Certified Expert (ACE) in FrameMaker

 tel. +31652036811
 Skype wimhooghwinkel
 Twitter @idtp @NLDITA
  mailto:i...@idtp.eu i...@idtp.eu
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Re: serious problem with users FM 9

2009-11-26 Thread wim

Well, we've made a construct where the customized struct apps are  
stored on a shared network drive and these are imported as text inset  
in the default struct apps file. So maintenance on these apps is not a  
problem.

Only when we made a new FrameMaker install and modified the struct  
apps file for this (imported the text insets) the new apps were not  
available for new users.


-- 
Vriendelijke groet,

Wim Hooghwinkel

Adobe Certified Expert (ACE) in FrameMaker

iDTP

International DTP and Documentation Consultancy

tel. +31652036811
i...@idtp.eu
www.idtp.eu



Citeren Yves Barbion yves.barb...@gmail.com:

 Hi Wim

 Indeed, this is a (maintenance) problem. I've been looking in the FM
 Preferences and in the Help too whether this can be changed, but I haven't
 found anything yet.

 Maybe you could try this workaround: import your struct app as a text inset
 in the user's struct app. If you do so, you may have to change or replace
 some variables (for example $STRUCTDIR) as well. And you may have to do this
 for each user.

 Good luck.


 --
 Yves Barbion
 www.scripto.nu



 On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp w...@idtp.euwrote:

 Hi,



 Does any of you recognise this: for a client I created a FM app (FM9) and
 modified the struct apps file for this. Now an employee logs in on the same
 computer but with a different user name - and the modified struct aps is
 not
 found. Apparently it has been stored in the local user folder of the person
 who logged in when we modified the struct apps file. So it seems that
 anytime someone makes a change (normally only the admin of course) the
 central struct apps file must be replaced manually. Is there no other
 option
 for this - like deactivating the local struct apps file in the user folder?



 How does FM read the struct apps - does it first read the struct apps file
 in the FM Installation folder and then the one in the user folder and what
 happens with conflicting settings?



 Thanks,



 Kind regards, vriendelijke groet,

 Wim Hooghwinkel

 iDTP - Technical Communication Consultant

 Adobe Certified Expert (ACE) in FrameMaker

 tel. +31652036811
 Skype wimhooghwinkel
 Twitter @idtp @NLDITA
  mailto:i...@idtp.eu i...@idtp.eu
 www.idtp.eu

 FrameMaker support: framema...@idtp.eu



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Re: serious problem with users FM 9

2009-11-26 Thread Scott Prentice

If you import your stub file into the structapps.fm file in the main  
FM install dir rather than the structapps file in the user appdata  
area it should be available to all users on a compter. With FM9 there  
are two structapps files.

...scott

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On Nov 26, 2009, at 4:47 AM, w...@idtp.eu wrote:

 Well, we've made a construct where the customized struct apps are
 stored on a shared network drive and these are imported as text inset
 in the default struct apps file. So maintenance on these apps is not a
 problem.

 Only when we made a new FrameMaker install and modified the struct
 apps file for this (imported the text insets) the new apps were not
 available for new users.


 -- 
 Vriendelijke groet,

 Wim Hooghwinkel

 Adobe Certified Expert (ACE) in FrameMaker

 iDTP

 International DTP and Documentation Consultancy

 tel. +31652036811
 i...@idtp.eu
 www.idtp.eu



 Citeren Yves Barbion yves.barb...@gmail.com:

 Hi Wim

 Indeed, this is a (maintenance) problem. I've been looking in the FM
 Preferences and in the Help too whether this can be changed, but I  
 haven't
 found anything yet.

 Maybe you could try this workaround: import your struct app as a  
 text inset
 in the user's struct app. If you do so, you may have to change or  
 replace
 some variables (for example $STRUCTDIR) as well. And you may have  
 to do this
 for each user.

 Good luck.


 --
 Yves Barbion
 www.scripto.nu



 On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp  
 w...@idtp.euwrote:

 Hi,



 Does any of you recognise this: for a client I created a FM app  
 (FM9) and
 modified the struct apps file for this. Now an employee logs in on  
 the same
 computer but with a different user name - and the modified struct  
 aps is
 not
 found. Apparently it has been stored in the local user folder of  
 the person
 who logged in when we modified the struct apps file. So it seems  
 that
 anytime someone makes a change (normally only the admin of course)  
 the
 central struct apps file must be replaced manually. Is there no  
 other
 option
 for this - like deactivating the local struct apps file in the  
 user folder?



 How does FM read the struct apps - does it first read the struct  
 apps file
 in the FM Installation folder and then the one in the user folder  
 and what
 happens with conflicting settings?



 Thanks,



 Kind regards, vriendelijke groet,

 Wim Hooghwinkel

 iDTP - Technical Communication Consultant

 Adobe Certified Expert (ACE) in FrameMaker

 tel. +31652036811
 Skype wimhooghwinkel
 Twitter @idtp @NLDITA
 mailto:i...@idtp.eu i...@idtp.eu
 www.idtp.eu

 FrameMaker support: framema...@idtp.eu



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serious problem with users FM 9

2009-11-26 Thread Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp

Hi,



Does any of you recognise this: for a client I created a FM app (FM9) and
modified the struct apps file for this. Now an employee logs in on the same
computer but with a different user name - and the modified struct aps is not
found. Apparently it has been stored in the local user folder of the person
who logged in when we modified the struct apps file. So it seems that
anytime someone makes a change (normally only the admin of course) the
central struct apps file must be replaced manually. Is there no other option
for this - like deactivating the local struct apps file in the user folder?



How does FM read the struct apps - does it first read the struct apps file
in the FM Installation folder and then the one in the user folder and what
happens with conflicting settings?



Thanks,



Kind regards, vriendelijke groet,

Wim Hooghwinkel

iDTP - Technical Communication Consultant

Adobe Certified Expert (ACE) in FrameMaker

tel. +31652036811
Skype wimhooghwinkel
Twitter @idtp @NLDITA
  info at idtp.eu 
www.idtp.eu

FrameMaker support: framemaker at idtp.eu

serious problem with users FM 9

2009-11-26 Thread Yves Barbion

Hi Wim

Indeed, this is a (maintenance) problem. I've been looking in the FM
Preferences and in the Help too whether this can be changed, but I haven't
found anything yet.

Maybe you could try this workaround: import your struct app as a text inset
in the user's struct app. If you do so, you may have to change or replace
some variables (for example $STRUCTDIR) as well. And you may have to do this
for each user.

Good luck.


-- 
Yves Barbion
www.scripto.nu



On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
>
> Does any of you recognise this: for a client I created a FM app (FM9) and
> modified the struct apps file for this. Now an employee logs in on the same
> computer but with a different user name - and the modified struct aps is
> not
> found. Apparently it has been stored in the local user folder of the person
> who logged in when we modified the struct apps file. So it seems that
> anytime someone makes a change (normally only the admin of course) the
> central struct apps file must be replaced manually. Is there no other
> option
> for this - like deactivating the local struct apps file in the user folder?
>
>
>
> How does FM read the struct apps - does it first read the struct apps file
> in the FM Installation folder and then the one in the user folder and what
> happens with conflicting settings?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Kind regards, vriendelijke groet,
>
> Wim Hooghwinkel
>
> iDTP - Technical Communication Consultant
>
> Adobe Certified Expert (ACE) in FrameMaker
>
> tel. +31652036811
> Skype wimhooghwinkel
> Twitter @idtp @NLDITA
>   info at idtp.eu
> www.idtp.eu
>
> FrameMaker support: framemaker at idtp.eu
>
>
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serious problem with users FM 9

2009-11-26 Thread w...@idtp.eu

Well, we've made a construct where the customized struct apps are  
stored on a shared network drive and these are imported as text inset  
in the default struct apps file. So maintenance on these apps is not a  
problem.

Only when we made a new FrameMaker install and modified the struct  
apps file for this (imported the text insets) the new apps were not  
available for new users.


-- 
Vriendelijke groet,

Wim Hooghwinkel

Adobe Certified Expert (ACE) in FrameMaker

iDTP

International DTP and Documentation Consultancy

tel. +31652036811
info at idtp.eu
www.idtp.eu



Citeren Yves Barbion :

> Hi Wim
>
> Indeed, this is a (maintenance) problem. I've been looking in the FM
> Preferences and in the Help too whether this can be changed, but I haven't
> found anything yet.
>
> Maybe you could try this workaround: import your struct app as a text inset
> in the user's struct app. If you do so, you may have to change or replace
> some variables (for example $STRUCTDIR) as well. And you may have to do this
> for each user.
>
> Good luck.
>
>
> --
> Yves Barbion
> www.scripto.nu
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp  idtp.eu>wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>>
>> Does any of you recognise this: for a client I created a FM app (FM9) and
>> modified the struct apps file for this. Now an employee logs in on the same
>> computer but with a different user name - and the modified struct aps is
>> not
>> found. Apparently it has been stored in the local user folder of the person
>> who logged in when we modified the struct apps file. So it seems that
>> anytime someone makes a change (normally only the admin of course) the
>> central struct apps file must be replaced manually. Is there no other
>> option
>> for this - like deactivating the local struct apps file in the user folder?
>>
>>
>>
>> How does FM read the struct apps - does it first read the struct apps file
>> in the FM Installation folder and then the one in the user folder and what
>> happens with conflicting settings?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind regards, vriendelijke groet,
>>
>> Wim Hooghwinkel
>>
>> iDTP - Technical Communication Consultant
>>
>> Adobe Certified Expert (ACE) in FrameMaker
>>
>> tel. +31652036811
>> Skype wimhooghwinkel
>> Twitter @idtp @NLDITA
>>   info at idtp.eu
>> www.idtp.eu
>>
>> FrameMaker support: framemaker at idtp.eu
>>
>>
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serious problem with users FM 9

2009-11-26 Thread Scott Prentice

If you import your stub file into the structapps.fm file in the main  
FM install dir rather than the structapps file in the user appdata  
area it should be available to all users on a compter. With FM9 there  
are two structapps files.

...scott

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 26, 2009, at 4:47 AM, wim at idtp.eu wrote:

> Well, we've made a construct where the customized struct apps are
> stored on a shared network drive and these are imported as text inset
> in the default struct apps file. So maintenance on these apps is not a
> problem.
>
> Only when we made a new FrameMaker install and modified the struct
> apps file for this (imported the text insets) the new apps were not
> available for new users.
>
>
> -- 
> Vriendelijke groet,
>
> Wim Hooghwinkel
>
> Adobe Certified Expert (ACE) in FrameMaker
>
> iDTP
>
> International DTP and Documentation Consultancy
>
> tel. +31652036811
> info at idtp.eu
> www.idtp.eu
>
>
>
> Citeren Yves Barbion :
>
>> Hi Wim
>>
>> Indeed, this is a (maintenance) problem. I've been looking in the FM
>> Preferences and in the Help too whether this can be changed, but I  
>> haven't
>> found anything yet.
>>
>> Maybe you could try this workaround: import your struct app as a  
>> text inset
>> in the user's struct app. If you do so, you may have to change or  
>> replace
>> some variables (for example $STRUCTDIR) as well. And you may have  
>> to do this
>> for each user.
>>
>> Good luck.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Yves Barbion
>> www.scripto.nu
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 11:41 AM, Wim Hooghwinkel - idtp  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Does any of you recognise this: for a client I created a FM app  
>>> (FM9) and
>>> modified the struct apps file for this. Now an employee logs in on  
>>> the same
>>> computer but with a different user name - and the modified struct  
>>> aps is
>>> not
>>> found. Apparently it has been stored in the local user folder of  
>>> the person
>>> who logged in when we modified the struct apps file. So it seems  
>>> that
>>> anytime someone makes a change (normally only the admin of course)  
>>> the
>>> central struct apps file must be replaced manually. Is there no  
>>> other
>>> option
>>> for this - like deactivating the local struct apps file in the  
>>> user folder?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> How does FM read the struct apps - does it first read the struct  
>>> apps file
>>> in the FM Installation folder and then the one in the user folder  
>>> and what
>>> happens with conflicting settings?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Kind regards, vriendelijke groet,
>>>
>>> Wim Hooghwinkel
>>>
>>> iDTP - Technical Communication Consultant
>>>
>>> Adobe Certified Expert (ACE) in FrameMaker
>>>
>>> tel. +31652036811
>>> Skype wimhooghwinkel
>>> Twitter @idtp @NLDITA
>>>  info at idtp.eu
>>> www.idtp.eu
>>>
>>> FrameMaker support: framemaker at idtp.eu
>>>
>>>
>>>
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