[Framework-Team] FWT Meeting Minutes – Sept 7, 2010

2010-09-20 Thread Eric Steele
Sorry for the delay getting these out. 

• #10280 – Allow overriding the title tag on a per-template basis
• How common of a need is this?
• Using the viewlet instead allows customization / view
• Decision: Declined
• #10964 – Asynchronously fetch suggestions for 404 Not Found Page
• Do we still want to consider this?
• Laurence hasn't had time to do benchmarks
• Pass it along to implementation stage, ask for 
benchmarks as a deliverable?
• Provide ability to disable suggestions, allow site 
admins to decide
• Decision: Declined
• #11003 – Content governance metadata
• Is this a common need?
• Sounds useful, but are people actually going to use this?
• Should be developed as an add-on
• Inappropriate to change the behavior of existing fields 
(expiration date) at this point
• Decision: Accepted
• #11013 – ARIA Landmark Roles for accessibility
• Looks extremely low-risk
• Previous experience of this resulting in JAWS getting 
confused with ARIA content. Will need testing
• Make changes in markup, not Javascript. Make it opt-in. 
• Will XDV have problems? Parser ignores namespaces. 
• Decision: Accepted
• #11016 – Configurable breadcrumbs
• Like the idea, are there really no risks?
• Would like to see this as an add-on
• Too much configurability.
• Decision: Declined
• #11017 – Tags MultiSelectionWidget w/scrollbar  checkboxes
• No jQuery UI.
• Concept is good enough, no need to provide a proof-of-concept.
• Decision: Accepted
• #11021 – Simple theming customizations through the plone interface
• plone.app.themeeditor looks to be the way forward in this 
area of site customization
• Like the idea of having text areas for editing css/js, but 
not as a proxy for dtml documents.
• Render the two directly instead of proxying.
• Implement as an add-on, resubmit for 4.2
• Decision: Declined
• #11025 – Content Batch Editing
• Keep as an add-on for now
• Some batch editing already included: name, id, workflow, 
expiration.
• Decision: Declined
• #11065 – Ship with plone.app.caching
• Immediate consensus
• Decision: Accepted

Recording available at 
http://apps.calliflower.com/recording/download/8320?rec_key=3441aceb551f83efd252ed71ef055ed43e234bfa
Next meeting will be Sept 21, 2010.

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Re: [Framework-Team] FWT Meeting Minutes – Sept 7, 2010

2010-09-20 Thread David Glick
 On 9/20/10 8:56 AM, Eric Steele wrote:
 Sorry for the delay getting these out. 

   • #10280 – Allow overriding the title tag on a per-template basis
   • How common of a need is this?
   • Using the viewlet instead allows customization / view
   • Decision: Declined
I'm sad to see this decision. Filling a slot is much easier than
registering a new viewlet, works for non-view-based templates too, and
seems low-risk to me. Have you ever tried to explain to someone how to
change the title?
   • #11021 – Simple theming customizations through the plone interface
   • plone.app.themeeditor looks to be the way forward in this 
 area of site customization
   • Like the idea of having text areas for editing css/js, but 
 not as a proxy for dtml documents.
   • Render the two directly instead of proxying.
   • Implement as an add-on, resubmit for 4.2
   • Decision: Declined
We discussed this already on IRC, but just for the record: I don't think
either David Bain or I have much time to put into plone.app.themeeditor
on an ongoing basis, so we shouldn't let a hope for that to mature
prevent inclusion of something that is less ambitious but still a useful
improvement, IMHO.

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Re: [Framework-Team] [Plone-cvs] r40085 - buildouts/plone-coredev/branches/4.1/plips

2010-09-20 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 9/20/10 17:58 , Rob Gietema wrote:
 Author: robgietema
 Date: Mon Sep 20 15:58:35 2010
 New Revision: 40085

 Added:
 buildouts/plone-coredev/branches/4.1/plips/plip10778-review-robgietema.txt
 Log:
 Added review for PLIP10778.

 Added: 
 buildouts/plone-coredev/branches/4.1/plips/plip10778-review-robgietema.txt
 ==
 --- (empty file)
 +++ 
 buildouts/plone-coredev/branches/4.1/plips/plip10778-review-robgietema.txt
 Mon Sep 20 15:58:35 2010
 @@ -0,0 +1,55 @@
 +PLIP 10778: Standalone UUID implementation
 +==
...
 +- The test code is in testing.py and tests.py, I prefer this being in a tests
 +  folder to not mess up the package root.

testing.py is something else: it contains utility code for writing 
tests. It does not contain tests itself. This is a common pattern.

Wichert.
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