Re: [Framework-Team] Re: [Zope-dev] MailHost Improvements

2009-08-14 Thread Jens Vagelpohl

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On Aug 14, 2009, at 06:22 , Alec Mitchell wrote:


It would be very helpful to have these changes in Zope 2.12;
otherwise, Plone 4.0 will be stuck with our unmaintained
SecureMailHost product for yet another release in order to provide
equivalent functionality.  Moving to a standard Zope MailHost would be
a big benefit for Plone, and all Zope users will benefit from the
ability to easily send properly formed non-ASCII messages.


Andreas may be off on vacation already.

IMHO this is a great example where code developed for Plone is pushed  
to the _correct_ place in the stack to benefit everyone.


jens


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Re: [Framework-Team] Re: MailHost Improvements

2009-08-15 Thread Jens Vagelpohl

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On Aug 15, 2009, at 19:03 , Alec Mitchell wrote:

There's one additional significant change to Zope behavior here that  
I forgot to mention.  The current implementation sets the python  
default email transfer and header encoding for 'utf-8' messages to  
'quoted-printable', it normally defaults to 'base64'.  This is  
essentially a cosmetic change and makes reading and debugging email  
messages much more straightforward.  It also makes encoded mail less  
likely to be caught by SPAM filters (some of which dislike base64  
mail on principle).


At present this change causes one test in CMFDefault to fail, which  
I'm happy to fix.  But it's also not a problem to just remove the  
line that sets the new 'utf-8' encoding, though I think it dpes have  
some important advantages.


I'm not an expert, but if quoted-printable is better practice then  
it should be used and the CMF test should be changed accordingly.


jens



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Re: [Framework-Team] [Plone-developers] Upcoming Plone 4.0 releases

2010-05-27 Thread Jens Vagelpohl
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On 5/27/10 10:03 , Raphael Ritz wrote:
 David Glick wrote:
 [..]
 If I recall, the main risks are that the migration may take a long 
 time, and that the admin may not have properly configured blob-storage 
 in their buildout.  The migration itself is pretty well-tested, at 
 least under Plone 3 -- Groundwire has migrated dozens of sites to use 
 blobs.  There may be some other concern I am forgetting?
 
 The only other concern I recall is the potential breakage
 of backup routines.
 If someone just rsyncs/copies Data.fs via cron (or the like)
 it will miss the binary data after the upgrade.

As someone who wears two hats (developer and admin) I can see both
sides. However, my admin side is always upset about potentially unknown
upgrade consequences.

As a compromise I would suggest an upgrade experience where the user
gets something pushed into their face about admin changes that may need
to happen before they push the button. As long as people are made *very*
aware of the change *and* they have the opportunity to stop the upgrade
at that moment to prepare their systems it would be OK.

jens

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