Re: [Framework-Team] Re: What is Plone 3.3?

2008-10-14 Thread whit
Framework-Team@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/framework-team -- = david whit morriss opengeo -- http://opengeo.org If you don't know where you are, you don't know anything at all Dr. Edgar Spencer, Ph.D., 1995

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: availability over the next 5 months

2008-07-02 Thread whit
I should probably report that I checked out awhile ago and have been doing next to no plone work (not much free time to devote to code outside of work, and not doing plone at work currently). As one of my pet peeves when I was doing plone work was folks who abandoned their children, so I'd like

Re: [Framework-Team] Is this thing on?

2007-11-20 Thread whit
___ Framework-Team mailing list Framework-Team@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/framework-team -- | david whit morriss | | contact :: http://public.xdi.org/=whit If you don't know where you are, you don't know anything at all Dr. Edgar

Re: [Framework-Team] New team

2007-10-29 Thread whit
Plone Development`, a book for developers who want to work with Plone. See http://martinaspeli.net/plone-book ___ Framework-Team mailing list Framework-Team@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/framework-team -- | david whit

Re: [Framework-Team] post-3.0: tags? branches?

2007-08-14 Thread whit
-team -- | david whit morriss | | contact :: http://public.xdi.org/=whit If you don't know where you are, you don't know anything at all Dr. Edgar Spencer, Ph.D., 1995 I like to write code like other ppl like to tune their cars or 10kW hifi equipment... Christian Heimes, 2004

[Framework-Team] Re: [Plone-developers] wicked stuff

2007-07-25 Thread whit
got a dual pattern filtering working locally yesterday. will release for rc2. -w -- -- d. whit morriss -- - senior engineer, opencore - - http://www.openplans.org - - m: 415-710-8975 - If you don't know where you are, you don't know anything at all Dr. Edgar Spencer

[Framework-Team] Re: [Plone-developers] wicked stuff

2007-07-18 Thread whit
Martijn Pieters wrote: On 7/17/07, whit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martijn Pieters wrote: def chunks(self): chunks = super(WickedFilter, self).chunks # every 2nd entry is the parens group, so filter out by # grabbing every 1st and 3rd firsts

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: wicked stuff

2007-07-16 Thread whit
for formatting output). On mac, with lxml, I find I have to set the following to avoid errors with recent lxml (my libxml is installed in fink):: export DYLD_LIBRARY_PATH=/sw/lib -w -- -- d. whit morriss -- - senior engineer, opencore - - http://www.openplans.org - - m: 415-710-8975

[Framework-Team] Re: wicked stuff

2007-07-16 Thread whit
wanted either/or behavior, they could disable them and use the old subscribers. I'll take a look at this tomorrow. -w -- -- d. whit morriss -- - senior engineer, opencore - - http://www.openplans.org - - m: 415-710-8975 - If you don't know where you are, you don't know

[Framework-Team] wicked stuff

2007-07-10 Thread whit
Martin Aspeli wrote: Hi Whit, In the interest of getting releases out ... do you have any comment on https://dev.plone.org/plone/ticket/6284? Martin a couple(nouri looked at this a while a back and I've been playing with it yesterday and today). Technical comments:: I hacked together

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: wicked stuff

2007-07-10 Thread whit
ol'pf. -w -- -- d. whit morriss -- - senior engineer, opencore - - http://www.openplans.org - - m: 415-710-8975 - If you don't know where you are, you don't know anything at all Dr. Edgar Spencer, Ph.D., 1995 begin:vcard fn:D

Re: [Framework-Team] plone.theme - one more package for Plone 3?

2007-05-21 Thread whit
and ploneout, if no-one objects to it going in at this (admittedly late) stage. Martin I would say this point you are at wiggy's mercy. -w -- -- d. whit morriss -- - senior engineer, opencore - - http://www.openplans.org - - m: 415-710-8975 - If you don't know where you are, you

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: five.intid compatible with five.localsitemanager

2007-04-13 Thread whit
sure maybe? since I own five.intid, I take this opportunity to bitch that I hate viewcvs, the collective has trac and normal http browsing and often is faster than zope's repository and is not plone specific. And having to use ssh + svn sucks for creating developer bundles or doing developer

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: five.intid compatible with five.localsitemanager

2007-04-13 Thread whit
Martijn Faassen wrote: whit wrote: [snip] I take this opportunity to bitch that I hate viewcvs, the collective has trac and normal http browsing and often is faster than zope's repository and is not plone specific. And having to use ssh + svn sucks for creating developer bundles or doing

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: five.intid compatible with five.localsitemanager

2007-04-13 Thread whit
I'm guessing he want to install the intid utility with full lsm capabilities. -w -- -- d. whit morriss -- - senior engineer, opencore - - http://www.openplans.org - - m: 415-710-8975 - If you don't know where you are, you don't know anything at all Dr. Edgar Spencer

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: The big 3.0 ;)

2007-04-03 Thread whit
about it). might have time this weekend to do it. an kss inline of the add item page would be by far the best solution overall(still need above as a fallback). -w -- -- d. whit morriss -- - senior engineer, opencore - - http://www.openplans.org - - m: 415-710-8975

[Framework-Team] The big 3.0 ;)

2007-03-28 Thread whit
technology as wrong by decree and advocating a return to the bonny days of 1999. long live frames! -w -- -- d. whit morriss -- - senior engineer, opencore - - http://www.openplans.org - - m: 415-710-8975 - If you don't know where you are, you don't know anything at all Dr

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: The big 3.0 ;)

2007-03-28 Thread whit
Martin Aspeli wrote: whit wrote: re: zmi. lets talk about being painfully modal. The fact we are having this conversation seems to indicate a different and wider issue to me. Without wanting to get into an abstract and easy-to-talk-past-each-other discussion, I think you're right

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: The big 3.0 ;)

2007-03-23 Thread whit
Martin Aspeli wrote: whit wrote: What's everyone else's excuse? :-) explosive diarrhea. Tiran once coded in the toilet at a sprint, so that won't do, Whit. I didn't want to vomit on my keyboard. -w -- -- d. whit morriss -- - senior engineer, opencore - - http

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: beta1 release timing

2007-03-08 Thread whit
to utilize them. -w -- -- d. whit morriss -- - senior engineer, opencore - - http://www.openplans.org - - m: 415-710-8975 - If you don't know where you are, you don't know anything at all Dr. Edgar Spencer, Ph.D., 1995

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: branching moment

2007-02-26 Thread whit
Alec Mitchell wrote: I'm +1 for keeping 3.0 on trunk until the RC phase at least. People wanting to do feature development post-freeze can do so on branches. sounds reasonable to me. speaking of, it's about time for the framework team to pass the torch isn't it? -w -- -- d. whit

[Framework-Team] latest wicked

2007-02-25 Thread whit
http://cheeseshop.python.org/pypi?:action=displayname=wickedversion=1.1.1 fixed the on-save/registration issue limi observed -w -- -- d. whit morriss -- - senior engineer, opencore - - http://www.openplans.org - - m: 415-710-8975 - If you don't know where you are, you

[Framework-Team] Re: ploneenv - Or how using workingenv for a common Zope2 project might look like ;-)

2007-02-14 Thread whit
some of the build is really nice(either through options on a script or multiple scripts). It also eliminates a bit of the fear factor that comes from installing a monolith. -w -- -- d. whit morriss -- - senior engineer, opencore - - http://www.openplans.org - - m: 415-710-8975

Re: [Framework-Team] wicked - lxml dependency?

2007-02-13 Thread whit
). iirc, any working version of libxml2 should work(both for the test and lxml, though lxml needs to be rather current). lxml or libxml is not needed for any of wicked's functionality. -w -- -- d. whit morriss -- - senior engineer, opencore - - http://www.openplans.org - - m: 415

Re: [Framework-Team] Cleaning up the bundles a bit, getting rid of getCVS.sh

2007-02-01 Thread whit
it back if/when they ever end up in a public SVN repository. --Alexander Limi · http://limi.net ___ Framework-Team mailing list Framework-Team@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/framework-team -- -- d. whit morriss

Re: [Framework-Team] Plip : indexing files

2007-01-29 Thread whit
heard of it but never tried it) wicked.fieldevent allows you to register subscribers for fieldstorage events. These subscribers could be asyncronous(maybe just some instructions that clockserver could handle later). I would try this first. -w -- -- d. whit morriss -- - senior

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: wicked merged

2007-01-27 Thread whit
Martin Aspeli wrote: Alexander Limi wrote: What's the story behind the AdvancedQuery dependency? (Or did I misunderstand?) Wicked depends on AQ, and though whit forgot to update the scripts to pull it down, it's there now so you should get it. Martin sorry about that one.forgot

[Framework-Team] Re: five.intid and object_implements index in Plone 3

2007-01-10 Thread whit
Martin Aspeli wrote: Hi guys, I'm toying with the idea of introducing five.intid as a dependency for Plone 3. Whit is responsible for this creation, so I'd like this input as well, but from discussions with him it seems quite useful. - It can be combined with Zope 3's catalog implementation

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: five.intid and object_implements index in Plone 3

2007-01-10 Thread whit
Martin Aspeli wrote: - Add the intid from five.intid as an index and metadata. This allows cross-referencing between the two. This seems valuable. It already bridges the annoying gap where we don't currently add UID to the standard catalog as an index or metadata. We could possibly add a

[Framework-Team] Re: five.intid and object_implements index in Plone 3

2007-01-10 Thread whit
Martin Aspeli wrote: Hi Whit, On 1/10/07, whit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin Aspeli wrote: Hi guys, I'm toying with the idea of introducing five.intid as a dependency for Plone 3. Whit is responsible for this creation, so I'd like this input as well, but from discussions with him

[Framework-Team] Re: wicked integration w/ plone 3

2007-01-07 Thread whit
I should ammend previous email to say... I see a couple broken tests in plone, but they don't appear to have anything to do with wicked on the surface. -w ___ Framework-Team mailing list Framework-Team@lists.plone.org

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: wicked integration w/ plone 3

2007-01-07 Thread whit
Alexander Limi wrote: On Sun, 07 Jan 2007 20:23:13 -0800, whit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: alright, I shuffled around the registrations so Document, Event, and NewItem can be registered individually. I scratched the entry point stuff since we really don't have an egg story yet(and entry points

Re: [Framework-Team] wicked integration w/ plone 3

2007-01-05 Thread whit
Martin Aspeli wrote: Whit, You rock. :) thanks! :) Will skim through the code today, but I'm very optimistic that we should merge during the weekend. I don't think having TTW configuration for which *fields* should get the Wicked treatment makes much sense (too low level). TTW would

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: wicked integration w/ plone 3

2007-01-05 Thread whit
Raphael Ritz wrote: Martin Aspeli schrieb: [..] I don't think having TTW configuration for which *fields* should get the Wicked treatment makes much sense (too low level). Agreed. But in the long run it might very well make sense. I like for instance the 'textfilter' approach and I could

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: wicked integration w/ plone 3

2007-01-05 Thread whit
snip Interesting idea. The problem is possibly that people may not know the full name of the content type (this is a vocabulary thing rather than a free text thing), but certainly supporting this optionally would be cool. I'd assume it wouldn't even be that hard to add (possibly at a later

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: wicked integration w/ plone 3

2007-01-05 Thread whit
Alexander Limi wrote: On Fri, 05 Jan 2007 02:33:54 -0800, Martin Aspeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think having TTW configuration for which *fields* should get the Wicked treatment makes much sense (too low level). Having a way to turn the behaviour on/off and possibly change the syntax

Re: [Board-public] Re: [Framework-Team] Re: release schedule changes

2006-12-29 Thread whit
snip / Personally, I never liked the separation of infrastructure/UI-focused releases, and it was also something that was never voted on or accepted as the way to go — it was just suggested. But if there is an alternating schedule, 3.0 is definitely the UI release, not the infrastructure

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP review overview

2006-12-28 Thread whit
172 should be ready for merging in a few days. -w Wichert Akkerman wrote: I have gone over all the current reviews and divided them into three sections: PLIPs ready for merging, PLIPs which need more work and not yet reviewed PLIPs. Here we go: PLIPs ready for merging

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: Error starting 3.0 bundle

2006-10-22 Thread whit
Daniel Nouri wrote: whit wrote: ugh... could we devote a little time to packaging love here? maybe at the conference? This is tipping my suckometer. None of this is too fancy, but I think we've exceeded the utility of our bundle system and should fix our dev deploy story. some notes

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: Error starting 3.0 bundle

2006-10-22 Thread whit
Daniel Nouri wrote: whit wrote: You could call it temporary in that Zope will hopefully get better at development eggs and therefore render a weaved-together bundle like this obsolete (instead, you'd have a bundle with eggs and then you'd easy_install each one). To be honest, I find

[Framework-Team] Re: PLIP145 Locking - Review

2006-10-04 Thread whit
Martin Aspeli wrote: Hi Raphael, While Sidnei is right in principle I again want to stress that the hardest part here is to get some event triggered the moment the user starts to work on something. With external edit its easy, with a staging scenario its easy (as yuo do an explicit check out)

[Framework-Team] five.intid

2006-10-03 Thread whit
I'm assuming not only nouri might be interested in this... after a bit of tickling, I got a acquisition friendly version of zope.app.intid working and checked in. it's ready to have it's tires kicked:: https://svn.plone.org/svn/collective/five.intid/trunk as part of the package, it also

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: [PLIP 172 Wicked] Review notes

2006-09-27 Thread whit
those links up-to-date when they move. It's easy to use and quite innovative in that it integrates so seamlessly into Plone. Big props to Whit for turning my original late-night ramblings and thoughts about how wikis in Plone should work into a slick wiki implementation for Plone. Sometimes

Re: [Framework-Team] [PLIP 149 Markup] - Review notes

2006-09-23 Thread whit
o It's unclear to me whether/how this corresponds to the work on Wicked should be orthogonal to wicked (just as stx, reST, html etc is). wicked is not format sensitive(another reason why it keeps it's syntactical scope limited). speaking of wicked, got it all running with the plone-3.0

Re: [Framework-Team] Now what do we do?

2006-08-29 Thread whit
Our process could be improved. we reviewed a few bundles a week over the course of a few weeks. Basically, I or Alan would announce what bundles we were looking at and when the next phone call would be by email. Since the process for each bundles was not specifically owned by anyone, the

Re: [Framework-Team] Here a wiggy, there a wiggy

2006-08-15 Thread whit
. The FWT serves as an instrument to aid the RM, a channel to enforce process, a buffer against organic groupthink decision making. The process of review is the more important part, and as long as there are people with open ears who care voting, all is well. -w -- | david whit morriss

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: Release roadmap for 3.0

2006-05-11 Thread whit
the feature choices and therefore has a 6-12month drop on the release. so...send a letter to your local board member. rocky has requested an end to philosophizing on this subject so I will respectfully end any comment hitherto. -w -- | david whit morriss | | contact :: http://public.xdi.org/=whit

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: Release roadmap for 3.0

2006-05-11 Thread whit
whit morriss | | contact :: http://public.xdi.org/=whit If you don't know where you are, you don't know anything at all Dr. Edgar Spencer, Ph.D., 1995 I like to write code like other ppl like to tune their cars or 10kW hifi equipment

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: Release roadmap for 3.0

2006-05-10 Thread whit
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[Framework-Team] upcoming cms sprint

2006-02-18 Thread whit
with stephan and roger in Egg). I believe russ feriday is going to try to be there too. for those of you without deep z3 experience, this is a fast and easy way to get it. and this sprint also has the potential to be very important in the general course of CMS in the zope world. -w -- | david whit