Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP 238: Disable inline editing by default

2008-10-29 Thread Tom Lazar
On Oct 28, 2008, at 10:20 PM, Danny Bloemendaal wrote: Well, I am all in favor of having the UI fixed. Perhaps some of the kss boys can do this. You need to have a hover event that shows a button next to the widget (button can styles using css into a pencil or something) and the click

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP 238: Disable inline editing by default

2008-10-29 Thread Danny Bloemendaal
On 29 okt 2008, at 10:05, Tom Lazar wrote: On Oct 28, 2008, at 10:20 PM, Danny Bloemendaal wrote: Well, I am all in favor of having the UI fixed. Perhaps some of the kss boys can do this. You need to have a hover event that shows a button next to the widget (button can styles using css into

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP 238: Disable inline editing by default

2008-10-28 Thread Raphael Ritz
Wichert Akkerman wrote: I want to propose PLIP 238: Disable inline editing by default Motivation -- I suspect that by now most of us have realized that the current inline editing behaviour in Plone 3 is not very practical. It has two main problems: * it is very easily triggered by

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP 238: Disable inline editing by default

2008-10-28 Thread Alec Mitchell
Is it really that much work to fix the ui for starting an edit? I think there are a lot of people who like this feature, but are frustrated by the UI. Disabling it does nothing to fix that though, it's just another regression to work around what many consider a real UI bug. Alec On Tue, Oct

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP 238: Disable inline editing by default

2008-10-28 Thread Alan Runyan
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Alec Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it really that much work to fix the ui for starting an edit? I think there are a lot of people who like this feature, but are frustrated by the UI. Disabling it does nothing to fix that though, it's just another

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP 238: Disable inline editing by default

2008-10-28 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Alan Runyan wrote: On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 10:46 AM, Alec Mitchell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it really that much work to fix the ui for starting an edit? I think there are a lot of people who like this feature, but are frustrated by the UI. Disabling it does nothing to fix

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP 238: Disable inline editing by default

2008-10-26 Thread Martijn Pieters
On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 22:15, Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I want to propose PLIP 238: Disable inline editing by default Although we have a concensus to not remove, change or move major pieces of the UI, the inline editing feature is currently so confusing that I certainly feel

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP 238: Disable inline editing by default

2008-10-10 Thread Graham Perrin
On 10 Oct 2008, at 04:58, Danny Bloemendaal responded to Wichert's e-mail proposing http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/ 238: Proposal - Current Plone releases have a simple toggle to enable or disable inline editing. I propose that we change the default for newly created

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP 238: Disable inline editing by default

2008-10-09 Thread Danny Bloemendaal
On 27 sep 2008, at 16:15, Wichert Akkerman wrote: I want to propose PLIP 238: Disable inline editing by default Motivation -- I suspect that by now most of us have realized that the current inline editing behaviour in Plone 3 is not very practical. It has two main problems: * it

[Framework-Team] PLIP 238: Disable inline editing by default

2008-09-27 Thread Wichert Akkerman
I want to propose PLIP 238: Disable inline editing by default Motivation -- I suspect that by now most of us have realized that the current inline editing behaviour in Plone 3 is not very practical. It has two main problems: * it is very easily triggered by default, which causes unwanted