Re: [Plone-developers] [Framework-Team] Re: Plone 4 Framework Team Selection List

2008-12-18 Thread Tom Lazar
On 18.12.2008, at 11:21, Martin Aspeli wrote: In particular, one of the things we'd discussed and would like to see more of, is a consultative approach where the framework team reviewer asks for review from people outside the team. Anyone who is motivated to contribute opinions will be heartily

Re: [Plone-developers] [Framework-Team] Re: Plone 4 Framework Team Selection List

2008-12-18 Thread Tom Lazar
On 18.12.2008, at 11:34, Wichert Akkerman wrote: [...] things like user interface and documentation should be a full part of the process, absolutely and therefore should be reflected in the membership of the group which makes decisions based on those factors. i think that conclusion is

Re: [Plone-developers] [Framework-Team] Re: Plone 4 Framework Team Selection List

2008-12-18 Thread Wichert Akkerman
On 12/18/08 11:43 AM, Tom Lazar wrote: and therefore should be reflected in the membership of the group which makes decisions based on those factors. i think that conclusion is the only part where we disagree. can we agree at least on that? ;-) Not without a way to guarantee that user

Fwd: [Plone-developers] [Framework-Team] Re: Plone 4 Framework Team Selection List

2008-12-18 Thread Matthew Wilkes
On 18 Dec 2008, at 10:34, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Collecting external input and outside reviews is a nice idea, but things like user interface and documentation should be a full part of the process, and therefore should be reflected in the membership of the group which makes decisions based

Re: [Plone-developers] [Framework-Team] Re: Plone 4 Framework Team Selection List

2008-12-18 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Tom Lazar wrote: this is a fundamental change in how the framework team will operate from now on. we're no longer just a group of individuals who quietly need to make some sense of PLIPs and their implementation on their own but more of a clearing house. So, do I understand

Re: [Plone-developers] [Framework-Team] Re: Plone 4 Framework Team Selection List

2008-12-18 Thread Raphael Ritz
Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Tom Lazar wrote: this is a fundamental change in how the framework team will operate from now on. we're no longer just a group of individuals who quietly need to make some sense of PLIPs and their implementation on their own but more of a clearing

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: Plone 4 Framework Team Selection List

2008-12-16 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Dec 16, 2008, at 6:52 PM, Alexander Limi wrote: On Tue, 16 Dec 2008 09:37:50 -0800, Steve McMahon st...@dcn.org wrote: The Plone 4 Framework Team has been selected. Congratulations to: Matthew Wilkes, David Glick, Calvin Hendryx-Parker, Laurence Rowe, Martijn Pieters, Erik Rose, and Ross