Re: [Framework-Team] [PLIP 125 Link Integrity] - Review notes, part I

2006-09-15 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Sep 15, 2006, at 1:00 AM, Martin Aspeli wrote: Hi guys, hi, first of all, thanks for the review, martin. imho it's very attentive as you've already mentioned pretty much all of the little things and side-notes i was worried about yourself -- i'm impressed (once more)! :) anyway,

Re: [Framework-Team] LinkIntegrity merge

2006-12-12 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Dec 12, 2006, at 2:11 AM, Martin Aspeli wrote: Hi guys, hi, I think LinkIntegrity is nearly ready for merging. Before doing so, I have a few caveats, and I'd like to have someone else take a look over the code. first of all, thanks for your review... :) apart from that i have a

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: Login redirect in 3.0?

2006-12-27 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Dec 27, 2006, at 4:49 PM, Martin Aspeli wrote: Alexander Limi wrote: Yup, /@@login wouldn't be any easier to remember than /login_form - so either /login or /admin. I'm partial to the latter, since it makes sense in more languages (most western languages have the word admin or

suggestion for central place to import tool interfaces from (was: Re: [Framework-Team] Effects of the tools-as-utilities branch)

2007-03-09 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Mar 7, 2007, at 10:57 PM, Martin Aspeli wrote: Hi guys, hi, I believe Jens merged, and we now have some interesting side- effects... first of all i'd like to say i agree with martin that it's great this branch is merged so we can finally start using `getUtility()`. however, having

[Framework-Team] Re: suggestion for central place to import tool interfaces from

2007-03-12 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Mar 11, 2007, at 7:20 AM, Martin Aspeli wrote: Hi Andreas, hi martin, i thought you're on vacation? :) while a) should be relatively easy to fix (my only question in this regard would be if it's okay to just add missing tools to `componentregistry.xml` at this point?) We also need

[Framework-Team] security hole in zope 2.10.4

2007-07-11 Thread Andreas Zeidler
hi guys, i think i just found a pretty nasty security issue in zope 2.10.4, see http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/2007-July/029590.html for a more detailed explaination. the bug gives you completely unrestricted access in all view templates, which is probably not what we want,

[Framework-Team] Re: security hole in zope 2.10.4

2007-07-11 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Jul 12, 2007, at 1:03 AM, Andreas Zeidler wrote: i think i just found a pretty nasty security issue in zope 2.10.4, see http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-dev/2007-July/029590.html to quickly follow up on this (before finally getting some sleep :)), martin[1] and tres[2] clarified

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: Is this thing on?

2007-11-22 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Nov 21, 2007, at 10:36 PM, Tom Lazar wrote: +1 for having Martijn Faassen in the framework team. heh, make the dutch party level with the berlin guys? hmm, dunno... ;) being level is not only expressed in numbers ;-) i know — and i was thinking about mentioning this in my remark, but

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: proposed plone 3.1 timeframe

2007-11-22 Thread Andreas Zeidler
good morning :), On Nov 22, 2007, at 9:50 AM, Martin Aspeli wrote: Of course that's the other side of the same coin. I completely agree that we don't want that either. Hence my preference for setting shortish (mid-Jan is only 1.5 months away), but realistic deadlines based on the calendar,

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: proposed plone 3.1 timeframe

2007-11-23 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Nov 23, 2007, at 12:28 PM, Martin Aspeli wrote: we would need to know/decide there will be a 3.2 first, imho :) I want to do a 3.2. +1 same here — i didn't want to sound like i wouldn't. it just felt like we hadn't ultimately decided on that yet. andi -- zeidler it consulting -

Re: [Framework-Team] Revised 3.1 timeline

2007-11-24 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Nov 24, 2007, at 7:35 PM, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Based on everyones feedback (much appreciated!) I have updated my timeline. [...] Unless there are major objections I am going to make this official tomorrow. +1 andi -- zeidler it consulting - http://zitc.de/ - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP #195: Support product dependencies

2007-11-26 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Nov 26, 2007, at 10:10 AM, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Dear framework team, I want to suggest PLIP 195 for inclusion in Plone 3.1. You can find the full thing here: http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/195. sounds great to me, esp after having to manually install eight or so packages

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP #195: Support product dependencies

2007-11-26 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Nov 26, 2007, at 11:03 AM, Wichert Akkerman wrote: sounds great to me, esp after having to manually install eight or so packages for every new test site in the correct order for far too long... :) so, i'm +1 for accepting the PLIP. Great! Perhaps it would be practical to select a

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP #195: Support product dependencies

2007-11-27 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Nov 27, 2007, at 3:31 PM, Wichert Akkerman wrote: so, also counting the other votes this makes it a full +5. therefore — and this time as your official (but not yet announced) spokesperson — your PLIP has been accepted for the 3.1 release. congrats! :) Thanks! I've added it to the list of

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP #195: Support product dependencies

2007-11-27 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Nov 27, 2007, at 3:45 PM, Wichert Akkerman wrote: I'm sure we can set the spokesperson up with the necessary access. :) Can you check first if you don't already have that? i had already, but no green light, er frame... :) andi -- zeidler it consulting - http://zitc.de/ - [EMAIL

Re: [Framework-Team] review bundle for PLIP 195 ready

2007-11-28 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Nov 28, 2007, at 12:16 AM, Wichert Akkerman wrote: I have prepared a review bundle for PLIP 195: https://svn.plone.org/svn/plone/review/plip195-dependencies that was quick, thanks wichert! any takers for an early review? :) andi -- zeidler it consulting - http://zitc.de/ - [EMAIL

Re: [Framework-Team] review bundle for PLIP 195 ready

2007-11-28 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Nov 28, 2007, at 1:54 PM, Raphael Ritz wrote: Wichert Akkerman wrote: I have prepared a review bundle for PLIP 195: https://svn.plone.org/svn/plone/review/plip195-dependencies Maybe there's something wrong on my side but when calling buildout I just got: [...] the buildout works

Re: [Framework-Team] review bundle for PLIP 195 ready

2007-11-28 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Nov 28, 2007, at 4:57 PM, Raphael Ritz wrote: Installing ProductOne indeed triggers installation of ProductTwo but after that ProductTwo disappears from the plone add-on products panel completely. i haven't looked at the plone control panel yet, but... In ZMI it is listed as an installed

[Framework-Team] Re: PLIPs for 3.1

2007-12-03 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Dec 2, 2007, at 6:19 PM, Martin Aspeli wrote: Hi team, hi martin, I'm submitting the following PLIPs for Plone 3.1. thanks for submitting these — unfortunately i won't have time to read them today, but i'll catch up and comment some time later this week. having that said, could we,

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: PLIPs for 3.1

2007-12-04 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Dec 4, 2007, at 12:35 PM, Tom Lazar wrote: i'll take a look at the plips and check out their bundles (including wiggy's #195) during the weekend and will report by sunday evenening. fair enough, but let's make deciding on the acceptance of PLIPs a higher priority for the time being,

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: PLIPs for 3.1

2007-12-04 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Dec 4, 2007, at 2:07 PM, Raphael Ritz wrote: Andreas Zeidler wrote: On Dec 4, 2007, at 12:35 PM, Tom Lazar wrote: i'll take a look at the plips and check out their bundles (including wiggy's #195) during the weekend and will report by sunday evenening. fair enough, but let's make

Re: [Framework-Team] collecting votes / assigning plips to 3.1 in PSC

2007-12-13 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Dec 12, 2007, at 11:02 PM, Tom Lazar wrote: i'm slowly losing track of the plips and who voted what on them. so i'd like to formalize the tally a bit via PSC but am not familiar with its workings. +1 for starters, i will associate all plips discussed here with 3.1 (once the framework

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: access for framework team members to http://plone.org/products/plone/releases/3.1

2007-12-13 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Dec 13, 2007, at 11:37 AM, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Hanno Schlichting wrote: Maybe some else knows how to handle the plone.org beast? plone.org only slows down when the americans are awake and start doing weird things. can't we block them? ;) I just did this and plone.org was

[Framework-Team] Re: PLIPs for 3.1

2007-12-13 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Dec 2, 2007, at 6:19 PM, Martin Aspeli wrote: Hi team, hi martin, I'm submitting the following PLIPs for Plone 3.1. here's my (late) review of the plips. i've intentionally tried to read and comment on them first before reading the corresponding threads, so sorry for potential

Re: [Framework-Team] collecting votes / assigning plips to 3.1 in PSC

2007-12-13 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Dec 13, 2007, at 1:19 PM, Tom Lazar wrote: imho, we should only assign them when they've been accepted. that is unless there's something like a tentative state. there is. 'being discussed', actually. that's something else, though. the plips might very well stay in that state even

Re: [Framework-Team] collecting votes / assigning plips to 3.1 in PSC

2007-12-13 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Dec 13, 2007, at 1:33 PM, Andreas Zeidler wrote: there is no feature to add _pending_ plips, though, and imho that's quite different than adding accepted plips. i've added them in an additional section now, abusing the Release Notes section a bit. so, all in all i'm -1 for adding them

[Framework-Team] Re: [Plone-developers] Plone 3.1 timeline

2007-12-13 Thread Andreas Zeidler
hi all, as a member of the framework team i'd like to remind you that the deadline for submitting PLIPs for Plone 3.1 is tomorrow. any PLIPs that are not submitted by midnight tomorrow night cannot be considered for inclusion into the next release, so better hurry up if you still want

[Framework-Team] Re: [Plone-developers] Plone 3.1 timeline

2007-12-13 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Dec 13, 2007, at 2:21 PM, Andreas Zeidler wrote: as a member of the framework team i'd like to remind you that the deadline for submitting PLIPs for Plone 3.1 is tomorrow. for your convenience, i've just added a calendar containing the 3.1 timeline at http://plone.org/products/plone

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP #213: Prepare for better Syndication

2007-12-13 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Dec 11, 2007, at 3:52 PM, Florian Schulze wrote: Hi! hi flo, I propose the following PLIP: http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/213 +1 from me, since it's only a minor change and would make the viewlet story consistent. however, proper documentation on what modifications need to

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP #212: Use jQuery Javascript Library

2007-12-13 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Dec 12, 2007, at 10:53 PM, Tom Lazar wrote: On 12.12.2007, at 18:27, Florian Schulze wrote: This is the other PLIP I want to propose besides #213. Martijn did all the hard work for it already. http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/212 +1 unfortunately, i haven't worked with jQuery

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: My PLIPs for 3.1

2007-12-13 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Dec 12, 2007, at 4:18 PM, Encolpe Degoute wrote: Wichert Akkerman a écrit : Previously Encolpe Degoute wrote: #196: GroupUserFolder removing There were and there are a lot of critical UI bugs around GroupUserFolder by PlonePAS. Because of these, several Plone release had to be delayed.

Re: [Framework-Team] My PLIPs for 3.1

2007-12-13 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Dec 12, 2007, at 12:03 AM, Encolpe Degoute wrote: #214: Merge of CMFPlacefulWorkflow into CMFPlone/WorkflowTool CMFPlacefulWorkflow is now mature enough to be merge into the workflow tool: hmm, just to make sure, is this about merging the entire product into plone's workflow tool or

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: My PLIPs for 3.1

2007-12-13 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Dec 12, 2007, at 10:41 PM, Tom Lazar wrote: On 12.12.2007, at 18:45, Raphael Ritz wrote: In terms of ZCML overrides I think we shouldn't do that as there can always only be one override for a specific component at most (please correct me if I'm wrong). well, depending on the implementation

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP #212: Use jQuery Javascript Library

2007-12-13 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Dec 13, 2007, at 6:51 PM, Martijn Pieters wrote: On Dec 13, 2007 5:13 PM, Andreas Zeidler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: good, but how about going even further and adding a property and a switch in the control panel, which could then be used in conditions within the js registry? of course

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP #209: Add buildout to Unified Installer

2007-12-14 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Dec 14, 2007, at 8:53 AM, Raphael Ritz wrote: What's more: I als tohink this is the only sane way to support egg-based, third-party add-ons. exactly, loads of people could test blobs and report bugs that way, for example... ;) And while we are at this: Maybe we should add some

Re: [Framework-Team] new KSS versions

2007-12-14 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Dec 13, 2007, at 10:03 AM, Balazs Ree wrote: Dear Framework Team, we submitted the following plip: http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/215 after talking to balazs about the changes between the current version (1.2.4) and the new one (1.4), mostly clarifying what happened to 1.3 —

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: PLIPs for Plone 3.1 - Flexibility with Portlet Managers / Types

2007-12-14 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Dec 13, 2007, at 6:23 PM, George Lee wrote: Despite this, I actually think it would be best to explicitly register portlets like the calendar portlet for IColumn and IDashboard rather than relying on the current convention -- that if a portlet is registered for None, it appears in all

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIPs for Plone 3.1 - Flexibility with Portlet Managers / Types

2007-12-14 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Dec 14, 2007, at 2:58 PM, Martijn Pieters wrote: On Dec 13, 2007 3:45 PM, George Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've submitted two PLIPs for Plone 3.1 -- http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/205 http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/207 Excellent PLIPs, well written, thanks. +1 on both

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIPs for Plone 3.1 - Flexibility with Portlet Managers / Types

2007-12-14 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Dec 14, 2007, at 3:19 PM, Andreas Zeidler wrote: On Dec 13, 2007, at 3:45 PM, George Lee wrote: http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/207 btw, i've just rejected plip 206, as this obviously was an (unfinished) duplicate of 207. maybe it should better be deleted, so it won't appear

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP #209: Add buildout to Unified Installer

2007-12-14 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Dec 14, 2007, at 1:28 PM, Martijn Pieters wrote: On Dec 14, 2007 12:23 PM, Andreas Zeidler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And while we are at this: Maybe we should add some information to the setup configlet where we show the ZOPEHOME and such. How about adding the path to the Python that's used

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP #212: Use jQuery Javascript Library

2007-12-14 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Dec 14, 2007, at 9:20 AM, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Alec Mitchell wrote: Yes, but that's something we should be trying to fix (with better compression on the RR ot KSS side, or just by encouraging people to enable mod_deflate on their apache setup). People are going to want

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIPs for Plone 3.1 - Flexibility with Portlet Managers / Types

2007-12-14 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Dec 13, 2007, at 3:45 PM, George Lee wrote: Hi, hi george, I've submitted two PLIPs for Plone 3.1 -- thanks. http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/205 +1 provided the new `getAddableTypes` can — like you suggested — handle both singletons and tuples, so that no migration code is

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: PLIP #212: Use jQuery Javascript Library

2007-12-14 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Dec 14, 2007, at 1:11 PM, Hanno Schlichting wrote: A bit unrelated, but should we maybe try to enhance our upgrade story in a way that we list required and optional steps in it and provide the user with a way to select/deselect the optional steps? i like the idea. For cssQuery that

Re: [Framework-Team] Two more PLIPs

2007-12-14 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Dec 14, 2007, at 9:11 AM, Alec Mitchell wrote: Hi framework team members, hi framework team pioneer, A couple more PLIPs to keep you guys busy: thank you very much. :) Adapterized local role lookup (borg.localrole): http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/208 also very nicely

Re: Timezone PLIP anyone? (was: Re: [Framework-Team] Deadline today, but what timezone?)

2007-12-14 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Dec 14, 2007, at 9:56 PM, Sidnei da Silva wrote: Speaking of Timezone, did anyone write a PLIP about user-configurable timezones i didn't have a look at all the plips out there, but no such plip has been submitted for plone 3.1 at least. so far, that is. I've been meaning to write

Re: [Framework-Team] Deadline today, but what timezone?

2007-12-14 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Dec 14, 2007, at 9:23 PM, Martijn Pieters wrote: I can't seem to find what the exact deadline is for PLIPs; midnight is mentioned, but in what timezone would that be? :-) i'd say without explicit specification GMT applies. andi -- zeidler it consulting - http://zitc.de/ - [EMAIL

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP 220: Improve browser layer support

2007-12-14 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Dec 14, 2007, at 10:20 PM, Tom Lazar wrote: On 14.12.2007, at 21:18, Wichert Akkerman wrote: I want to propose PLIP 220: http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/220 +1 +1 from me, too. and btw, happy birthday, tom!! :) andi -- zeidler it consulting - http://zitc.de/ - [EMAIL

Re: [Framework-Team] When do we hear?

2007-12-19 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Dec 19, 2007, at 9:43 PM, Martijn Pieters wrote: On Dec 19, 2007 9:42 PM, Martijn Pieters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As you can see from the 3.1 release schedule as set by Wichert, the framework team has set itself this friday as the deadline for selecting the PLIPs for 3.1. Whoops, I meant

Re: [Framework-Team] voting process

2007-12-20 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Dec 20, 2007, at 9:04 AM, Raphael Ritz wrote: Hi team mates, hi raphael, do we have a plan on how to do the voting on PLIPS? i think so. :) 1. Do we give our votes here via the list or on the website as comment or both? i'd prefer them to be on the plip pages themselves. that'll

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: voting process

2007-12-21 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Dec 21, 2007, at 11:29 PM, Andreas Zeidler wrote: i just went trough all mails again double checking and ended up adding the following plips to the list: #192: Vice Outbound Syndication that one wasn't submitted for 3.1 — i just grepped the mailing list before and hadn't realized

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: PLIPs for Plone 3.1 - Flexibility with Portlet Managers / Types

2007-12-21 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Dec 14, 2007, at 11:52 PM, George Lee wrote: Here is a PLIP to re-register portlets like the calendar for IColumn and IDashboard: http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/218. +1 as a side note, how about deprecating registrations for portlet when 'for_' isn't set? cheers, andi ps:

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP #187 for Plone 3.1

2007-12-21 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Dec 19, 2007, at 10:01 PM, Martijn Pieters wrote: On Dec 16, 2007 3:31 PM, Martijn Pieters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If it's too late for 3.1, well, too bad. :( I am okay with including this one for 3.1; it would be a shame if we didn't include the work. I'd like to hear from the other

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: PLIP 219: New site search implementation

2007-12-22 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Dec 18, 2007, at 9:44 PM, Hanno Schlichting wrote: Tom Lazar wrote: same here, unless you can work something out (perhaps together with hanno) along the lines of the 'optional' migration steps that hanno has mentioned. i.e. folks could choose to include this update in 3.1 if they know

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP #187 for Plone 3.1

2007-12-22 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Dec 16, 2007, at 3:31 PM, Martijn Pieters wrote: On Dec 16, 2007 1:14 PM, Sidnei da Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With all the cool new stuff going around, I completely forgot to propose my own PLIP for 3.1 inclusion. PLIP #187 is already implemented and can be merged with some small

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP #199 : Integration of ARFilePreview in Plone core (preview of office and other binary files)

2007-12-22 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Dec 13, 2007, at 11:40 PM, Thierry Benita wrote: Hi, hi thierry, jean-nicolas, I propose to include the File Preview feature in next plone release. It is a non intrusive feature that doesn't need to migrate anything in order to work out of the box.

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: More worfklow adapters, status and history

2007-12-22 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Dec 20, 2007, at 11:31 AM, Laurence Rowe wrote: Alec Mitchell wrote: On Dec 19, 2007 1:07 PM, Martijn Pieters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 17, 2007 1:36 AM, Laurence Rowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Inspired by Alec's plip #217, I'd like to propose making workflow history/status storage

[Framework-Team] preliminary results for PLIP selection call for votes!

2007-12-22 Thread Andreas Zeidler
hi all, On Dec 22, 2007, at 12:37 AM, Andreas Zeidler wrote: ps: i still got 4 votes to cast, but have to go offline, since i'm occupying a room in which people want to go to sleep now... sorry about that — i'll post my votes and do the bookkeeping in the morning. here's a first summary

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: PLIP #187 for Plone 3.1

2007-12-22 Thread Andreas Zeidler
hi martin, On Dec 22, 2007, at 1:27 AM, Martin Aspeli wrote: Andreas Zeidler wrote: i don't mind about a few hours or timezone differences, but imho we should consider plips which have been submitted more than a day late. that should have read shouldn't, of course — sorry for any

Re: [Framework-Team] A question about bundles and PLIP 203

2007-12-22 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Dec 21, 2007, at 12:51 AM, Martin Aspeli wrote: Hi guys, hi there :), How do you feel about a lite review bundle that basically is just an instruction like Use ploneout 3.0 branch and svn switch src/ plone.app.portlets to the following URL? Perhaps it's a good alternative for you guys

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP documentation

2007-12-22 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Dec 21, 2007, at 3:31 AM, Martin Aspeli wrote: Hi, hiya, I just put some documentation on the implementation of PLIP 203 up on the PLIP page (http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/203). hmm, i'm probably missing something, but the implementation sections of that plip is still empty

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP #209: Add buildout to Unified Installer

2007-12-22 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Dec 14, 2007, at 2:02 PM, Raphael Ritz wrote: Andreas Zeidler wrote: [..] The configlet would benefit all Plone installations, not just the unified installer, so we should treat it separately. true, +1. raphael, could you quickly write that up? I would prefer if someone else could do

Re: Timezone PLIP anyone? (was: Re: [Framework-Team] Deadline today, but what timezone?)

2007-12-22 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Dec 14, 2007, at 9:56 PM, Sidnei da Silva wrote: Speaking of Timezone, did anyone write a PLIP about user-configurable timezones? I've been meaning to write this for a while... The only information I could find was this page:

Re: [Framework-Team] Deadline today, but what timezone?

2007-12-22 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Dec 14, 2007, at 11:33 PM, Rob Miller wrote: Andreas Zeidler wrote: On Dec 14, 2007, at 9:23 PM, Martijn Pieters wrote: I can't seem to find what the exact deadline is for PLIPs; midnight is mentioned, but in what timezone would that be? :-) i'd say without explicit specification GMT

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: PLIP documentation

2007-12-22 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Dec 22, 2007, at 2:59 PM, Martin Aspeli wrote: Andreas Zeidler wrote: On Dec 21, 2007, at 3:31 AM, Martin Aspeli wrote: I just put some documentation on the implementation of PLIP 203 up on the PLIP page (http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/203). hmm, i'm probably missing something

Re: [Framework-Team] Kupu PLIP for 3.1

2007-12-22 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Dec 16, 2007, at 3:42 PM, Martijn Pieters wrote: On Dec 15, 2007 9:25 PM, Alexander Limi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I won't have internet connnection until Monday, so I hope it's OK that I get the PLIP in then. Since this is more about the acceptance of the idea than delivering the

[Framework-Team] results of PLIP selection for Plone 3.1

2007-12-23 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Dec 22, 2007, at 12:22 PM, Andreas Zeidler wrote: here's a first summary of all votes cast so far by the framework team on selection particular plips for inclusion into plone 3.1: all but one of the remaining votes have been casted in the meantime, so it's time for an update: #184

[Framework-Team] selected PLIPs for Plone 3.1

2007-12-23 Thread Andreas Zeidler
hi all, the framework team has voted on all PLIPs submitted for inclusion into Plone 3.1. it's taken a bit longer than planned, and we'd like apologize for the delay. the following PLIPs have been accepted: #184: Include more/improved portlets #187: Working Out-of-the-box WebDAV

Re: [Framework-Team] Organizing the review

2008-01-16 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Jan 15, 2008, at 12:29 PM, Tom Lazar wrote: how about, each team member picks 2-3 plips that are *not* covered by other members + 1-2 plips that *are* covered by others? imho that's a good idea to get started, but afair we have 24 plips to review, so to have at least 2 team members look

Re: [Framework-Team] Organizing the review

2008-01-18 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Jan 16, 2008, at 12:20 PM, Andreas Zeidler wrote: so, how about (ab)using trac tickets to assign plips to team members and collect review notes etc? that way people could be cc'ed to make sure the author(s) and relevant team members get the news. plus using an additional query it would

Re: [Framework-Team] Organizing the review

2008-01-19 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Jan 19, 2008, at 11:29 AM, Tom Lazar wrote: andi, sorry about the silence, i've fallen a bit ill (that noro virus that's going round here in berlin, watch out...) yeah, i've heard... :( it would be great, if you could set up a trac instance to get us up and running. actually, i meant

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP 201 ready for review

2008-01-21 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Jan 20, 2008, at 12:35 AM, Florian Schulze wrote: Hi! hiya, PLIP 201 the mysterious ÜberSelectionWidget is ready for review! https://svn.plone.org/svn/plone/review/plip201-usw Review notes included in buildout. cool, thanks flo for making it — and sorry for being lame and not able to

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: PLIP 201 ready for review

2008-01-21 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Jan 21, 2008, at 6:43 PM, Florian Schulze wrote: Hmm, and his birth time zone is most likely norway, so there I would have been late as well :P But I meant his current living time zone which is the UK to my knowledge :) not to worry — we said gmt anyway... ;) andi -- zeidler it

Re: [Framework-Team] Organizing the review

2008-01-24 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Jan 19, 2008, at 9:31 PM, Raphael Ritz wrote: Andreas Zeidler wrote: [..] actually, i meant using the plone's dev trac itself — no need to set up things and accounts etc, the info's gonna stay around and also the bundle reviews are somewhat related to it after all... ;) That would

Re: [Framework-Team] review deadline coming up

2008-01-29 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Jan 29, 2008, at 8:10 AM, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Martijn Pieters wrote: On Jan 28, 2008 10:13 AM, Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The review deadline for all PLIPs is this Saturday, a mere 5 days from now. Does anyone have an overview of the current review status? I am deeply

Re: [Framework-Team] review deadline coming up

2008-01-29 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Jan 29, 2008, at 9:56 AM, Tom Lazar wrote: andi and i are going to meet this week and will do some review work together (and come up with some sort of overview) hmm, i don't wanna start a discussion or something, but i don't think that's gonna be enough. i've managed to set everything

[Framework-Team] Re: PLIP #215: Include new KSS versions

2008-01-30 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Jan 30, 2008, at 9:33 AM, Balazs Ree wrote: Hi Andi, hi balazs, my mail is not coming up on the freamwork list, which I don't understand anyway here is the cc. i'll cc the list and try to quote all of your mail so people have enough context... Andi wrote: while the delay

Re: [Framework-Team] review deadline coming up

2008-01-30 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Jan 29, 2008, at 11:11 AM, Wichert Akkerman wrote: I get the impression that the framework team is not going to be able to meet the current deadline. ok, obviously coming up with an overview took me way longer than i thought, since i could again only work on and off today. anyway, here

Re: [Framework-Team] review deadline coming up

2008-01-30 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Jan 30, 2008, at 9:14 AM, Raphael Ritz wrote: Andreas Zeidler wrote: * raphael, you've offered to look at martin's plips — is that still valid? Yes; and I've look somewhat more closely at two already but didn't check in any comments yet ah, cool. could you tell me which or assign them

Re: [Framework-Team] review deadline coming up

2008-01-30 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Jan 30, 2008, at 1:44 AM, Andreas Zeidler wrote: so, could every team member please respond asap to let us know what the status is and until when they can finished their shares of reviews?! of course, to answer the second part we first need to distribute those 16 review. however, as i

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP #215: Include new KSS versions

2008-01-30 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Jan 21, 2008, at 4:17 PM, Raphael Ritz wrote: Wichert Akkerman wrote: I sort of agree, but I do want to note that I can not find a reference of PLIP 215 being proposed before. It was submitted by Balazs on December 13 via email to this list (search for new kss version). just for

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP #215: Include new KSS versions

2008-01-30 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Jan 20, 2008, at 2:04 AM, Balazs Ree wrote: Dear Framework Team, hi balazs, Since we are after the first day of the sprint, I succeeded to build and test the version that contains our all merged code, but still I have to pull back the above mentioned functionality. Which means, I will

Re: [Framework-Team] review deadline coming up

2008-01-31 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Jan 31, 2008, at 11:47 AM, Martijn Pieters wrote: On 30. jan.. 2008, at 01.44, Andreas Zeidler wrote: * martijn, when will you be able to work on this again? and do you have any preferences about what plips you'd like to review? No preferences, I can do reviews next week. Right now

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: PLIP #215: Include new KSS versions

2008-01-31 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Jan 31, 2008, at 5:22 PM, Tom Lazar wrote: a big 'thank you' from me, too. i think the changes you mentioned are well worth including in 3.1 and i will definitely review this plip, too (also it fits quite nicely with florian's jquery plip) as well as this one, too[*]. andi [*]

Re: [Framework-Team] review deadline coming up

2008-01-31 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Jan 31, 2008, at 5:12 PM, Tom Lazar wrote: hi guys, hey there, i'm afraid i'm pretty much swamped with work- and family obligations until february 12th [...] well, not so good news, but thanks for replying anyway. i am however, for instance, extremely interested in florian's jquery

Re: [Framework-Team] review deadline coming up

2008-01-31 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Jan 30, 2008, at 10:37 AM, Andreas Zeidler wrote: ok, fair enough. but again, could you go ahead and assign the tickets you're planning to work on to yourself asap? we really need to have someone responsible for each ticket, or else i'm afraid they'll just linger... guys, we still

Re: [Fwd: Re: [Framework-Team] review deadline coming up]

2008-01-31 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Jan 31, 2008, at 9:32 PM, Raphael Ritz wrote: Sorry Andy, this should have gone to the list. np :) Andreas Zeidler wrote: oh, and raphael, could you let us know which ones you started with, please? or better yet, assign them to yourself. At the moment I've prepared for (aka

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP 224: CSRF protection framework

2008-01-31 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Jan 31, 2008, at 7:15 PM, Wichert Akkerman wrote: See http://plone.org/products/plone/roadmap/224 for details. I absolutely hate to do this since it violates our process and we already have a large number of PLIPs waiting for review, but I am proposing this PLIP for Plone 3.1. definitely a

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP 224: CSRF protection framework

2008-01-31 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Jan 31, 2008, at 9:20 PM, Raphael Ritz wrote: At this moment I do not have a review bundle ready; I'm hoping that someone will beat me to it since I have very little time to work on it. OK, so I'll take on the role of beating you to this and I'll try to sneak in a review during the sprint

Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP 224: CSRF protection framework

2008-01-31 Thread Andreas Zeidler
how about getting the important ones done for 3.1 and perhaps making generic support a PLIP for 3.2? andi ps: thanks wichert for coming up with those two packages so quickly, btw! On Jan 31, 2008, at 9:55 PM, Wichert Akkerman wrote: A few quick comments: It is only important for the

pyflakes? (was: Re: [Framework-Team] Translation effort for Plone 3.1)

2008-02-01 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Feb 1, 2008, at 9:32 AM, Alexander Limi wrote: You probably see where I'm going with this, but: I'd like to ship 3.1 with a set of .po files that do not contain the strings from Plone 2.5. Hanno said it would take him a couple of hours to weed out the stuff that is 2.5-specific, and

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: PLIPs 208 and 217 Ready for Review

2008-02-01 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Feb 1, 2008, at 9:51 AM, Alexander Limi wrote: Just a general question here, while I remember it: When things like this happen, shouldn't packages be renamed to plone.localrole instead of borg.localrole? hmm, i'm not sure. it would surely lessen confusion, but otoh a lot of packages

Re: pyflakes? (was: Re: [Framework-Team] Translation effort for Plone 3.1)

2008-02-01 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Feb 1, 2008, at 12:04 PM, Martijn Pieters wrote: On Feb 1, 2008 11:51 AM, Andreas Zeidler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: talking about weeding out stuff bring another thing to mind. not exactly related to translations, but i'll throw it in here anyway: tools like pylint[1] and pyflakes[2] have

Re: pyflakes? (was: Re: [Framework-Team] Translation effort for Plone 3.1)

2008-02-01 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Feb 1, 2008, at 11:51 AM, Andreas Zeidler wrote: [3] which basically means all packages except `statusmessages` (guess who owns that ;)) as you can see from the attached list counting the warnings; i should note that this list still contains warnings about namespace package `__init__.py

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: PLIPs 208 and 217 Ready for Review

2008-02-01 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Feb 1, 2008, at 12:31 PM, Martin Aspeli wrote: -1 to renaming everthing plone.*. When things begin outside Plone (which we should encourage), then we can't necessarily insist that they are called plone.* (in fact, we'd probably discourage it if it wasn't intended to be eventually destined for

Re: [Framework-Team] review deadline coming up

2008-02-01 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Jan 31, 2008, at 9:28 PM, Andreas Zeidler wrote: [*] 17 submitted bundles times 2 makes 34 reviews, which results in 6.8 for each team member i've just noticed that PLIP 215 was missing from the list, since it wasn't marked as having a bundle available yet. so we've got 18 packages

Re: pyflakes? (was: Re: [Framework-Team] Translation effort for Plone 3.1)

2008-02-01 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Feb 1, 2008, at 1:02 PM, Tom Lazar wrote: On 01.02.2008, at 12:07, Andreas Zeidler wrote: yes, i'm very much aware of these problems having used pyflakes myself for quite some time now. that's one of the reasons i'm bringing this up here (instead of starting to weed away on trunk

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: PLIPs 208 and 217 Ready for Review

2008-02-01 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Feb 1, 2008, at 1:06 PM, Tom Lazar wrote: updates and fixes would only go into the new package. of course, we'd leave the old packages around. right, but actually that's what i meant — it would leave many people stuck with the old, non-maintained version... we can add a note in

Re: pyflakes? (was: Re: [Framework-Team] Translation effort for Plone 3.1)

2008-02-01 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Feb 1, 2008, at 2:24 PM, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Tom Lazar wrote: given the aforementioned possibility of 3rd party breakage i think it's plain that 'pyflakes sanity' is a no-go for 3.1 but perhaps for 4.0? since that will necessitate 3rd party rewrites/adaptions anyway, might as

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: PLIPs 208 and 217 Ready for Review

2008-02-01 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Feb 1, 2008, at 2:11 PM, Tom Lazar wrote: [...] but to 'simulate diversity' by letting our own packages keep their initial, non-plone name when integrating them into plone core doesn't strike me as particularly desirable (or straightforward, for that matter), either. my point was more

Re: pyflakes? (was: Re: [Framework-Team] Translation effort for Plone 3.1)

2008-02-01 Thread Andreas Zeidler
On Feb 1, 2008, at 7:00 PM, Martijn Pieters wrote: On 1. feb.. 2008, at 12.28, Martin Aspeli wrote: Careful with weeding imports. I recently had to fix a migration issue for a customer, where a persistent tool had been moved into another module with an import at the old location. Someone else

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