[Framework-Team] Re: The big 3.0 ;)

2007-04-04 Thread Alexander Limi
On Tue, 03 Apr 2007 03:45:56 -0700, Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Members folder gets created even though it's turned off? Bug, should be fixed. Still present. - Put back autofocus behaviour now that we have ondomload (make sure tabindex is

[Framework-Team] Re: The big 3.0 ;)

2007-04-04 Thread Jeroen Vloothuis
Wichert Akkerman wrote: - Get a basic UI on ÜberSelectionWidget It has a basic UI, just no ajax interface. Nobody appears to be doing that either, so we're going to have to postpone that until 3.5. I was looking into this. Then I ran into a problem with z3c.widget because it was not

[Framework-Team] Re: The big 3.0 ;)

2007-04-04 Thread Florian Schulze
On Wed, 04 Apr 2007 09:09:27 +0200, Alexander Limi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 3.0.x minor are for bug and security fixes, not feature changes. So in 9 months, we can add comments without reloading the page, great... I understand this frustration, but agree that minor releases shouldn't

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: The big 3.0 ;)

2007-04-04 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Alexander Limi wrote: On Tue, 03 Apr 2007 03:45:56 -0700, Wichert Akkerman 3.0.x minor are for bug and security fixes, not feature changes. So in 9 months, we can add comments without reloading the page, great... Correct. That is the only way to do release and be able to promise

[Framework-Team] Re: The big 3.0 ;)

2007-04-04 Thread Florian Schulze
On Tue, 03 Apr 2007 21:59:05 +0200, Jeroen Vloothuis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wichert Akkerman wrote: - Get a basic UI on ÜberSelectionWidget It has a basic UI, just no ajax interface. Nobody appears to be doing that either, so we're going to have to postpone that until 3.5. I

[Framework-Team] Re: The big 3.0 ;)

2007-04-04 Thread Jeroen Vloothuis
Florian Schulze wrote: What does Zope commit access and z3c.widget have to do with ÜberSelectionWidget? There is a small bit of code in there which I want to use. http://svn.zope.org/z3c.widget/trunk/src/z3c/widget/namespace/README.txt?rev=71292view=markup

[Framework-Team] Re: The big 3.0 ;)

2007-04-03 Thread Martin Aspeli
Wichert Akkerman wrote: some comments on this list, based on current status. Previously Alexander Limi wrote: Fix before RCs: - KSS: - Reduce file size, it's currently way too heavy I'll make a seperate post on that. - Get a basic UI on ÜberSelectionWidget It has a

[Framework-Team] Re: The big 3.0 ;)

2007-04-03 Thread Florian Schulze
On Tue, 03 Apr 2007 20:21:06 +0200, Martin Aspeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wichert Akkerman wrote: - Move sendto/print/whatever to bottom of page, use text representation Needs to happen soon or becomes 3.5 material. Bear in mind this probably has an impact on third

[Framework-Team] Re: The big 3.0 ;)

2007-04-03 Thread Martin Aspeli
Alec Mitchell wrote: On 4/3/07, Martin Aspeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wichert Akkerman wrote: - Wicked - Needs to use createObject?type_name=Document — the way it is set up now, anything spidering the site with credentials will create objects, and any object

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: The big 3.0 ;)

2007-04-03 Thread whit
Alec Mitchell wrote: On 4/3/07, Martin Aspeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wichert Akkerman wrote: - Wicked - Needs to use createObject?type_name=Document — the way it is set up now, anything spidering the site with credentials will create objects, and any

[Framework-Team] Re: The big 3.0 ;)

2007-04-03 Thread Martin Aspeli
Martin Aspeli wrote: - Search: only in this section checkbox Needs to happen soon or becomes 3.5 material. Trivial, though, if someone has cycles. I was looking at this template anyway, so I've done it. Florian has promised to hook it into livesearch. Martin

[Framework-Team] Re: The big 3.0 ;)

2007-03-31 Thread Laurence Rowe
Raphael Ritz wrote: snip/ On a related note: let's not forget that one of the strong points of Zope/Plone has always been the possibility to do many things TTW from a browser. In many real life situations, site admins don't have file system access to the server deploying their site which

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: The big 3.0 ;)

2007-03-30 Thread Raphael Ritz
Martin Aspeli schrieb: [..] There is a general developer mis-conception that Plone's not *too bad at* but sometimes we all do it: More options == better. Could we maybe return to the issue that triggered this discussion, namely whether or not to bann the smart folder settings from the Plone

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: The big 3.0 ;)

2007-03-30 Thread Martin Aspeli
Raphael Ritz wrote: Martin Aspeli schrieb: [..] There is a general developer mis-conception that Plone's not *too bad at* but sometimes we all do it: More options == better. Could we maybe return to the issue that triggered this discussion, namely whether or not to bann the smart folder

[Framework-Team] Re: The big 3.0 ;)

2007-03-29 Thread Florian Schulze
Hi! I also think we should avoid the context switch to the ZMI. We were advocating this all the time. I think we should have a site configuration like we have now and another one for advanced stuff. The advanced one should have a big warning like Be sure you know what you do here, or you

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: The big 3.0 ;)

2007-03-29 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Florian Schulze wrote: Hi! I also think we should avoid the context switch to the ZMI. We were advocating this all the time. I think we should have a site configuration like we have now and another one for advanced stuff. Having two control panels feels bad to me. A 'advanced

[Framework-Team] Re: The big 3.0 ;)

2007-03-28 Thread Martin Aspeli
whit wrote: re: zmi. lets talk about being painfully modal. The fact we are having this conversation seems to indicate a different and wider issue to me. Without wanting to get into an abstract and easy-to-talk-past-each-other discussion, I think you're right. :-) A useful metric may be

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: The big 3.0 ;)

2007-03-28 Thread whit
Martin Aspeli wrote: whit wrote: re: zmi. lets talk about being painfully modal. The fact we are having this conversation seems to indicate a different and wider issue to me. Without wanting to get into an abstract and easy-to-talk-past-each-other discussion, I think you're right. :-) A

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: The big 3.0 ;)

2007-03-26 Thread Martin Aspeli
Alexander Limi wrote: On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 23:43:13 -0700, Alexander Limi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - There's something strange going on with enabling comments, it only works on the initial view of the page after saving, possibly related This actually seems to

[Framework-Team] Re: The big 3.0 ;)

2007-03-25 Thread Alexander Limi
On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 23:43:13 -0700, Alexander Limi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - There's something strange going on with enabling comments, it only works on the initial view of the page after saving, possibly related This actually seems to be related to the KSS

[Framework-Team] Re: The big 3.0 ;)

2007-03-24 Thread Alexander Limi
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 17:49:50 -0700, Martin Aspeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin Aspeli wrote: - Only show the Display/Add/WF pulldowns on the View screen - Possibly remove the border on initial creation forms (ie. keep the actual green border, but

[Framework-Team] Re: The big 3.0 ;)

2007-03-24 Thread Daniel Nouri
Alexander Limi wrote: On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 05:00:45 -0700, Daniel Nouri wrote: Do you want to tell (core) add-on developers to not make use of the niceties of plone.app.controlpanel because their thing is too complex? Uhm, if people can't use zope.formlib anywhere else than in

[Framework-Team] Re: The big 3.0 ;)

2007-03-24 Thread Martin Aspeli
Alexander Limi wrote: On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 17:49:50 -0700, Martin Aspeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Martin Aspeli wrote: - Only show the Display/Add/WF pulldowns on the View screen - Possibly remove the border on initial creation forms (ie. keep the

[Framework-Team] Re: The big 3.0 ;)

2007-03-24 Thread Alexander Limi
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 07:19:32 -0700, Martin Aspeli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This should now be fixed, svn up plone.app.layout. Note that with KSS inline tab reloading and inline content view switching, you'll need to reload the page manually, because KSS doesn't yet refresh the menu as

[Framework-Team] Re: The big 3.0 ;)

2007-03-24 Thread Alexander Limi
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 13:26:43 -0700, Alexander Limi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Again, I strongly recommend that we disable this *unless* the KSS people have time (and willingness) to spend fixing history+URL injection. That sentence was missing a for now. :) I'm happy to reintroduce it in a

[Framework-Team] Re: The big 3.0 ;)

2007-03-24 Thread Alexander Limi
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 03:04:50 -0700, Geir Bækholt · Plone Solutions [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes. of course the :default must be supplied or the checkbox will not be noticed by html. I somehow took this for granted and didn't mention it (sorry. my oversight), but i see now in boolean.pt

[Framework-Team] Re: The big 3.0 ;)

2007-03-24 Thread Alexander Limi
On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 05:00:05 -0700, Daniel Nouri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know that the difference between ZMI and Plone configuration has traditionally been: If you need to do more than that, go to the ZMI, even if more by accident than by anything else. I don't see why we should

[Framework-Team] Re: The big 3.0 ;)

2007-03-23 Thread Daniel Nouri
Hi! Alexander Limi wrote: - Archetypes - After we removed JS from checkboxes, they no longer stick (really!). Might have to put that back, even though it sucks - There's something strange going on with enabling comments, it only works on the initial

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: The big 3.0 ;)

2007-03-23 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Daniel Nouri wrote: Hi! Alexander Limi wrote: - Archetypes - After we removed JS from checkboxes, they no longer stick (really!). Might have to put that back, even though it sucks - There's something strange going on with enabling comments, it

[Framework-Team] Re: The big 3.0 ;)

2007-03-23 Thread Florian Schulze
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 07:43:13 +0100, Alexander Limi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Fieldsets - Do we still support fieldsets that require something on fieldset #1 to be filled out before you can access fieldset #4? You mean the wizard style like before? You

[Framework-Team] Re: The big 3.0 ;)

2007-03-23 Thread Alexander Limi
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 05:03:58 -0700, Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Previously Daniel Nouri wrote: Who removed JS from checkboxes when? I did that, it worked correctly for me (and the old javascript did not work with in-place edit iirc). I haven't tested why it doesn't work for

[Framework-Team] Re: The big 3.0 ;)

2007-03-23 Thread Alexander Limi
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 06:29:01 -0700, Florian Schulze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 07:43:13 +0100, Alexander Limi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Fieldsets - Do we still support fieldsets that require something on fieldset #1 to be filled out before you

[Framework-Team] Re: The big 3.0 ;)

2007-03-23 Thread Alexander Limi
On Fri, 23 Mar 2007 05:00:45 -0700, Daniel Nouri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you want to tell (core) add-on developers to not make use of the niceties of plone.app.controlpanel because their thing is too complex? Uhm, if people can't use zope.formlib anywhere else than in

[Framework-Team] Re: The big 3.0 ;)

2007-03-23 Thread Martin Aspeli
whit wrote: What's everyone else's excuse? :-) explosive diarrhea. Tiran once coded in the toilet at a sprint, so that won't do, Whit. Martin ___ Framework-Team mailing list Framework-Team@lists.plone.org

Re: [Framework-Team] Re: The big 3.0 ;)

2007-03-23 Thread whit
Martin Aspeli wrote: whit wrote: What's everyone else's excuse? :-) explosive diarrhea. Tiran once coded in the toilet at a sprint, so that won't do, Whit. I didn't want to vomit on my keyboard. -w -- -- d. whit morriss -- - senior engineer, opencore - -