Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP review overview
172 should be ready for merging in a few days. -w Wichert Akkerman wrote: I have gone over all the current reviews and divided them into three sections: PLIPs ready for merging, PLIPs which need more work and not yet reviewed PLIPs. Here we go: PLIPs ready for merging --- PLIP 8 - Versioning Stable product. There are possible improvements, but the current code is well structured and battle tested. PLIP 118 - Portlets engine based on PlonePortlets and Viewlets Does deserve a good tutorial. PLIP 142 - Componentise the global content menu Hanno found a few minor issues, which Martin mostly debunked. Remaining items are small and can be covered after an alpha released. Most important issue is backwards compatibility with older global_contentmenu customizations. Since Plone 3.0 is scheduled to get a new UI (of limi has this ready on time) this may be a non-issue since all templates may change. PLIP 148 - Move to CMF 2.1 Raphael found some remaining TODO-items which Hanno has taken care of by now. PLIPs not ready for merging --- PLIP 48 - Use session instead of cookie plugin to store PAS authentication Old-style product, containing a lot of code to support non-PAS sites. Needs Cache-Fu updates. PLIP 112 - XML Import / Export Export is not implemented. Only supports AT-based content, Zope 3 schema based content and custom AT fields are not supported. Tests do not run. PLIP 127 - Move properties to Edit screen using pre-loaded fieldsets dhtml-schemata branch needs merging into Archetypes. Grouping of properties has not been implemented yet. The content tabs need to be refactored. PLIP 145 - Locking Event naming hs to be synchronized with iterate (PLIP 168). Removing a lock on set by iterate on published content should not be easily possible. Should switch to using evevnts instead of patching AT. Possible needs extra extensionpoints in AT. PLIP 149 - Improved Markup SUpport allowable_content_types support needs work. Handle non-installed formats properly. PLIP 168 - integrate iterate for checkin/checkout/staging Viewing a locked front page gave an error until the page was checked in. PLIP 172 - Wiki syntax support for all content Demo content types should be disabled. Needs integration into ATContentTypes with an option to switch it on and off. PLIP 174 - More configurable and reusable i18n features TODO-items in the bundle need to be implemented. PLIP 179 - Improved commenting infrastructure Interfaces need to be updated to be more flexible. Code needs to be refactored into a plone.commenting package. Work is well on its way. PLIPs still under discussion PLIP 121 - Asynchronous loading of content views Implemented in both Bling and Azax/KSS. Needs a decision on the Ajax framework to use for Plone 3.0. PLIP 122 - Edit-in-place mode for all basic field types Implemented in both Bling and Azax/KSS. Needs a decision on the Ajax framework to use for Plone 3.0. PLIP 171 - KSS / Azax to Plone KSS/Azax are well designed and have very active developers. It is designed with developers in mind instead of copying patterns used by other frameworks. A sprint including non-azax developer has already happened, showing there is a very active group of people supporting this framework. Considering Bling has not seen much activity lately and its bundle does not work this looks like the best choice. PLIPs not yet reviewed -- PLIP 119 - Contextual help portlet PLIP 125 - Ensuring link/reference integrity (removing 404 links) PLIP 144 - Generalised Next / Previous navigation PLIP 157 - Content rules engine PLIP 173 - OpenID support Wichert. begin:vcard fn:D. Whitfield Morriss n:Morriss;D. Whitfield org:The Open Planning Project;OpenPlans adr:;;1309 Ashwood Ave;Nashville;TN;37212;USA email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] title:Lead Developer tel;home:615 292-9142 tel;cell:415 710-8975 x-mozilla-html:FALSE version:2.1 end:vcard ___ Framework-Team mailing list
Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP review overview
Hi Wichert, I have gone over all the current reviews and divided them into three sections: PLIPs ready for merging, PLIPs which need more work and not yet reviewed PLIPs. Here we go: Great, thank you! PLIPs ready for merging --- PLIP 8 - Versioning Stable product. There are possible improvements, but the current code is well structured and battle tested. +1 PLIP 118 - Portlets engine based on PlonePortlets and Viewlets Does deserve a good tutorial. and some more real-world portlets, and a few migration bits, and some UI clean-up. However, I still think it's a good idea to merge - the structure and code is stable it's only tweaks to be done and this will make it easier to progress without diverging trunk and the branch too much. PLIP 142 - Componentise the global content menu Hanno found a few minor issues, which Martin mostly debunked. Remaining items are small and can be covered after an alpha released. Most important issue is backwards compatibility with older global_contentmenu customizations. Since Plone 3.0 is scheduled to get a new UI (of limi has this ready on time) this may be a non-issue since all templates may change. +1 - getting real-world testing of weird edge cases that I may not have found is important here, too, so getting off the branch is good. PLIP 148 - Move to CMF 2.1 Raphael found some remaining TODO-items which Hanno has taken care of by now. +1 - Raphael and Hanno rock! PLIPs not ready for merging --- PLIP 48 - Use session instead of cookie plugin to store PAS authentication Old-style product, containing a lot of code to support non-PAS sites. Needs Cache-Fu updates. PLIP 112 - XML Import / Export Export is not implemented. Only supports AT-based content, Zope 3 schema based content and custom AT fields are not supported. Tests do not run. PLIP 127 - Move properties to Edit screen using pre-loaded fieldsets dhtml-schemata branch needs merging into Archetypes. Grouping of properties has not been implemented yet. The content tabs need to be refactored. I think this is important and not very hard. Who is championing this? PLIP 145 - Locking Event naming hs to be synchronized with iterate (PLIP 168). Removing a lock on set by iterate on published content should not be easily possible. Should switch to using evevnts instead of patching AT. Possible needs extra extensionpoints in AT. This is even more important, feature-wise, imho, and not that much work. Someone needs to own this. PLIP 149 - Improved Markup SUpport allowable_content_types support needs work. Handle non-installed formats properly. My impression was that there is not so much left to do here, but Tom should step up with an update if he can. PLIP 168 - integrate iterate for checkin/checkout/staging Viewing a locked front page gave an error until the page was checked in. .. and also sync with PLIP 145. Very, very keen on seeing this go in as well - the triumvirate of 8, 145, and 168 will answer some of Plone's more embarrassing deficiencies. PLIP 172 - Wiki syntax support for all content Demo content types should be disabled. Needs integration into ATContentTypes with an option to switch it on and off. Yep. Whit has said he'll be working on this before the conference, so hopefully by . PLIP 174 - More configurable and reusable i18n features TODO-items in the bundle need to be implemented. PLIP 179 - Improved commenting infrastructure Interfaces need to be updated to be more flexible. Code needs to be refactored into a plone.commenting package. Work is well on its way. PLIPs still under discussion PLIP 121 - Asynchronous loading of content views Implemented in both Bling and Azax/KSS. Needs a decision on the Ajax framework to use for Plone 3.0. PLIP 122 - Edit-in-place mode for all basic field types Implemented in both Bling and Azax/KSS. Needs a decision on the Ajax framework to use for Plone 3.0. PLIP 171 - KSS / Azax to Plone KSS/Azax are well designed and have very active developers. It is designed with developers in mind instead of copying patterns used by other frameworks. A sprint including non-azax developer has already happened, showing there is a very active group of people supporting this framework.
Re: [Framework-Team] PLIP review overview
Previously Martin Aspeli wrote: PLIP 171 - KSS / Azax to Plone KSS/Azax are well designed and have very active developers. It is designed with developers in mind instead of copying patterns used by other frameworks. A sprint including non-azax developer has already happened, showing there is a very active group of people supporting this framework. Considering Bling has not seen much activity lately and its bundle does not work this looks like the best choice. I was hoping to get a bit more feedback on what people think of the code in 'azax' and the JS in 'kukit' (bundled as part of azax), in terms of risk and maintainability. Then we should force a vote. This does need some more disucssion, but I also considered it important to at least give some signal to indicate in which direction the consensus seems to be going. It might even get Ben to fix the Bling bundle... PLIPs not yet reviewed -- PLIP 119 - Contextual help portlet This is mine, and I've kind of let the ball drop. The general state is that the design is pretty good, but it's not ready and most likely won't be unless someone steps up because David is very short of time these days. PLIP 125 - Ensuring link/reference integrity (removing 404 links) I did review this. It basically needs a bit more work from Andi around a few use cases (specifically, deleting many things at once that may be inter-related), but is progressing nicely. topp.rose also needs some updating to work with 2.10 but should then be able to slot in nicely, I hope. I noticed that a bit later, see my second post. PLIP 144 - Generalised Next / Previous navigation I did review this - it was the very first one! It needs a bit of fairly trivial refactoring/clean-up but is otherwise good, imho. Oops! I'll add it to my list. PLIP 157 - Content rules engine Rocky? :) PLIP 173 - OpenID support Didn't Hanno review this? He mailed me directly about it with a couple of comments, most of which I have addressed this week. He did run into a few nasty problems that I have not been able to reproduce, so there is some work to be done still. I haven't seen a review posted on the framework list though, that's why I put it in this list. The other thing that's not here is the new workflows that Vincenzo said he'd look at. There's no bundle, but it's just a set of new workflows + possibly a control panel. This is also quite important - Plone's OOTB workflows are a bit narrow :) Other changes such as new workflows are very welcome as long as they are not too invasive. But this was just a PLIP review list :) Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED]It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Framework-Team mailing list Framework-Team@lists.plone.org http://lists.plone.org/mailman/listinfo/framework-team
