[Frameworks] hand processing problem - remjet?
Hi, I hand processed an old roll of exposed BW 16mm film this past week. It was probably 20+ years old, in one of the old silver 100ft cans and had no film label but was marked exposed and thought I'd give it a try to see if I could get some sort of fogged image out of it or at least get some blank leader out of it. I ended up getting something more interesting. After I drained the fix out of my Lomo tank I noticed small bits of black emulsion floating in the chemistry. As I finished up and hung it to dry more of this black backing came off on my hands. I'm begining to think this was a remjet backing, possibly from a 7277 4-X film. Anyone have any advice on my results? Thx! John___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] Call for entries: San Francisco Bay Area films
Hello everyone. I am currently a student at de anza college in Cupertino , ca. I've been inspired to do a screening of experimental work from local san francisco bay area film/video makers, which can include straight experimental work, exp narrative, and exp documentary. This screening would do a lot towards educating the public, and silicon valley/south bay film and arts enthusiasts and artists as to what's going on in the sf bay. South bay filmmakers, you are given high priority. I need to make a proposal for the show ASAP, so any of you who have less than 15 min. long on a video sharing site, please send me your name, where you live, and the URL for your video/film. I'll be picking the best that I see and including it into the proposal. Send any correspondence to infiltration...@gmail.com. If you'd rather just send me a large file, www.sendspace.com is a good and free site to use. The screening will occur on the de anza college campus, as well as on local cable channels following the screening, and perhaps it will have a life online. Time is of the essence. Thanks, and I look forward to seeing all of your work! -Charles charles chadwick artist/filmmaker streaming films and other info myspace.com/chadwickfilms upcoming screenings, etc. facebook.com/chadwickfilms ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Forbes editorial about Kodak
Aaron- I know this is a few months late, my apologies on the tardiness, but I'd like to address what this thread was originally about... my problem with your original post is not that film will eventually stop being produced (this may or may not happen, and Forbes should certainly not be our proof - this issue is bigger than a business model) it was that digital cameras have surpassed the quality of most film stocks. The future of film will not be in its ability to provide more information, but rather in its antiquity, its glow, its physical and tangible characteristics, its craft, something that only celluloid can provide. When you claim the inevitable demise of film you sound like a best buy or radioshack salesman. As long as this list exists, as long as there are films being made outside of the industry, celluloid will exist. I'd like to provide a different example: screenprinting. Why has that not become obsolete? Can digital printers not produce the same result... and yet artists have found a way to encorporate the medium into contemporary printing practice. I am 22 years old, I was *RAISED *with digital and made the conscious decision to work with celluloid. I fully understand the technology, and for me, for the purposed of my art, I choose analog. It is an issue of artistry not industry. mike On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Melissa Parson melissapar...@comcast.netwrote: hey sore eyes, insults and negative facts about his art have nothing to do with his arguments or assertions. try to argue the points and resist your urge to lash out. critical analysis of art is important but that's not what this thread was about... On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Melissa melissapar...@comcast.net wrote: The FU was pretty weak in my mind. What was worse was slamming someones art work because you don't agree with their statements on technology changes etc... How are we to create community where people feel safe to have heated discussions if we get abusive. If we want more people to contribute we must think about this. Anger and passion are fine but being mean just ain't cool Sent from my Samsung Replenish But I did take a look at his Art. My eyes still sore. Pass the Visine, Sent from my Gatorade Replenish ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Forbes editorial about Kodak
Definitely good points. However, don't forget that any film stock can now be emulated, given good enough digital source material. As I said before, the moment that HDR sensors become affordable, then celluloid will be irrelevant. If you start with 20 stops of latitude in a 32-bit floating point color space, you can push or pull it wherever you want and the end result will be indistinguishable from footage shot on the stock of your choice. -- Screen printing may not be obsolete, but optical printing effectively is. A few diehards who love the medium will keep celluloid on life support forever, but the handmade stocks I've seen (Impossible Project) can't possibly compete with the quality offered by deep-pocketed corporations. When it's no longer profitable for corporations to make film stock, then artists will have to make their own stock. And it won't be as good as it was in the golden age of celluloid. -- It *is* about artistry, and sentimentality. But the art depends in large measure on the movements of global economic forces. -- Ten years ago I taught a university video production class. None of the students back then had ever seen a piece of celluloid before. Film had already effectively receded into a specialist medium. My students were amazed that it was possible to hold the film up to the light and actually see an image! They were even more shocked when I showed them a Bolex and explained to them that it was over 30 years old and had never been serviced despite fairly heavy use. A windup, clockwork mechanism built to last puts disposable plastic and silicon to shame! Truly a triumph of engineering. -- Mind you, although I don't shoot in film myself, I have collaborated with a film artist and I have a great love of celluloid. I guess the silver lining here is that film will inevitably be used for the properties that are unique to that medium. There's a kind of purity to that thought. -- Aaron At 10/8/2011, you wrote: Aaron- I know this is a few months late, my apologies on the tardiness, but I'd like to address what this thread was originally about... my problem with your original post is not that film will eventually stop being produced (this may or may not happen, and Forbes should certainly not be our proof - this issue is bigger than a business model) it was that digital cameras have surpassed the quality of most film stocks. The future of film will not be in its ability to provide more information, but rather in its antiquity, its glow, its physical and tangible characteristics, its craft, something that only celluloid can provide. When you claim the inevitable demise of film you sound like a best buy or radioshack salesman. As long as this list exists, as long as there are films being made outside of the industry, celluloid will exist. I'd like to provide a different example: screenprinting. Why has that not become obsolete? Can digital printers not produce the same result... and yet artists have found a way to encorporate the medium into contemporary printing practice. I am 22 years old, I was RAISED with digital and made the conscious decision to work with celluloid. I fully understand the technology, and for me, for the purposed of my art, I choose analog. It is an issue of artistry not industry. mike On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Melissa Parson mailto:melissapar...@comcast.netmelissapar...@comcast.net wrote: hey sore eyes, insults and negative facts about his art have nothing to do with his arguments or assertions. try to argue the points and resist your urge to lash out. critical analysis of art is important but that's not what this thread was about... On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Melissa mailto:melissapar...@comcast.netmelissapar...@comcast.net wrote: The FU was pretty weak in my mind. What was worse was slamming someones art work because you don't agree with their statements on technology changes etc... How are we to create community where people feel safe to have heated discussions if we get abusive. If we want more people to contribute we must think about this. Anger and passion are fine but being mean just ain't cool Sent from my Samsung Replenish But I did take a look at his Art. My eyes still sore. Pass the Visine, Sent from my Gatorade Replenish ___ FrameWorks mailing list mailto:FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.comFrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list mailto:FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.comFrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks --- Aaron F. Ross Digital Arts Guild
[Frameworks] Part 1 of 2: This week [October 8 - 16, 2011] in avant garde cinema
Part 1 of 2: This week [October 8 - 16, 2011] in avant garde cinema To subscribe/unsubscribe to the weekly listing, go to http://www.hi-beam.net/cgi-bin/mailto.pl?mailto=subscribe or send an email to weeklylist...@hi-beam.net. Enter your announcements (calls for entries, new work, screenings, jobs, items for sale, etc.) at: http://www.hi-beam.net/cgi-bin/ann.pl NEW FILM/VIDEO: NON-FEATURE: Field Notes: Processing the Idea of Nature in Los Angeles by kate lain http://www.hi-beam.net/cgi-bin/ann.pl?type=newworkreadfile=480.ann NEW CALLS FOR ENTRIES: = Need a creative escape?ARTErra rural artistic residency (PT) LAST VACANCIES (Tondela, Portugal; Deadline: September 24, 2011) http://www.hi-beam.net/cgi-bin/ann.pl?type=callsreadfile=1361.ann The Journal of Short Film Volume 25 (Columbus, Ohio USA; Deadline: October 28, 2011) http://www.hi-beam.net/cgi-bin/ann.pl?type=callsreadfile=1362.ann Black Maria Film + Video Festival (Jersey City, NJ, USA; Deadline: November 26, 2011) http://www.hi-beam.net/cgi-bin/ann.pl?type=callsreadfile=1363.ann Fermynwoods Contemporary Art (UK; Deadline: October 24, 2011) http://www.hi-beam.net/cgi-bin/ann.pl?type=callsreadfile=1364.ann EcoFocus Film Festival (Athens, GA USA; Deadline: October 22, 2011) http://www.hi-beam.net/cgi-bin/ann.pl?type=callsreadfile=1365.ann Magmart | international videoart festival - VII edition (Naples, Irìtaly; Deadline: February 29, 2012) http://www.hi-beam.net/cgi-bin/ann.pl?type=callsreadfile=1366.ann Best Shorts Competition (La Jolla, Ca USA; Deadline: December 16, 2011) http://www.hi-beam.net/cgi-bin/ann.pl?type=callsreadfile=1367.ann Indie Fest (La Jolla, Ca USA; Deadline: October 28, 2011) http://www.hi-beam.net/cgi-bin/ann.pl?type=callsreadfile=1368.ann Accolade Competition (La Jolla, Ca USA; Deadline: November 18, 2011) http://www.hi-beam.net/cgi-bin/ann.pl?type=callsreadfile=1369.ann DEADLINES APPROACHING: == Midnight Black Festival Of Darkness (Los Angeles CA USA; Deadline: October 08, 2011) http://www.hi-beam.net/cgi-bin/ann.pl?type=callsreadfile=1317.ann Images Festival (Toronto, Ontario, Canada; Deadline: October 17, 2011) http://www.hi-beam.net/cgi-bin/ann.pl?type=callsreadfile=1336.ann ARTErra-rural artistic residency (Tondela, Portugal; Deadline: October 31, 2011) http://www.hi-beam.net/cgi-bin/ann.pl?type=callsreadfile=1340.ann MONO NO AWARE V (Brooklyn, NY USA; Deadline: November 09, 2011) http://www.hi-beam.net/cgi-bin/ann.pl?type=callsreadfile=1357.ann The Journal of Short Film Volume 25 (Columbus, Ohio USA; Deadline: October 28, 2011) http://www.hi-beam.net/cgi-bin/ann.pl?type=callsreadfile=1362.ann Fermynwoods Contemporary Art (UK; Deadline: October 24, 2011) http://www.hi-beam.net/cgi-bin/ann.pl?type=callsreadfile=1364.ann EcoFocus Film Festival (Athens, GA USA; Deadline: October 22, 2011) http://www.hi-beam.net/cgi-bin/ann.pl?type=callsreadfile=1365.ann Indie Fest (La Jolla, Ca USA; Deadline: October 28, 2011) http://www.hi-beam.net/cgi-bin/ann.pl?type=callsreadfile=1368.ann Enter your event announcements by going to the Flicker Weekly Listing Form at http://www.hi-beam.net/cgi-bin/thisweek.pl Also available online at Flicker: http://www.hi-beam.net THIS WEEK'S PROGRAMS (SUMMARY): == * Views From the Avant Garde: Studies For the Decay of the West [October 8, New York, New York] * Views From the Avant Garde: Cabinet of Curiosities [October 8, New York, New York] * Harun Farocki Program 3: Images of the World and the Inscription of War [October 8, New York, New York] * Harun Farocki Program 1 [October 8, New York, New York] * Harun Farocki Program 6: How To Live In the Federal Republic of Germany [October 8, New York, New York] * In Comparison [October 8, New York, New York] * Harun Farocki Program 9 [October 8, New York, New York] * Views From the Avant Garde: Looking Through A Glass Onion [October 8, New York, New York] * Views From the Avant Garde: Jean-Marie Straub [October 8, New York, New York] * Views From the Avant Garde: Voluptuous Sleep [October 8, New York, New York] * Views From the Avant Garde: Daniel Eisenberg: the Unstable Object [October 8, New York, New York] * Views From the Avant Garde: Kevin Jerome Everson [October 8, New York, New York] * Views From the Avant Garde: Jerome Hiler Nathaniel Dorsky [October 8, New York, New York] * Views From the Avant Garde: John Zorn: A Film In 15 Scenes [October 8, New York, New York] * Views From the Avant Garde: George Kuchar [October 8, New York, New York] * Webmasters/Webslaves [October 8, San Francisco, California] * Dream States: the Avant-Garde of the 1940s and 1950s [October 9, Los Angeles, California] * Harun Farocki Program 6: How To Live In the Federal Republic of Germany [October 9, New York, New York] * Creators of the Shopping Worlds [October 9, New York, New York] * Harun Farocki
