Re: [Frameworks] Kuchar on the Oscars

2012-02-28 Thread Cari Machet
i was happy to see it - to a degree
it reminded me of brakhage and i miss his light
and
i remember how he could have used more funding to make more films - of course
and i am mad at the film world for not being more supportive in his lifetime

at least scorsese does some archive funding dont know if he does any
funding of people that are alive worhal does in death they fund the
living it seems and the living fund the dead

On 2/28/12, Mark Toscano fiddy...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Chuck Braverman did the Condensed Cream of Beatles thing, and was known for
 his rapid-fire montages of the '60s, at least a few of which appeared on the
 Smothers Brothers show.

 I don't believe Chuck Workman ever cuts the memorial segment, though.  The
 one year I talked to the folks doing it (2004), it was two guys whose names
 I can't remember, but who weren't working with Chuck.

 Chuck Workman frequently cuts montages for the Oscars, though.  But so do
 other folks, including Penelope Spheeris and Errol Morris, among others.

 Mark



 
  From: Pip Chodorov framewo...@re-voir.com
 To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
 Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 11:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Kuchar on the Oscars

 I understood that Chuck Workman always cuts together the Oscar
 montage - and as he just made the feature-length Visionaries on the
 experimental filmmakers around Anthology, he does know them all.
 (Though I prefered his Condensed Cream of Beatles!)
 -Pip



 At 20:50 -0800 27/02/12, Mark Toscano wrote:
Exactly.  I didn't have anything to do with it!  Which is all the
better, as it suggests that his influence has indeed permeated
enough to be on the radar of folks cutting together Oscars montages.

Mark


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[Frameworks] FREE - Absolutely FREE Film

2012-02-28 Thread Steven Gladstone
Hi:
Thanks everyone who came and got stuff.

I've 2 rolls of Super 8 7285 - still in original package.
1 unopened super 8 roll (don't know what it is)

6 (100 foot daylight load) 35mm.

One - 250 Daylitght (Vision 250D)
Four - 200 Tungsten (Vision 200T)
one - 5277 (in sealed can)

This is Free, Please come take it if you can use it.

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Re: [Frameworks] Kuchar on the Oscars

2012-02-28 Thread Adam Hyman
Hi,

Also, two years ago at least Chuck Workman took the year off from the
Oscars.  Not sure if he did this year.

Best,

Adam


On 2/27/12 11:53 PM, Mark Toscano fiddy...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Chuck Braverman did the Condensed Cream of Beatles thing, and was known for
 his rapid-fire montages of the '60s, at least a few of which appeared on the
 Smothers Brothers show.
 
 I don't believe Chuck Workman ever cuts the memorial segment, though.  The one
 year I talked to the folks doing it (2004), it was two guys whose names I
 can't remember, but who weren't working with Chuck.
 
 Chuck Workman frequently cuts montages for the Oscars, though.  But so do
 other folks, including Penelope Spheeris and Errol Morris, among others.
 
 Mark
 
 
   From: Pip Chodorov framewo...@re-voir.com
  To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
  Sent: Monday, February 27, 2012 11:46 PM
  Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Kuchar on the Oscars
   
  
 I understood that Chuck Workman always cuts together the Oscar
 montage - and as he just made the feature-length Visionaries on the
 experimental filmmakers around Anthology, he does know them all.
 (Though I preferred his Condensed Cream of Beatles!)
-Pip
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Re: [Frameworks] FREE - Absolutely FREE Film

2012-02-28 Thread Steven Gladstone
Located in Brooklyn


On 2/28/12 9:50 AM, Cait Carvalho wrote:
 Hi,

 Where are you located? I would love to take some film off your hands.
 Please contact me at ccarv...@gmail.com mailto:ccarv...@gmail.com.
 Thanks for posting!

 -Cait

 On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:06 AM, Steven Gladstone
 ste...@gladstonefilms.com mailto:ste...@gladstonefilms.com wrote:

 Hi:
 Thanks everyone who came and got stuff.

 I've 2 rolls of Super 8 7285 - still in original package.
 1 unopened super 8 roll (don't know what it is)

 6 (100 foot daylight load) 35mm.

 One - 250 Daylitght (Vision 250D)
 Four - 200 Tungsten (Vision 200T)
 one - 5277 (in sealed can)

 This is Free, Please come take it if you can use it.

 Best.
 --
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 http://www.blakehousemovie.com
 http://www.gladstonefilms.com

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Re: [Frameworks] FREE - Absolutely FREE Film

2012-02-28 Thread Steven Gladstone
On 2/28/12 12:19 PM, Cait Carvalho wrote:
 I am as well. Where about?


I'm in Carroll Gardens.

Tomorrow is best. Before 3 pm, or after 6y

What are interested in? The Super 8 or the 35mm?



 On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Steven Gladstone
 ste...@gladstonefilms.com mailto:ste...@gladstonefilms.com wrote:

 Located in Brooklyn


 On 2/28/12 9:50 AM, Cait Carvalho wrote:
   Hi,
  
   Where are you located? I would love to take some film off your hands.
   Please contact me at ccarv...@gmail.com
 mailto:ccarv...@gmail.com mailto:ccarv...@gmail.com
 mailto:ccarv...@gmail.com.
   Thanks for posting!
  
   -Cait
  
   On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:06 AM, Steven Gladstone
   ste...@gladstonefilms.com mailto:ste...@gladstonefilms.com
 mailto:ste...@gladstonefilms.com
 mailto:ste...@gladstonefilms.com wrote:
  
   Hi:
   Thanks everyone who came and got stuff.
  
   I've 2 rolls of Super 8 7285 - still in original package.
   1 unopened super 8 roll (don't know what it is)
  
   6 (100 foot daylight load) 35mm.
  
   One - 250 Daylitght (Vision 250D)
   Four - 200 Tungsten (Vision 200T)
   one - 5277 (in sealed can)
  
   This is Free, Please come take it if you can use it.
  
   Best.
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   New York Based Cinematographer
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   http://www.blakehousemovie.com
   http://www.gladstonefilms.com
  
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Re: [Frameworks] FREE - Absolutely FREE Film

2012-02-28 Thread Cait Carvalho
I'm interested in the Super 8 film and I can try and make it for after 6pm.

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Steven Gladstone ste...@gladstonefilms.com
 wrote:

 On 2/28/12 12:19 PM, Cait Carvalho wrote:
  I am as well. Where about?
 

 I'm in Carroll Gardens.

 Tomorrow is best. Before 3 pm, or after 6y

 What are interested in? The Super 8 or the 35mm?



  On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Steven Gladstone
  ste...@gladstonefilms.com mailto:ste...@gladstonefilms.com wrote:
 
  Located in Brooklyn
 
 
  On 2/28/12 9:50 AM, Cait Carvalho wrote:
Hi,
   
Where are you located? I would love to take some film off your
 hands.
Please contact me at ccarv...@gmail.com
  mailto:ccarv...@gmail.com mailto:ccarv...@gmail.com
  mailto:ccarv...@gmail.com.
Thanks for posting!
   
-Cait
   
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:06 AM, Steven Gladstone
ste...@gladstonefilms.com mailto:ste...@gladstonefilms.com
  mailto:ste...@gladstonefilms.com
  mailto:ste...@gladstonefilms.com wrote:
   
Hi:
Thanks everyone who came and got stuff.
   
I've 2 rolls of Super 8 7285 - still in original package.
1 unopened super 8 roll (don't know what it is)
   
6 (100 foot daylight load) 35mm.
   
One - 250 Daylitght (Vision 250D)
Four - 200 Tungsten (Vision 200T)
one - 5277 (in sealed can)
   
This is Free, Please come take it if you can use it.
   
Best.
--
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Gladstone films
Blog - http://indiekicker.reelgrok.com/
http://www.blakehousemovie.com
http://www.gladstonefilms.com
   
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Re: [Frameworks] FREE - Absolutely FREE Film

2012-02-28 Thread Delaney Schenker
Both but preferably the 35mm

On Tuesday, February 28, 2012, Steven Gladstone wrote:

 On 2/28/12 12:19 PM, Cait Carvalho wrote:
  I am as well. Where about?
 

 I'm in Carroll Gardens.

 Tomorrow is best. Before 3 pm, or after 6y

 What are interested in? The Super 8 or the 35mm?



  On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Steven Gladstone
  ste...@gladstonefilms.com javascript:; mailto:
 ste...@gladstonefilms.com javascript:; wrote:
 
  Located in Brooklyn
 
 
  On 2/28/12 9:50 AM, Cait Carvalho wrote:
Hi,
   
Where are you located? I would love to take some film off your
 hands.
Please contact me at ccarv...@gmail.com javascript:;
  mailto:ccarv...@gmail.com javascript:; mailto:
 ccarv...@gmail.com javascript:;
  mailto:ccarv...@gmail.com javascript:;.
Thanks for posting!
   
-Cait
   
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:06 AM, Steven Gladstone
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 ste...@gladstonefilms.com javascript:;
  mailto:ste...@gladstonefilms.com javascript:;
  mailto:ste...@gladstonefilms.com javascript:; wrote:
   
Hi:
Thanks everyone who came and got stuff.
   
I've 2 rolls of Super 8 7285 - still in original package.
1 unopened super 8 roll (don't know what it is)
   
6 (100 foot daylight load) 35mm.
   
One - 250 Daylitght (Vision 250D)
Four - 200 Tungsten (Vision 200T)
one - 5277 (in sealed can)
   
This is Free, Please come take it if you can use it.
   
Best.
--
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Re: [Frameworks] FREE - Absolutely FREE Film

2012-02-28 Thread Delaney Schenker
If I could come by tonight it would be easier because tomorrow I have work
from 830 to 630 and class from 7 to 930. Could I come by this evening
around 830 9?

On Tuesday, February 28, 2012, Cait Carvalho wrote:

 I'm interested in the Super 8 film and I can try and make it for after 6pm.

 On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Steven Gladstone 
 ste...@gladstonefilms.com wrote:

 On 2/28/12 12:19 PM, Cait Carvalho wrote:
  I am as well. Where about?
 

 I'm in Carroll Gardens.

 Tomorrow is best. Before 3 pm, or after 6y

 What are interested in? The Super 8 or the 35mm?



  On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Steven Gladstone
  ste...@gladstonefilms.com mailto:ste...@gladstonefilms.com wrote:
 
  Located in Brooklyn
 
 
  On 2/28/12 9:50 AM, Cait Carvalho wrote:
Hi,
   
Where are you located? I would love to take some film off your
 hands.
Please contact me at ccarv...@gmail.com
  mailto:ccarv...@gmail.com mailto:ccarv...@gmail.com
  mailto:ccarv...@gmail.com.
Thanks for posting!
   
-Cait
   
On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:06 AM, Steven Gladstone
ste...@gladstonefilms.com mailto:ste...@gladstonefilms.com
  mailto:ste...@gladstonefilms.com
  mailto:ste...@gladstonefilms.com wrote:
   
Hi:
Thanks everyone who came and got stuff.
   
I've 2 rolls of Super 8 7285 - still in original package.
1 unopened super 8 roll (don't know what it is)
   
6 (100 foot daylight load) 35mm.
   
One - 250 Daylitght (Vision 250D)
Four - 200 Tungsten (Vision 200T)
one - 5277 (in sealed can)
   
This is Free, Please come take it if you can use it.
   
Best.
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Re: [Frameworks] FREE - Absolutely FREE Film

2012-02-28 Thread Steven Gladstone
Somebody else wants the Super 8, so you can have the 35mm.

Can you pick it up tomorrow?

Between 10 am-3pm  or After 6 pm.

I'll send you address.

Best.



On 2/28/12 1:34 PM, Delaney Schenker wrote:
 Both but preferably the 35mm

 On Tuesday, February 28, 2012, Steven Gladstone wrote:

 On 2/28/12 12:19 PM, Cait Carvalho wrote:
   I am as well. Where about?
  

 I'm in Carroll Gardens.

 Tomorrow is best. Before 3 pm, or after 6y

 What are interested in? The Super 8 or the 35mm?



   On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Steven Gladstone
   ste...@gladstonefilms.com javascript:;
 mailto:ste...@gladstonefilms.com javascript:; wrote:
  
   Located in Brooklyn
  
  
   On 2/28/12 9:50 AM, Cait Carvalho wrote:
Hi,
   
Where are you located? I would love to take some film off your
 hands.
Please contact me at ccarv...@gmail.com javascript:;
   mailto:ccarv...@gmail.com javascript:;
 mailto:ccarv...@gmail.com javascript:;
   mailto:ccarv...@gmail.com javascript:;.
Thanks for posting!
   
-Cait
   
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 mailto:ste...@gladstonefilms.com javascript:;
   mailto:ste...@gladstonefilms.com javascript:;
   mailto:ste...@gladstonefilms.com javascript:; wrote:
   
Hi:
Thanks everyone who came and got stuff.
   
I've 2 rolls of Super 8 7285 - still in original package.
1 unopened super 8 roll (don't know what it is)
   
6 (100 foot daylight load) 35mm.
   
One - 250 Daylitght (Vision 250D)
Four - 200 Tungsten (Vision 200T)
one - 5277 (in sealed can)
   
This is Free, Please come take it if you can use it.
   
Best.
--
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Re: [Frameworks] FREE - Absolutely FREE Film

2012-02-28 Thread Steven Gladstone

I'm not going to be available tonight.


On 2/28/12 1:44 PM, Delaney Schenker wrote:
 If I could come by tonight it would be easier because tomorrow I have
 work from 830 to 630 and class from 7 to 930. Could I come by this
 evening around 830 9?

 On Tuesday, February 28, 2012, Cait Carvalho wrote:

 I'm interested in the Super 8 film and I can try and make it for
 after 6pm.

 On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Steven Gladstone
 ste...@gladstonefilms.com wrote:

 On 2/28/12 12:19 PM, Cait Carvalho wrote:
   I am as well. Where about?
  

 I'm in Carroll Gardens.

 Tomorrow is best. Before 3 pm, or after 6y

 What are interested in? The Super 8 or the 35mm?



   On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Steven Gladstone
   ste...@gladstonefilms.com
 mailto:ste...@gladstonefilms.com wrote:
  
   Located in Brooklyn
  
  
   On 2/28/12 9:50 AM, Cait Carvalho wrote:
Hi,
   
Where are you located? I would love to take some film off
 your hands.
Please contact me at ccarv...@gmail.com
   mailto:ccarv...@gmail.com mailto:ccarv...@gmail.com
   mailto:ccarv...@gmail.com.
Thanks for posting!
   
-Cait
   
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ste...@gladstonefilms.com mailto:ste...@gladstonefilms.com
   mailto:ste...@gladstonefilms.com
   mailto:ste...@gladstonefilms.com wrote:
   
Hi:
Thanks everyone who came and got stuff.
   
I've 2 rolls of Super 8 7285 - still in original package.
1 unopened super 8 roll (don't know what it is)
   
6 (100 foot daylight load) 35mm.
   
One - 250 Daylitght (Vision 250D)
Four - 200 Tungsten (Vision 200T)
one - 5277 (in sealed can)
   
This is Free, Please come take it if you can use it.
   
Best.
--
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Re: [Frameworks] Kuchar on the Oscars

2012-02-28 Thread charles chadwick
BTW, here is a link to the in memoriam montage from Saturday's Oscars:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxpN3xjDrQ0 .  George's little clip is
toward the end, plus the sound is awful, but at least it's up. It was
funny, because I talked to one of my parents and they said an experimental
filmmaker was on the Oscars. I was kind of mystified at first, but then saw
this and it made sense. The fact that they used a clip from Hold Me While
I'm Naked I found heartwarming when I saw this. Enjoy!

-charles

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 7:30 AM, Adam Hyman a...@lafilmforum.org wrote:

  Hi,

 Also, two years ago at least Chuck Workman took the year off from the
 Oscars.  Not sure if he did this year.

 Best,

 Adam



 On 2/27/12 11:53 PM, Mark Toscano fiddy...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Chuck Braverman did the Condensed Cream of Beatles thing, and was known
 for his rapid-fire montages of the '60s, at least a few of which appeared
 on the Smothers Brothers show.

 I don't believe Chuck Workman ever cuts the memorial segment, though.  The
 one year I talked to the folks doing it (2004), it was two guys whose names
 I can't remember, but who weren't working with Chuck.

 Chuck Workman frequently cuts montages for the Oscars, though.  But so do
 other folks, including Penelope Spheeris and Errol Morris, among others.

 Mark

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  *Subject:* Re: [Frameworks] Kuchar on the Oscars



 I understood that Chuck Workman always cuts together the Oscar
 montage - and as he just made the feature-length Visionaries on the
 experimental filmmakers around Anthology, he does know them all.
 (Though I preferred his Condensed Cream of Beatles!)

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Re: [Frameworks] Kuchar on the Oscars

2012-02-28 Thread Caryn Cline
I agree.  I was surprised to see Kuchar's picture up there.  They missed
Theo Angelopoulos, though.

CC

On Mon, Feb 27, 2012 at 8:35 PM, Scott Stark sst...@hi-beam.net wrote:

 It was a pleasant surprise to see George Kuchar in the memorial
 sequence in last night's Oscars.

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Re: [Frameworks] Kuchar on the Oscars

2012-02-28 Thread Jorge Lorenzo Flores Garza

Well, I don't think it's enough or fair to mention Kuchar in this montage.  
They should have given him an honorary Oscar or something.  Give him some 
credit while still alive.

 Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 08:46:22 +0100
 To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
 From: framewo...@re-voir.com
 Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Kuchar on the Oscars
 
 I understood that Chuck Workman always cuts together the Oscar 
 montage - and as he just made the feature-length Visionaries on the 
 experimental filmmakers around Anthology, he does know them all. 
 (Though I prefered his Condensed Cream of Beatles!)
 -Pip
 
 
 
 At 20:50 -0800 27/02/12, Mark Toscano wrote:
 Exactly.  I didn't have anything to do with it!  Which is all the 
 better, as it suggests that his influence has indeed permeated 
 enough to be on the radar of folks cutting together Oscars montages.
 
 Mark
 
 
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Re: [Frameworks] Kuchar on the Oscars

2012-02-28 Thread Adam Hyman
Yes ­ Owen Land, Ricky Leacock, and Jordan Belson as well.


On 2/28/12 5:47 PM, Jorge Lorenzo Flores Garza jorgelore...@hotmail.com
wrote:

 Well, I don't think it's enough or fair to mention Kuchar in this montage.
 They should have given him an honorary Oscar or something.  Give him some
 credit while still alive.
 
  Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2012 08:46:22 +0100
  To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
  From: framewo...@re-voir.com
  Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Kuchar on the Oscars
  
  I understood that Chuck Workman always cuts together the Oscar
  montage - and as he just made the feature-length Visionaries on the
  experimental filmmakers around Anthology, he does know them all.
  (Though I prefered his Condensed Cream of Beatles!)
  -Pip
  
  
  
  At 20:50 -0800 27/02/12, Mark Toscano wrote:
  Exactly.  I didn't have anything to do with it!  Which is all the
  better, as it suggests that his influence has indeed permeated
  enough to be on the radar of folks cutting together Oscars montages.

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Re: [Frameworks] Kuchar on the Oscars

2012-02-28 Thread Fred Camper
 Yes ­ Owen Land, Ricky Leacock, and Jordan Belson as well.

Oh, why not Hollis Frampton, and Stan Brakhage, and Gregory J.
Markopoulos? Or Oscars to Ernie Gehr and Bruce Baillie, who are among the
living?

Or, one might ask, how likely is any of that?

In all seriousness, am I the only one who finds the many posts in this
thread a little bizarre?

I thought it was nice when Brakhage was briefly acknowlwedged in the Oscar
montage, and it's nice when other experimental filmmakers are acknowledged
too. But when we start talking about awards, have we forgotten what the
Oscars are, and what values they represent, and how different the values
of avant-garde film are? Why should we expect, or even want, more than a
passing nod from the Academy as it is currently constituted? It's really
great that the money from the Oscar-cast goes to film preservation,
including of avant-garde work. Is there any reason to expect more?

Fred Camper
Chicago

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Re: [Frameworks] Kuchar on the Oscars

2012-02-28 Thread Beverly O'Neill
So right about this, Fred.

Beverly O'Neill
Los Angeles
On Feb 28, 2012, at 6:44 PM, Fred Camper wrote:

 Yes ­ Owen Land, Ricky Leacock, and Jordan Belson as well.
 
 Oh, why not Hollis Frampton, and Stan Brakhage, and Gregory J.
 Markopoulos? Or Oscars to Ernie Gehr and Bruce Baillie, who are among the
 living?
 
 Or, one might ask, how likely is any of that?
 
 In all seriousness, am I the only one who finds the many posts in this
 thread a little bizarre?
 
 I thought it was nice when Brakhage was briefly acknowlwedged in the Oscar
 montage, and it's nice when other experimental filmmakers are acknowledged
 too. But when we start talking about awards, have we forgotten what the
 Oscars are, and what values they represent, and how different the values
 of avant-garde film are? Why should we expect, or even want, more than a
 passing nod from the Academy as it is currently constituted? It's really
 great that the money from the Oscar-cast goes to film preservation,
 including of avant-garde work. Is there any reason to expect more?
 
 Fred Camper
 Chicago
 
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Re: [Frameworks] Kuchar on the Oscars

2012-02-28 Thread Huckleberry Lain
I do have to admit that I cannot think of anyone else in the underground,
experimental, avant-garde, what-ever-you-want-to-call-it filmmaking scene
that has had more intense, wide reaching and personal influence then the
Kuchar Brothers.  Brakhage, too, but in a way his work still seems kind of
distanced and separate from most regular cinema, movies if you will.
Brakhage's work is closer to art then movies for me (not that I like to
segregate or label in that way).  George and Mike really influenced many
generations of filmmakers and made them passionate about *making* films.
Mike told me once that he met George Lucas and Lucas shook his hand and
told him that he was a big fan of their work.
Something about them really brought movie making down to a regular level
and that empowered so many people.  It's always great to hear about and I
will miss George a lot.
Because of this I think it would make more sense to give George and Mike
extra recognition then anyone else I can think of within this.area, I
guess you could say, of cinema.

But hey, who am I?  I sure as heck am not on the Academy list.  Never made
or worked on a movie that an Academy member even saw, probably...

On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:22 PM, Beverly O'Neill bev...@earthlink.netwrote:

 So right about this, Fred.

 Beverly O'Neill
 Los Angeles
 On Feb 28, 2012, at 6:44 PM, Fred Camper wrote:

  Yes ­ Owen Land, Ricky Leacock, and Jordan Belson as well.
 
  Oh, why not Hollis Frampton, and Stan Brakhage, and Gregory J.
  Markopoulos? Or Oscars to Ernie Gehr and Bruce Baillie, who are among the
  living?
 
  Or, one might ask, how likely is any of that?
 
  In all seriousness, am I the only one who finds the many posts in this
  thread a little bizarre?
 
  I thought it was nice when Brakhage was briefly acknowlwedged in the
 Oscar
  montage, and it's nice when other experimental filmmakers are
 acknowledged
  too. But when we start talking about awards, have we forgotten what the
  Oscars are, and what values they represent, and how different the values
  of avant-garde film are? Why should we expect, or even want, more than a
  passing nod from the Academy as it is currently constituted? It's really
  great that the money from the Oscar-cast goes to film preservation,
  including of avant-garde work. Is there any reason to expect more?
 
  Fred Camper
  Chicago
 
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