Re: [Frameworks] how to power a projector mounted on a rotating device

[Scott Stark]

Thanks everyone for the excellent suggestions. I knew FW was the right place to 
ask!

Scott Stark
www.scottstark.com

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Subject: Re: [Frameworks] how to power a projector mounted on a rotating device

Scott, Jeanne and I have used many of these for video installations: 
https://www.sldlighting.com/ac-motor-turntable-with-rotating-outlet-50-lb-capacity-12-top
  Reliable.  We've ordered them with 1rpm motors.

Good luck!

j

On Jul 25, 2016, at 9:06 AM, Mani Mazinani  wrote:

> Marco's machine looks wonderful.  Toronto artist John Shipman has constructed 
> what Scott is looking for an installation using slide projectors.  It uses 
> the slip ring things mentioned previously. His website will have more 
> information and his email address as well. 
> 
> Best,
> Mani
> 
> 
> On Jul 25, 2016 07:15, "Marco Poloni"  wrote:
> Hello,
> Years ago I built some camera pan/tilt heads using 10- to 12- contacts 
> electrical slip rings to power the head, transmit positional data data 
> to the device, and collect the video signal. See pic. They work 
> fantastic. I can't recall which brand of rings I used. I later learned 
> they were a sub-contractor of Lockheed-Martin... Better to choose a 
> some supplier that is not affiliated to the military industry. Moflon 
> maybe?
> 
> My two cents.
> 
> Best,
> Marco
> 
> On 25 July 2016 at 06:12, Bryan Konefsky  wrote:
> > Hey Scott and all - regarding rotating turntables that include 
> > rotating AC - see this link:
> >
> > http://www.vuemore.com/?gclid=Cj0KEQjwztG8BRCJgseTvZLctr8BEiQAA_kBD9
> > Fw3HF-6RCdrntuK6afHo7TQApVQy3Bx_eRTy707z0aApsm8P8HAQ
> >
> > I've purchased several over the years and they are fantastic... I 
> > suspect if you add a rheostat you could also change the rpms of the unit.
> >
> > best,
> > bryan konefsky
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 24, 2016 at 8:26 PM, Karl Reinsalu  wrote:
> >>
> >> I recall a 35mm installation that used an ac cable with a pre-built 
> >> slip ring design. They built the turntable and film looper 
> >> themselves, but sourced the cable from a film industry rental 
> >> house. Might be worth an inquiry with a production house like 
> >> William F Whites or similar. Otherwise possibly an industrial electrical 
> >> parts supplier? Best of luck!
> >>
> >> __
> >> Karl Reinsalu - Cinematography
> >> "Sent from my pocket through space and time."
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jul 24, 2016 11:02 PM, "Ryder White"  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Scott,
> >>>
> >>> I've been trying to figure this out too for some time, and as far 
> >>> as I can tell you need something like this:
> >>>
> >>> https://www.sparkfun.com/products/13063
> >>>
> >>> Or any other sort of "slip ring" that is rated for sufficient current.
> >>> The issue with a turntable is you would probably have to rig your 
> >>> power supply from the top since the slip ring has to be on the 
> >>> radial axis of the platform, and underneath the turntable you'd 
> >>> have a bunch of moving parts and gak. But this is all conjecture since 
> >>> I've never followed through on it.
> >>> If anyone out there has executed something like this I would be 
> >>> really interested to see some pictures.
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>>
> >>> Ryder
> >>>
> >>> On Sunday, 24 July 2016, Scott Stark  wrote:
> 
>  Hi all, does anyone have an idea of how to supply power to a 
>  projector that’s set on a rotating device such as a turntable? Is 
>  there such a thing as a rotating power supply?
> 
> 
> 
>  I saw this – the main cylinder wouldn’t do it but the part that 
>  attaches to the wall does rotate 360, but I can’t quite figure how to 
>  make it work.
> 
> 
> 
>  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u64Kn5ENkE0
> 
> 
> 
>  Just wondering if anyone’s found a device designed for such.
> 
> 
> 
>  thanks –
> 
> 
> 
>  Scott Stark
> 
>  scottstark.com
> 
>  Experimental Response Cinema
> 
>  Flicker
> 
> 
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> Sent from mobile device, please forgive typographic errors. -RTW
> >>>
> >>>
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> > Professional product tester
> >
> > Great art has always gone to the masses, to their hopes and dreams, 
> > for that 

Re: [Frameworks] Structural Film

[Jonathan Walley]

Hey again everyone,

It looks like my first email (this morning) may not have gotten through - I 
have received a copy of “Structural Film” (actually a couple now), so, with 
many thanks to everyone who offered to send a copy (and especially to a couple 
of you who have done so), I have attained the object of my search and no longer 
need the essay.
Thanks!
JW

Dr. Jonathan Walley
Associate Professor and Chair
Department of Cinema
Denison University
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Re: [Frameworks] Structural Film

[lagonaboba]

Jonathan,

I’ve got FC#47 and could scan it for you if no one has one at hand. I’m just 
returning from 6 weeks of immersion so I can’t get to the task for a week or 
so, but if you still need it let me know.
I’m Robert Harris   lagonab...@gmail.com.

rh



On Jul 24, 2016, at 5:02 PM, Jonathan Walley  wrote:

> The Film Culture Reader version is revised, with some important additions and 
> subtractions. Only the Ur-text will do here!
> Thanks, though!
> JW 
> 
> 
>> On Jul 24, 2016, at 4:48 PM, Michael Betancourt 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> It's reprinted in the Film Culture reader anthology if that's more 
>> accessible
>> 
>> Michael Betancourt
>> Savannah, GA USA
>> 
>> 
>> michaelbetancourt.com
>> twitter.com/cinegraphic | vimeo.com/cinegraphic
>> www.cinegraphic.net | the avant-garde film & video blog
>> 
>> On Sun, Jul 24, 2016 at 2:57 PM, Jonathan Walley  wrote:
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> I’ve lost my copy of the original “Structural Film” essay, from Film Culture 
>> #47. Film Culture pre-1990s is not to be found on any research databases (at 
>> least none to which I have access), and I don’t feel like shelling out $240 
>> for the one and only used copy on amazon. Does anyone have a scanned copy 
>> they might send my way (off-list)? 
>> 
>> Thanks in advance!
>> 
>> Best,
>> Jonathan “out of summertime beach reading in a big way” Walley
>> 
>> Dr. Jonathan Walley
>> Associate Professor and Chair
>> Department of Cinema
>> Denison University
>> wall...@denison.edu
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Frameworks] Looking for rights owner of John Stehura's "Atol"

[mrktosc]

John Stehura owns it.  I preserved this film at the Academy about five years 
ago.

Mark Toscano


> On Jul 25, 2016, at 12:15 AM, Brecht Debackere  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi all, 
> 
> I’m looking for information regarding the rights of “Atol” by John Stehura? 
> Does anyone know who might own these rights? 
> 
> regards, 
> 
> Brecht.
> 
> 
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Re: [Frameworks] how to power a projector mounted on a rotating device

[John Muse]

Scott, Jeanne and I have used many of these for video installations: 
https://www.sldlighting.com/ac-motor-turntable-with-rotating-outlet-50-lb-capacity-12-top
  Reliable.  We've ordered them with 1rpm motors.

Good luck!

j

On Jul 25, 2016, at 9:06 AM, Mani Mazinani  wrote:

> Marco's machine looks wonderful.  Toronto artist John Shipman has constructed 
> what Scott is looking for an installation using slide projectors.  It uses 
> the slip ring things mentioned previously. His website will have more 
> information and his email address as well. 
> 
> Best, 
> Mani
> 
> 
> On Jul 25, 2016 07:15, "Marco Poloni"  wrote:
> Hello,
> Years ago I built some camera pan/tilt heads using 10- to 12- contacts
> electrical slip rings to power the head, transmit positional data data
> to the device, and collect the video signal. See pic. They work
> fantastic. I can't recall which brand of rings I used. I later learned
> they were a sub-contractor of Lockheed-Martin... Better to choose a
> some supplier that is not affiliated to the military industry. Moflon
> maybe?
> 
> My two cents.
> 
> Best,
> Marco
> 
> On 25 July 2016 at 06:12, Bryan Konefsky  wrote:
> > Hey Scott and all - regarding rotating turntables that include rotating AC -
> > see this link:
> >
> > http://www.vuemore.com/?gclid=Cj0KEQjwztG8BRCJgseTvZLctr8BEiQAA_kBD9Fw3HF-6RCdrntuK6afHo7TQApVQy3Bx_eRTy707z0aApsm8P8HAQ
> >
> > I've purchased several over the years and they are fantastic... I suspect if
> > you add a rheostat you could also change the rpms of the unit.
> >
> > best,
> > bryan konefsky
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 24, 2016 at 8:26 PM, Karl Reinsalu  wrote:
> >>
> >> I recall a 35mm installation that used an ac cable with a pre-built slip
> >> ring design. They built the turntable and film looper themselves, but
> >> sourced the cable from a film industry rental house. Might be worth an
> >> inquiry with a production house like William F Whites or similar. Otherwise
> >> possibly an industrial electrical parts supplier? Best of luck!
> >>
> >> __
> >> Karl Reinsalu - Cinematography
> >> "Sent from my pocket through space and time."
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jul 24, 2016 11:02 PM, "Ryder White"  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Scott,
> >>>
> >>> I've been trying to figure this out too for some time, and as far as I
> >>> can tell you need something like this:
> >>>
> >>> https://www.sparkfun.com/products/13063
> >>>
> >>> Or any other sort of "slip ring" that is rated for sufficient current.
> >>> The issue with a turntable is you would probably have to rig your power
> >>> supply from the top since the slip ring has to be on the radial axis of 
> >>> the
> >>> platform, and underneath the turntable you'd have a bunch of moving parts
> >>> and gak. But this is all conjecture since I've never followed through on 
> >>> it.
> >>> If anyone out there has executed something like this I would be really
> >>> interested to see some pictures.
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>>
> >>> Ryder
> >>>
> >>> On Sunday, 24 July 2016, Scott Stark  wrote:
> 
>  Hi all, does anyone have an idea of how to supply power to a projector
>  that’s set on a rotating device such as a turntable? Is there such a 
>  thing
>  as a rotating power supply?
> 
> 
> 
>  I saw this – the main cylinder wouldn’t do it but the part that attaches
>  to the wall does rotate 360, but I can’t quite figure how to make it 
>  work.
> 
> 
> 
>  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u64Kn5ENkE0
> 
> 
> 
>  Just wondering if anyone’s found a device designed for such.
> 
> 
> 
>  thanks –
> 
> 
> 
>  Scott Stark
> 
>  scottstark.com
> 
>  Experimental Response Cinema
> 
>  Flicker
> 
> 
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> Sent from mobile device, please forgive typographic errors. -RTW
> >>>
> >>>
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> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Bryan Konefsky
> > Professional product tester
> >
> > Great art has always gone to the masses, to their hopes and dreams, for that
> > spark that kindled their souls. The rest, "the many, all too many" as
> > Nietzsche called mediocrity, have been mere commodities that can be bought
> > with money, cheap glory, or social position.
> > - Emma Goldman
> >
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> >
> 
> 
> 
> --
> 
> 
> 
> Marco Poloni
> 

Re: [Frameworks] how to power a projector mounted on a rotating device

[Mani Mazinani]

Marco's machine looks wonderful.  Toronto artist John Shipman has
constructed what Scott is looking for an installation using slide
projectors.  It uses the slip ring things mentioned previously. His website
will have more information and his email address as well.

Best,
Mani

On Jul 25, 2016 07:15, "Marco Poloni"  wrote:

> Hello,
> Years ago I built some camera pan/tilt heads using 10- to 12- contacts
> electrical slip rings to power the head, transmit positional data data
> to the device, and collect the video signal. See pic. They work
> fantastic. I can't recall which brand of rings I used. I later learned
> they were a sub-contractor of Lockheed-Martin... Better to choose a
> some supplier that is not affiliated to the military industry. Moflon
> maybe?
>
> My two cents.
>
> Best,
> Marco
>
> On 25 July 2016 at 06:12, Bryan Konefsky  wrote:
> > Hey Scott and all - regarding rotating turntables that include rotating
> AC -
> > see this link:
> >
> >
> http://www.vuemore.com/?gclid=Cj0KEQjwztG8BRCJgseTvZLctr8BEiQAA_kBD9Fw3HF-6RCdrntuK6afHo7TQApVQy3Bx_eRTy707z0aApsm8P8HAQ
> >
> > I've purchased several over the years and they are fantastic... I
> suspect if
> > you add a rheostat you could also change the rpms of the unit.
> >
> > best,
> > bryan konefsky
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 24, 2016 at 8:26 PM, Karl Reinsalu 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I recall a 35mm installation that used an ac cable with a pre-built slip
> >> ring design. They built the turntable and film looper themselves, but
> >> sourced the cable from a film industry rental house. Might be worth an
> >> inquiry with a production house like William F Whites or similar.
> Otherwise
> >> possibly an industrial electrical parts supplier? Best of luck!
> >>
> >> __
> >> Karl Reinsalu - Cinematography
> >> "Sent from my pocket through space and time."
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jul 24, 2016 11:02 PM, "Ryder White"  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Scott,
> >>>
> >>> I've been trying to figure this out too for some time, and as far as I
> >>> can tell you need something like this:
> >>>
> >>> https://www.sparkfun.com/products/13063
> >>>
> >>> Or any other sort of "slip ring" that is rated for sufficient current.
> >>> The issue with a turntable is you would probably have to rig your power
> >>> supply from the top since the slip ring has to be on the radial axis
> of the
> >>> platform, and underneath the turntable you'd have a bunch of moving
> parts
> >>> and gak. But this is all conjecture since I've never followed through
> on it.
> >>> If anyone out there has executed something like this I would be really
> >>> interested to see some pictures.
> >>>
> >>> Best,
> >>>
> >>> Ryder
> >>>
> >>> On Sunday, 24 July 2016, Scott Stark  wrote:
> 
>  Hi all, does anyone have an idea of how to supply power to a projector
>  that’s set on a rotating device such as a turntable? Is there such a
> thing
>  as a rotating power supply?
> 
> 
> 
>  I saw this – the main cylinder wouldn’t do it but the part that
> attaches
>  to the wall does rotate 360, but I can’t quite figure how to make it
> work.
> 
> 
> 
>  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u64Kn5ENkE0
> 
> 
> 
>  Just wondering if anyone’s found a device designed for such.
> 
> 
> 
>  thanks –
> 
> 
> 
>  Scott Stark
> 
>  scottstark.com
> 
>  Experimental Response Cinema
> 
>  Flicker
> 
> 
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>>
> >>> Sent from mobile device, please forgive typographic errors. -RTW
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ___
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> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Bryan Konefsky
> > Professional product tester
> >
> > Great art has always gone to the masses, to their hopes and dreams, for
> that
> > spark that kindled their souls. The rest, "the many, all too many" as
> > Nietzsche called mediocrity, have been mere commodities that can be
> bought
> > with money, cheap glory, or social position.
> > - Emma Goldman
> >
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[Frameworks] Structural Film - mission accomplished

[Jonathan Walley]

Hello again everybody,

I have “Structural Film” now - many thanks to Eric Theise. And thanks to those 
of you who volunteered to scan and send me their copies, which will no longer 
be necessary.

All best,
JW

Dr. Jonathan Walley
Associate Professor and Chair
Department of Cinema
Denison University
wall...@denison.edu



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[Frameworks] Looking for rights owner of John Stehura's "Atol"

[Brecht Debackere]

Hi all, 

I’m looking for information regarding the rights of “Atol” by John Stehura? 
Does anyone know who might own these rights? 

regards, 

Brecht.


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