Re: [Frameworks] Support My New Kickstarter project

[Dominic Angerame]

On your google page you are called Doug Graves. Are you Doug Tolstoy, Doug
Graves or Doug Chapin. I just do not get it! Sorry. And the images posted
seem to be by Bruce Baillie and any mis representation of his films is a
copy right violation.

On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 7:09 PM, Doug Chaffin("Douglas Graves") <
dgtols...@yahoo.com> wrote:

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> Pure Cinema Celluloid
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> Pure Cinema Celluloid
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> Prove you're not a completely useless, unsupportive "non-community" of old
> cranks & send money to me for my next movie & to save my life!
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> Sincerely,
> Doug Graves
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> 702-580-4293
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> dgtols...@yahoo.com
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Re: [Frameworks] new website for irish experimental film!

[Pontuti, Kevin]

Very cool! Thanks for sharing!


Kevin Pontuti

Associate Professor

School of Art and Design

University of Wisconsin-Stout

Menomonie, WI 54751

pontu...@uwstout.edu





From: FrameWorks  on behalf of ev 
petrol 
Sent: Friday, October 21, 2016 1:47 PM
To: Experimental Film Discussion List
Subject: [Frameworks] new website for irish experimental film!

http://www.mexindex.ie/
MExIndex - MExIndex
www.mexindex.ie
About MExIndex. MExIndex is a searchable online database with free access to 
key information and writing on experimental and visual arts-based moving image 
works by ...



lotsa good stuff on there ... vivienne dick, julie murray, pat murphy, beckett, 
cathal black, joe comerford ...
cheers moira

moiratierney.net vimeo.com/moiratierney



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[Frameworks] SD to HD up-res quote?

[ev petrol]

hey folksdoing up a budget and wondering where to go for an up-res quote - 
anyone have any leads?cheers moira moiratierney.net vimeo.com/moiratierney


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Re: [Frameworks] Support my new Kickstarter project for my new great 16mm motion picture!

[Brecht Debackere]

Dear Doug, 

I’m not sure that insults will move people to open their wallets. The amount of 
options for people to spend their ‘disposable income’ is huge and in your 
kickstarter you fail to give people any reason why they should spend it on 
you/your film. 
You blow your own horn, but you fail to substantiate the superlatives you use 
to describe yourself. Why was your previous film ‘great’? Are there any 
reviews? Was it shown in any festivals or other places? Did it win any awards? 
Can we see it somewhere and maybe judge for ourselves? 
Furthermore you fail to tell us anything about the film you want to make except 
for its title. The money you aks is apparently needed to financially support 
you and to allow you to buy equipement. You then go on to try to elicit 
sympathy and pity in an attempt to bring people to fork out the cash. 
Your Kickstarter campaign further fails to allow anyone to give you a small 
amount as you only give the option for 500$ and 1000$. If you’re begging for 
cash, which is what you’re doing, you’re not encouraging potential backers at 
all, but you have the audacity to claim that people are unsupportive/ not 
encouraging: "Prove you're not a completely useless, unsupportive 
"non-community" of old cranks & send money to me for my next movie & to save my 
life!"

"I'm always respectful & compliment everyone who doesn't know me” 
vs. 
"if they don't care about me or my motion pictures then fuck them.” /  "lame, 
unsupportive, non-nurturing excuse for a community” /  “Almost everyone is a 
whiney old loser or just non-communicative & non-responsive"


regards and fuck you too! 

Brecht
 

> On 16 Oct 2016, at 01:03, Doug Chaffin(Douglas Graves)  
> wrote:
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> In the last 8 years I have been continually disappointed by almost everyone 
> I've met in this lame, unsupportive, non-nurturing excuse for a community. 
> Almost everyone is a whiney old loser or just non-communicative & 
> non-responsive. 
> 
> No one is like Will Hindle, Stan Brakhage, Ed Emshwiller. or other great 
> legends who were very generous & inspiring to other movie makers in this 
> field. The people now have all been petty, rude, or just plain cold to me. 
> I'm always respectful & compliment everyone who doesn't know me in my 
> introductory letter or meeting. So there's no excuse for their awful attitude.
> And if they don't care about me or my motion pictures then fuck them.
> 
> Again, support my project! 
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> Pure Cinema Celluloid 
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