Hey Colin,

I don’t have any measurement devices and honestly I’ve never kept track of my 
development times for this stock since I was told about this 
process-to-completion early on. I’ve mostly processed short strands less than 
20’/7m in large paper developing trays as negative under a red safe light and 
just watched it until it looked ‘done’. I’ve done a lot of contact prints under 
a photo enlarger, bi-packing and shooting off-the-screen with it, but never as 
a camera stock. Based on visual inspection I’ve noticed it to be done when it’s 
done and will reiterate that it’s *probably* more about the exposure and 
developer than the development time.

If you’re mixing your own D-19 you could try Dektol/D-72, it’s all the same 
chems at different quantities according to my sources:

D-72 Dektol

Water at 125F/52C, 750.0 ml
Metol, 3.0 g
Sodium sulfite, 45.0 g
Hydroquinone, 12.0 g
Sodium carbonate, monohydrate, 80.0 g
Potassium bromide, 2.0 g
Water to make 1.0 liter

D-19

Metol, 2.0 g
Sodium sulfite, 90.0 g
Hydroquinone, 8.0 g
Sodium carbonate, monohydrate, 52.5 g (45 g anhydrous)
Potassium bromide, 5.0 g
Water to make 1.0 liter

I’m slightly skeptical of the order as I’ve been mixing a lot of D-96 lately 
and usually mix part of the sodium sulfite in first to prevent oxidization from 
either the Calgon and/or Metol (not sure, and full disclosure that I also 
failed chemistry all those years ago). 

I have some of this stock, a camera and bleach. If I can I’ll test it out soon 
at let you know! 

Cheers,
Chris

> On Apr 25, 2018, at 03:41, Colin Brant <colinsbr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Thank y'all for these responses!
> 
> Seth, that is a great resource to know about, thanks for sending the link!
> 
> Chris, I'm very curious about this idea that 7363 is "process to completion"! 
> Are you saying that when it is "done" it's done and any extra time in the 
> developer will not affect density? Just curious because I've heard of that 
> for Fix but never for developer. The Kodak tech sheet, in regard to developer 
> time, says "develope to recommended control gamma" which is defined as 2.90 
> to 3.20. 
> 
> Jason, my next tests are going to be at ASA 25... we'll see what happens : )
> 
> Thanks again! 
> Cin cin,
> cb
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 11:55 PM, Jason Halprin <jihalp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Oh, and I seem to recall a friend stating that they rated 7363 as ISO 25, 
>> and developed in D-19 1:1 for 9 minutes (as neg, spaghetti-bucket)
>> 
>> Jason Halprin
>> jihalp...@gmail.com
>> jasonhalprin.com
>> 
>>> On Mon, Apr 23, 2018 at 11:54 PM, Jason Halprin <jihalp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> For what it's worth, I shoot 7363 rated at ISO 6, and develop as neg in 
>>> Dektol 4:1 for 90 sec (spaghetti-bucket method).
>>> 
>>> -JH
>>> 
>>> Jason Halprin
>>> jihalp...@gmail.com
>>> jasonhalprin.com
>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Apr 21, 2018 at 6:03 AM, Chris G <spy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Generally when I want to get a broader tonal range with 7363 I process it 
>>>> in a paper developer like Dektol. I used Sprint paper developer sometimes 
>>>> too. Never tried this with reversal though. The film is process to 
>>>> completion so you can’t really overdevelop it. For less contrast you could 
>>>> also try a lower concentration of developer. 
>>>> 
>>>> Chris Gorski
>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 21, 2018, at 01:57, Dominic Angerame <dominic.anger...@gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I use this stock all the time I have it processed as reversal and rate it 
>>>>> anywhere between 10 or 12 asa i send processing out to a lab the stock is 
>>>>> tricky because it has very few greys if you want to sell any let me know 
>>>>> I still film with it contact me off sight for other tips 
>>>>> domi...@cinemod.net
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Apr 20, 2018, at 3:52 PM, Isaac Brooks <isaacbrook...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> For the D19 treatment/negative I've rated it at a 25 ASA with consistent 
>>>>>> results. If you have sealed D19, use it with that film. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Isaac 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at 5:30 PM Colin Brant <colinsbr...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Dear Frameworks,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I am having trouble finding consensus on how to shoot and process 
>>>>>>> Kodak's now discontinued 7363 hi-con stock. I bought a bunch from the 
>>>>>>> last run they did (2015 I believe) and am now starting to shoot it. I 
>>>>>>> know that there have been threads that address this in the past (one 
>>>>>>> even came up in a google search) and that this issue, or similar ones, 
>>>>>>> are touched on in books like Kathryn Ramey's textbook -- but even so, 
>>>>>>> I'm still left wondering how to rate it, and how to leave it in 
>>>>>>> developer. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> My desire: shoot 7363 in daylight, develope in Lomo tank without 
>>>>>>> push/pull in D19 as B&W Neg.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> In the first test I did, it was shot at 6ASA and developed for about 
>>>>>>> 6min and this resulted in a mostly overexposed negative. Also, I'm most 
>>>>>>> familiar with D19 so am not sure if there might be other equivalent 
>>>>>>> developers requiring the same timing that could give me an idea of 
>>>>>>> where to begin. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Any insight y'all may have would be greatly appreciated!
>>>>>>> cb
>>>>>>> 
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