Re: [Frameworks] Ektachrome RIP????
On 3/2/12 3:23 PM, john warren wrote: Color reversal lives on in motion picture. I just received this note from Kodak: Yesterday, Kodak announced the discontinuance of its three Kodak Professional EKTACHROME and ELITE Chrome Films. This news does not affect our ability to supply 5285 and 7285 color reversal motion picture film products to our customers. Does anyone remember Ektar - slide film. O I disliked that film. -- Steven Gladstone New York Based Cinematographer Gladstone films Blog - http://indiekicker.reelgrok.com/ http://www.blakehousemovie.com http://www.gladstonefilms.com 917-886-5858 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] FREE - Absolutely FREE Film
Hi: Thanks everyone who came and got stuff. I've 2 rolls of Super 8 7285 - still in original package. 1 unopened super 8 roll (don't know what it is) 6 (100 foot daylight load) 35mm. One - 250 Daylitght (Vision 250D) Four - 200 Tungsten (Vision 200T) one - 5277 (in sealed can) This is Free, Please come take it if you can use it. Best. -- Steven Gladstone New York Based Cinematographer Gladstone films Blog - http://indiekicker.reelgrok.com/ http://www.blakehousemovie.com http://www.gladstonefilms.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] FREE - Absolutely FREE Film
Located in Brooklyn On 2/28/12 9:50 AM, Cait Carvalho wrote: Hi, Where are you located? I would love to take some film off your hands. Please contact me at ccarv...@gmail.com mailto:ccarv...@gmail.com. Thanks for posting! -Cait On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:06 AM, Steven Gladstone ste...@gladstonefilms.com mailto:ste...@gladstonefilms.com wrote: Hi: Thanks everyone who came and got stuff. I've 2 rolls of Super 8 7285 - still in original package. 1 unopened super 8 roll (don't know what it is) 6 (100 foot daylight load) 35mm. One - 250 Daylitght (Vision 250D) Four - 200 Tungsten (Vision 200T) one - 5277 (in sealed can) This is Free, Please come take it if you can use it. Best. -- Steven Gladstone New York Based Cinematographer Gladstone films Blog - http://indiekicker.reelgrok.com/ http://www.blakehousemovie.com http://www.gladstonefilms.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com mailto:FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- Steven Gladstone New York Based Cinematographer Gladstone films Blog - http://indiekicker.reelgrok.com/ http://www.blakehousemovie.com http://www.gladstonefilms.com 917-886-5858 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] FREE - Absolutely FREE Film
On 2/28/12 12:19 PM, Cait Carvalho wrote: I am as well. Where about? I'm in Carroll Gardens. Tomorrow is best. Before 3 pm, or after 6y What are interested in? The Super 8 or the 35mm? On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Steven Gladstone ste...@gladstonefilms.com mailto:ste...@gladstonefilms.com wrote: Located in Brooklyn On 2/28/12 9:50 AM, Cait Carvalho wrote: Hi, Where are you located? I would love to take some film off your hands. Please contact me at ccarv...@gmail.com mailto:ccarv...@gmail.com mailto:ccarv...@gmail.com mailto:ccarv...@gmail.com. Thanks for posting! -Cait On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:06 AM, Steven Gladstone ste...@gladstonefilms.com mailto:ste...@gladstonefilms.com mailto:ste...@gladstonefilms.com mailto:ste...@gladstonefilms.com wrote: Hi: Thanks everyone who came and got stuff. I've 2 rolls of Super 8 7285 - still in original package. 1 unopened super 8 roll (don't know what it is) 6 (100 foot daylight load) 35mm. One - 250 Daylitght (Vision 250D) Four - 200 Tungsten (Vision 200T) one - 5277 (in sealed can) This is Free, Please come take it if you can use it. Best. -- Steven Gladstone New York Based Cinematographer Gladstone films Blog - http://indiekicker.reelgrok.com/ http://www.blakehousemovie.com http://www.gladstonefilms.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com mailto:FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com mailto:FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com mailto:FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com mailto:FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- Steven Gladstone New York Based Cinematographer Gladstone films Blog - http://indiekicker.reelgrok.com/ http://www.blakehousemovie.com http://www.gladstonefilms.com 917-886-5858 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com mailto:FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- Steven Gladstone New York Based Cinematographer Gladstone films Blog - http://indiekicker.reelgrok.com/ http://www.blakehousemovie.com http://www.gladstonefilms.com 917-886-5858 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] FREE - Absolutely FREE Film
Somebody else wants the Super 8, so you can have the 35mm. Can you pick it up tomorrow? Between 10 am-3pm or After 6 pm. I'll send you address. Best. On 2/28/12 1:34 PM, Delaney Schenker wrote: Both but preferably the 35mm On Tuesday, February 28, 2012, Steven Gladstone wrote: On 2/28/12 12:19 PM, Cait Carvalho wrote: I am as well. Where about? I'm in Carroll Gardens. Tomorrow is best. Before 3 pm, or after 6y What are interested in? The Super 8 or the 35mm? On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Steven Gladstone ste...@gladstonefilms.com javascript:; mailto:ste...@gladstonefilms.com javascript:; wrote: Located in Brooklyn On 2/28/12 9:50 AM, Cait Carvalho wrote: Hi, Where are you located? I would love to take some film off your hands. Please contact me at ccarv...@gmail.com javascript:; mailto:ccarv...@gmail.com javascript:; mailto:ccarv...@gmail.com javascript:; mailto:ccarv...@gmail.com javascript:;. Thanks for posting! -Cait On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:06 AM, Steven Gladstone ste...@gladstonefilms.com javascript:; mailto:ste...@gladstonefilms.com javascript:; mailto:ste...@gladstonefilms.com javascript:; mailto:ste...@gladstonefilms.com javascript:; wrote: Hi: Thanks everyone who came and got stuff. I've 2 rolls of Super 8 7285 - still in original package. 1 unopened super 8 roll (don't know what it is) 6 (100 foot daylight load) 35mm. One - 250 Daylitght (Vision 250D) Four - 200 Tungsten (Vision 200T) one - 5277 (in sealed can) This is Free, Please come take it if you can use it. Best. -- Steven Gladstone New York Based Cinematographer Gladstone films Blog - http://indiekicker.reelgrok.com/ http://www.blakehousemovie.com http://www.gladstonefilms.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com javascript:; mailto:FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com javascript:; mailto:FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com javascript:; mailto:FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com javascript:; https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com javascript:; mailto:FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com javascript:; https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- Steven Gladstone New York Based Cinematographer Gladstone films Blog - http://indiekicker.reelgrok.com/ http://www.blakehousemovie.com http://www.gladstonefilms.com 917-886-5858 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com javascript:; mailto:FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com javascript:; https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com javascript:; https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- Steven Gladstone New York Based Cinematographer Gladstone films Blog - http://indiekicker.reelgrok.com/ http://www.blakehousemovie.com http://www.gladstonefilms.com 917-886-5858 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com javascript:; https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- Delaney Schenker (352) 895-8408 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- Steven Gladstone New York Based Cinematographer Gladstone films Blog - http://indiekicker.reelgrok.com/ http://www.blakehousemovie.com http://www.gladstonefilms.com 917-886-5858 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] FREE - Absolutely FREE Film
I'm not going to be available tonight. On 2/28/12 1:44 PM, Delaney Schenker wrote: If I could come by tonight it would be easier because tomorrow I have work from 830 to 630 and class from 7 to 930. Could I come by this evening around 830 9? On Tuesday, February 28, 2012, Cait Carvalho wrote: I'm interested in the Super 8 film and I can try and make it for after 6pm. On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Steven Gladstone ste...@gladstonefilms.com wrote: On 2/28/12 12:19 PM, Cait Carvalho wrote: I am as well. Where about? I'm in Carroll Gardens. Tomorrow is best. Before 3 pm, or after 6y What are interested in? The Super 8 or the 35mm? On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 12:11 PM, Steven Gladstone ste...@gladstonefilms.com mailto:ste...@gladstonefilms.com wrote: Located in Brooklyn On 2/28/12 9:50 AM, Cait Carvalho wrote: Hi, Where are you located? I would love to take some film off your hands. Please contact me at ccarv...@gmail.com mailto:ccarv...@gmail.com mailto:ccarv...@gmail.com mailto:ccarv...@gmail.com. Thanks for posting! -Cait On Tue, Feb 28, 2012 at 9:06 AM, Steven Gladstone ste...@gladstonefilms.com mailto:ste...@gladstonefilms.com mailto:ste...@gladstonefilms.com mailto:ste...@gladstonefilms.com wrote: Hi: Thanks everyone who came and got stuff. I've 2 rolls of Super 8 7285 - still in original package. 1 unopened super 8 roll (don't know what it is) 6 (100 foot daylight load) 35mm. One - 250 Daylitght (Vision 250D) Four - 200 Tungsten (Vision 200T) one - 5277 (in sealed can) This is Free, Please come take it if you can use it. Best. -- Steven Gladstone New York Based Cinematographer Gladstone films Blog - http://indiekicker.reelgrok.com/ http://www.blakehousemovie.com http://www.gladstonefilms.com ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com mailto:FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com mailto:FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com mailto:FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list -- Delaney Schenker (352) 895-8408 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- Steven Gladstone New York Based Cinematographer Gladstone films Blog - http://indiekicker.reelgrok.com/ http://www.blakehousemovie.com http://www.gladstonefilms.com 917-886-5858 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] Other gear
Sorry to bug you again, but I found a small box with Projector Belts, a few rubber, but mostly the spring metal kind. A couple of smallish glass transistors with 7 pins, a small package of Baia 8mm splicing tapes, and even a few Recotron 400 needles. Figure someone on these two lists could use this, and I'd like to see it go to a good home. Free, please come get. I'm in Brooklyn, N.Y. Best. -- Steven Gladstone New York Based Cinematographer Gladstone films Blog - http://indiekicker.reelgrok.com/ http://www.blakehousemovie.com http://www.gladstonefilms.com 917-886-5858 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Film Stuff - Free or Nearly so
Probably too much. Yep, I'm in Brooklyn NY. Best. On 2/22/12 8:33 AM, Amy Dickson wrote: Steven where are you based? - the states i imagine? Im in London but would like the changing bag and splicer - wonder how much postage would be? Amy On 22 February 2012 06:16, Steven Gladstone ste...@gladstonefilms.com mailto:ste...@gladstonefilms.com wrote: Hey okay, so I'm getting rid of a bunch of film gear and such that is superfluous to my continued existence - My wife will kill me if I try to take it with me when we move. Please check out the list at: http://www.gladstonefilms.com/GEAR_For_Free_or_Nearly_Free.html Available This Thursday, Friday and MONDAY. Please respond to me directly if interested. Thanks -- Steven Gladstone New York Based Cinematographer Gladstone films Blog - http://indiekicker.reelgrok.com/ http://www.blakehousemovie.com http://www.gladstonefilms.com 917-886-5858 tel:917-886-5858 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com mailto:FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- Amy Amy Dickson Visual Communications Royal Collage of Art London +4407810574625 http://amy.dickson.co.uk ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- Steven Gladstone New York Based Cinematographer Gladstone films Blog - http://indiekicker.reelgrok.com/ http://www.blakehousemovie.com http://www.gladstonefilms.com 917-886-5858 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] Film Stuff - Free or Nearly so
Hey okay, so I'm getting rid of a bunch of film gear and such that is superfluous to my continued existence - My wife will kill me if I try to take it with me when we move. Please check out the list at: http://www.gladstonefilms.com/GEAR_For_Free_or_Nearly_Free.html Available This Thursday, Friday and MONDAY. Please respond to me directly if interested. Thanks -- Steven Gladstone New York Based Cinematographer Gladstone films Blog - http://indiekicker.reelgrok.com/ http://www.blakehousemovie.com http://www.gladstonefilms.com 917-886-5858 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] What to do with one roll of nitrate film?
On 2/18/12 5:55 PM, John Woods wrote: While its certainly flammable and should be treated with caution I think there is a lot of misinformation about the danger of nitrate film http://www.horschamp.qc.ca/new_offscreen/dangerous_film.html My Uncle was a Union projectionist back in the day - mostly standby. He told me that one night he was going to project a roll of nitrate and was told that if it caught fire just to leave the booth. My understanding is that the fumes turn to Acid in your lungs. In any case, if you look at old projection booths, they are build to be fireproof, that is with fire doors and panels that slide over the projection windows. The idea being to contain the fire within the booth. This stems from the days of Nitrate - I believe. -- Steven Gladstone New York Based Cinematographer Gladstone films Blog - http://indiekicker.reelgrok.com/ http://www.blakehousemovie.com http://www.gladstonefilms.com 917-886-5858 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] Sundry film stuff for the asking
I'm going to be getting rid of a bunch of stuff, even a 16mm viewer and 35mm sync block. Including a Redlake Hycam, and a big box of OCN - People used to use that for SLUG didn't they? You can read about it here: http://indiekicker.reelgrok.com/?p=827 This will happen next week, and I'm happy to get it off my hands and not in the trash. If anyone has suggestions about the OCN (both color and Black and White) and film prints. Please send them along. Thanks. -- Steven Gladstone New York Based Cinematographer Gladstone films Blog - http://indiekicker.reelgrok.com/ http://www.blakehousemovie.com http://www.gladstonefilms.com 917-886-5858 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Sundry film stuff for the asking
Forgot to mention I'm in Brooklyn, N.Y. On 2/14/12 1:49 PM, Steven Gladstone wrote: I'm going to be getting rid of a bunch of stuff, even a 16mm viewer and 35mm sync block. Including a Redlake Hycam, and a big box of OCN - People used to use that for SLUG didn't they? You can read about it here: http://indiekicker.reelgrok.com/?p=827 This will happen next week, and I'm happy to get it off my hands and not in the trash. If anyone has suggestions about the OCN (both color and Black and White) and film prints. Please send them along. Thanks. -- Steven Gladstone New York Based Cinematographer Gladstone films Blog - http://indiekicker.reelgrok.com/ http://www.blakehousemovie.com http://www.gladstonefilms.com 917-886-5858 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] seeking double perf film
On 1/23/12 6:21 PM, Myron Ort wrote: double perf versus double 8mm I always thought you could shoot double 8mm in 16mm, and when it was processed you would just have an extra set of unused perfs (might be a problem with frame lines if you were off by a perf.) I never tried it, so I might be wrong, but I thought the perfs were the same size. On another note. I have a Redlake Hycam, and would really be happy if someone wanted to come take it off my hands. While I'd prefer a 501C for tax purposes, in the end I'd like it to go to a good home that would use it. I'm located in Brooklyn, N.Y. -- Steven Gladstone New York Based Cinematographer Gladstone films Blog - http://indiekicker.reelgrok.com/ http://www.blakehousemovie.com http://www.gladstonefilms.com 917-886-5858 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] DVD to 16mm
On 1/17/12 6:36 PM, Philippe Leonard wrote: Just shoot it with any film camera pointed to an LCD screen such as you computer's. This does work, but is not perfect. The reason you don't get the dreaded roll bar on an LCD screen is because the pixels are always on. Granted there is a florescent light source for the LCD. On a CRT, the picture is written on, and then blanked, before the next image is written on to the screen. This is done alternating lines, first odd lines (1,3,5,7,9,11 - 525) then even (2,4,6,8,10-524.) So the image is broken into two fields - running at 59.94. So since the camera is running at 24, the roll bar is the shifting blanking interval. With an LCD screen, although you don't see the big nasty roll bar, there is a small sizzling line that passes through the image. If you can get a hold of The Arri 35 Book (Jon Fauer) there is a great section on shooting off a TV screen. -- Steven Gladstone New York Based Cinematographer Gladstone films Blog - http://indiekicker.reelgrok.com/ http://www.blakehousemovie.com http://www.gladstonefilms.com 917-886-5858 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] 16mm stills in LA
On 1/4/12 1:38 AM, william santen wrote: I do not have experience with a DSLR and slide duper- After some research- a flatbed scanner seems to be the best choice for the digital route- I tried that once, very unhappy with the results. Even at 2400 pixels per inch, a 16mm frame gives you what? Roughly 970 by 707 pixels. Not all that high. There is a Nikon Cool scan product that I believe has an attachment that projects a frame onto the scanner. Can't remember the info. ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Camera Recommendation
On 12/23/11 6:21 AM, Kevin Timmins wrote: The dvx records progressive not just interlaced so you get away from those interlaced frames. I think you might get a couple of interlaced frames for NTSC because of the 60i to 24p thing. If you shoot 24P advanced on the DVX-100, it becomes much simpler to remove the interlaced frames in software editing programs to end up with 24 fps to edit with. -- Steven Gladstone New York Based Cinematographer Gladstone films Blog - http://indiekicker.reelgrok.com/ http://www.blakehousemovie.com http://www.gladstonefilms.com 917-886-5858 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Single 8 processing
On 12/22/11 11:01 AM, Pablo Marin wrote: Thanks Ed, but I'm referring to Single 8 : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-8 Isn't Single 8 the same format as Super 8, just packaged differently? -- Steven Gladstone New York Based Cinematographer Gladstone films Blog - http://indiekicker.reelgrok.com/ http://www.blakehousemovie.com http://www.gladstonefilms.com 917-886-5858 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Hi-8 equipment
On 12/9/11 6:04 PM, Sandra Maliga wrote: I have a sony Hi-8 camcorder I bought at a sale at the public access studios in Minneapolis but it is no longer working. I'd like to transfer many hours of Hi-8 and 8mm video to digital via my mini DV deck. Anyone in LA have Hi-8 video gear lying around for loan, rental or sale? My understanding is that Digital 8 gear will also play back Hi-8 -- Steven Gladstone New York Based Cinematographer Gladstone films Blog - http://indiekicker.reelgrok.com/ http://www.blakehousemovie.com http://www.gladstonefilms.com 917-886-5858 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Hi-8 equipment
On 12/9/11 6:22 PM, Flick Harrison wrote: You can also use a Digital-8 (D8) camera to do this. It will should play back Hi 8 tapes and send them through firewire in the same format as DV; i.e. DV NTSC 720x480 29.97fps 48KHz sound. Probably easier than running a Hi8 cam through a DV cam. Make sure you set the sound to 48 khz, i think 32khz is the other option which can cause hiccups in video timelines. Ugghh 32 khz, also known as 12 bit. Because the cam manufacturers wanted you to be able to over dub in the camera. Nothing but headaches and out of sync woes. 16bit, 48Khz for sound in DV cameras. -- Steven Gladstone New York Based Cinematographer Gladstone films Blog - http://indiekicker.reelgrok.com/ http://www.blakehousemovie.com http://www.gladstonefilms.com 917-886-5858 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] 16mm Camara
Hi, the big question is what is important to you? Sync Sound, or features like being able to do single frame and rewind in camera. Also, do you want to work with 100 daylight loads or 400 foot? How important is hand holdability? On 11/27/11 6:20 AM, Kevin Timmins wrote: Hi, I have used super 8 for a while now and was thinking about getting a 16mm camera. I just wondered if some folks could throw out some models and makes that I could look into. And projectors :) Thanks Kevin ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- Steven Gladstone New York Based Cinematographer Gladstone films Blog - http://indiekicker.reelgrok.com/ http://www.blakehousemovie.com http://www.gladstonefilms.com 917-886-5858 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] 35mm film will be dead by 2015 and News Corp
On 11/22/11 3:32 PM, Aaron F. Ross wrote: (Frankenstein's monster voice) Video bad! Film good! Grrr! GRR! :-) -- Steven Gladstone New York Based Cinematographer Gladstone films Blog - http://indiekicker.reelgrok.com/ http://www.blakehousemovie.com http://www.gladstonefilms.com 917-886-5858 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] 35mm film will be dead by 2015 and News Corp
On 11/21/11 9:24 PM, Steven Gladstone wrote: I think Imax may use some other system to transport the film I meant IMAX projectors. -- Steven Gladstone New York Based Cinematographer Gladstone films Blog - http://indiekicker.reelgrok.com/ http://www.blakehousemovie.com http://www.gladstonefilms.com 917-886-5858 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] 35mm film will be dead by 2015 and News Corp
On 11/17/11 6:06 PM, Fred Camper wrote: VHS wrecked the aesthetic of many, if not most, films. There are perhaps some films whose aesthetic will be mostly or totally lost even in 4K projection. Most modern flat screen TVs have a few settings (Mpeg NR among them) that render films to look like they were shot as sitcoms in the 80's. Uh It is horrendous and sadly many people do not notice, I even have a friend who prefers it. It looks like 29.97 interlaced and is horrible to my eye. DLP projection is always on so there is no blackness in which the mind can chew over the image it just saw, which brings the experince out of the realm of cinema for me. Those two reasons are the most enduring reasons for film distribution: 1. The viewing state from film projection is different from Electronic Cinema. 2. In Film projection the bulb illumination can be off, but a good print is a good print, with electronic distribution (especially to the home) forget it, things will never look the way you intend. These two points are not enough to overcome the costs involved in making prints and shipping them. -- Steven Gladstone New York Based Cinematographer Gladstone films Blog - http://indiekicker.reelgrok.com/ http://www.blakehousemovie.com http://www.gladstonefilms.com 917-886-5858 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] 35mm film will be dead by 2015 and News Corp
On 11/18/11 2:38 PM, Aaron F. Ross wrote: So, the flicker of analog celluloid projection is a desirable feature? Get real. Likewise, the idea that a good print guarantees a good projection is equally ridiculous. Aaron, I believe that there is a difference in the experience of watching film projected as opposed to electronic projection. I believe that part of that difference is that you sit in the dark for half the time, and in that space between the frames it is where Cinema lives. Yes there are 2 and three bladed shutters that break the 24 fps into 48 and 72 flicks per second, there is still black moments in there which are not noticed, but make a difference as compared to not having ANY moments without images bombarding your retina and brain. You don't have to believe that, it doesn't shake my view of the universe if others do not agree with me. Some people find Gate weave to be desirable, I'm not really one of them, as long as it isn't heinious or distracting, it doesn't really bother me (except for credits - uh.) As far as the prints, the point to make is that with a print - if it is a good print, you have eliminated many variables that exist in electronic projection. The potential Bulb problems exist for both. However there are far more adjustments available to an electronic cinema projector that will affect the image than a film projector. Which was my point. I don't expect film projection to survive as the mainstream form of distribution, there are too many other factors that favor electronic distribution. There are positives and negatives to both. -- Steven Gladstone New York Based Cinematographer Gladstone films Blog - http://indiekicker.reelgrok.com/ http://www.blakehousemovie.com http://www.gladstonefilms.com 917-886-5858 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] double exposure
On 11/9/11 9:03 AM, mike rice wrote: its simple, if you think of fstops as doubling or halfing light, then yes you would just compensate by stopping down. I'll add that you have to consider what is being double exposed on, once you reach white saturation, no additional exposure will develop any image in there. -- Steven Gladstone New York Based Cinematographer Gladstone films Blog - http://indiekicker.reelgrok.com/ http://www.blakehousemovie.com http://www.gladstonefilms.com 917-886-5858 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] traveling with a light kit on an international flight?
Hi: So or flying, you can find a link to the TSA site on my page http://www.gladstonefilms.com/links2.html I didn't see anything about bulbs. I expect that the TSA might buss more over carrying fragile mercury containing bulbs in the passenger compartment. You might try calling a bulb manufacturer and ask them that question - which leads me to recommend Lowell lighting. Lowell also makes compact flourescents that are flicker free, have a High CRI and are daylight balanced (no green.) SO I'd recommend giving them a call. My gut reaction says that there isn't that much of a pressure difference and I don't think the bulbs will crack from that - more likely from rough handling so pack them well. People have been shipping tungsten halogen bubls for a long time in lights with no issues from pressure and the tungsten halogen bulbs are under a lot of pressure. On 11/2/11 11:27 PM, k. a.r. wrote: Hi everyone. So in about 3 weeks I am flying to Mexico to shoot on two documentary projects. I will be bringing a light kit, one that has some high intensity compact florescent bulbs. (you know, the curly looking ones that everyone thinks are so green) -- Steven Gladstone New York Based Cinematographer Gladstone films Blog - http://indiekicker.reelgrok.com/ http://www.blakehousemovie.com http://www.gladstonefilms.com 917-886-5858 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Forbes editorial about Kodak
While Koda's financial struggles are interesting on many levels, and certainly having some affect on this group. Please G-d, No more Film Versus Video (Electronic Capture) because really: WHY DOES IT MATTER TO ANYONE ELSE IF SOMEONE CHOOSES TO USE FILM OR OTHER MEDIA TO CREATE THEIR WORK? Personally I'm dumfounded by why anyone would want to shoot Super 8 or 9.5mm, but that is just me. The fact that I don't understand why anyone would want to use that medium with all the other choices doesn't stop me from appreciating the work in it. I can't stand 30 fps, and prefer 24 fps. That's how I phrase it, you want to shoot at 30 fps, or any frame rate, that is your choice, enjoy. My dream (probably unfulfilled) is to make a still frame with the Niepce process. Anyone who wants to tell me what medium I can or cannot use should go BLEEP themselves. -- Steven Gladstone New York Based Cinematographer Gladstone films Blog - http://indiekicker.reelgrok.com/ http://www.blakehousemovie.com http://www.gladstonefilms.com 917-886-5858 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Renting Sync sound 16mm Rig
On 9/17/11 12:08 AM, Lars Fuchs wrote: Oh, sorry! Brooklyn, NY. thanks I was going to say it is odd that there isn't a sync sound rig available at your school, but these days have changed. I donated my Aaton to a school a few years ago. Most rental houses will require insurance, often the school will provide that, so you will have to coordinate with your school. In Manhattan you can check out Film Friends, I don't remember what their insurance requirements are. You might also try Du-all camera and Hit and Run Productions. I'm not sure what the requirements are for them, but if you have insurance (either yourself or through your school) then you can go anywhere. Hope this helps. I've a lovely old 5.7mm kinoptik and a 385mm Century Tele athenar, both in PL mount, if you need some lenses to rent. A few others I'd pretty much give away (Like $20 bucks) to someone who could use them. -- Steven Gladstone New York Based Cinematographer Gladstone films Blog - http://indiekicker.reelgrok.com/ http://www.blakehousemovie.com http://www.gladstonefilms.com 917-886-5858 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] **VL-JUNK** Re: Analog and digital
On 8/30/11 1:28 PM, Flick Harrison wrote: Steven, I don't quite understand your points... are you disagreeing with me, or supplementing what I'm saying? I'll go with the former, since debate is more fun than agreement on rowdy email lists. Cool, let's have fun, because there is no point in getting all upset. I'm neither right nor wrong, just a seeker. re: POINT 1: ones and zeroes aren't analog representations of on and off. You could more fruitfully say that on and off are mechanical representations of 1 and 0, since the binary number system stands in the abstract, like the decimal or roman system. The way I understand it the 1 and the zero come from video and waveform monitors, where 0 was black, and 1 was White or full exposure. This was of course for an analog signal. I know the video scale is measured as I.R.E. and the scale is 0 to 100 (or actually 7.5 to 100 in NTSC land) but my understanding is that 100 I.R.E. correlated to 1 volt. Digital is strictly an ON/OFF voltage states. This can be represented by ots and dashes, ones and zeros, but through the wires, it is all on off voltage states - the numbers 1 and zero are not being sent through the wires. I can transmit the same information to you by reciting ones and zeroes over a tin-can telephone as I could by sending an email. You would have to translate them into ASCII text in order to read the message, which you could do with a printed reference card. On and off would not be needed during that process. Yes, but then in reciting ones and zeroes you are speaking them, and thus sending an analog signal. :-) In a digital process, noise floor and strength of signal are eliminated with error checking. A digital signal doesn't degrade, it corrupts, it becomes unreadable or noisy and has to be re-transmitted. No argument. When sampling, the ANALOG value is converted to a number and this is sent digitally. Copying an Analog waveform it seems is not so clean/perfect as you point out. Send an Analog signal over a wire, and it may degrade. So what reads as a nice curve, may shrink or grow or change, but not that much. But back to digital degredation - through Fiber optic Digital signals can be sent quite a distance, but through copper - not so much. Remember we are not sending numbers (not sending ones and zeroes) we are sending On off states, which when they are received are converted into numeric values. But if there is a problem with the wires, or the transmission distance is too great -USB is limited I believe to about 25 feet. Well, a voltage state of 1 volt could be considered on and a voltage state of zero as off - but what if you get a voltage state of .5? Is that from noise in the wire? Yes Error correction and such, but again, not sending a one and zero, just sending voltage states through the wire - light pulses through fibre optic cable. This is one of the reasons it challenges analog-lovers who also love degradation and imperfection. Noise is not the same as fading. To quote spider robinson, who was referencing william gibson, I remember when sky the colour of television, tuned to a dead channel, didn't mean blue sky. re: POINT 2: if you're saying that all imagers are analog, that's true in the sense that the light waves coming in through the lens are analog, but in a digital process they get sampled at some point. Yes, the imagers are analog - Electronic imagers use A to D converters (Analog to Digital) to get the info of of the chips, CCD's etc. With Film yep considered Analog (maybe there is a different word for it.) Electronic - starts out as analog and converted to Digital (voltage states) for transmission and storage. In an analog process, there's no sampling anywhere; waves are recorded as waves with more or less fidelity, like film exposure or signal on tape. But sampling is different: however it's recorded, the sample isn't a wave. Of course things also end in an analog way, either when they become light and sound waves from the projector and speaker or at least when they hit your retina or ear drum. Sounds and looks good. :-) -- Steven Gladstone New York Based Cinematographer Gladstone films Blog - http://indiekicker.reelgrok.com/ http://www.blakehousemovie.com http://www.gladstonefilms.com 917-886-5858 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
