When Phil Solomon showed work in Oklahoma City he said to his audience that he 
preferred "poetic" to "experimental," because the experimenting had all been 
done already.  What we were seeing then was not so much an experiment as a 
poetic application of the results of that research.

I would like to see such an attitude taken seriously with respect to what we 
must call animation despite the inclusion of work like Sharits and Conrad.  
This isn't really animation but we have no other term unless we begin to think 
in terms of language and poetry, of materiality and film ontology.  


Another advantage taking the reference to poetry seriously is that it invites 
consideration of the relationship between such meanings as we find in poetics, 
on one hand, and a sequence of frames or shots, on the other.

BErnie


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From: Bernard Roddy <rodd...@yahoo.com>
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Robert Russett and Cecile Starr, Experimental Animation (Van Nostrand Reinhold 
Company, 1976).

It's been a while since I saw a copy of this text but it had a big influence on 
me 15 years ago.  It includes work like The Flicker by Tony Conrad, which 
extends the bounds of animation as we're usually expected to think about it.  
By thinking of animation as single-framing instead of as restricted to 
narrative, character, and gag, it allows us to ask more fundamental questions 
about film's potential than a Hollywood orientation does.  While I have made 
and screened work that qualifies as animation, I generally don't like to see it 
classified as such, simply because it is more likely to end up next to a 
cartoon than next to an genuine experiment.

Bernie




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 From: Robbie <rahb...@yahoo.com>
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Maureen Furniss was developing a book on animation, not sure if its available 
yet, but sounds good. Includes or is based, I believe on direct app. Animation.
She also has several older animation books.

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On Jan 16, 2013, at 3:37 PM, Stephanie Hutin <stephanie_hu...@pitzer.edu> wrote:

> Hello all,
> 
> I am teaching a Contemporary Animation Practices class this semester for the 
> first time.  I have lots of great texts but would love to consider others to 
> supplement my own interests.  Recommendations would be appreciated.  I am 
> currently reading the Fischinger article that someone posted about last week. 
>  Thank you!
> 
> Best,
> Stephanie
> 
> 
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