Re: [Frameworks] 16fps 16mm projectors?

2015-08-03 Thread Dave Tetzlaff
I don't know of any specific models, but since 16fps was once the standard, there must be really old 'silent only' projectors that run at that speed, yes? I vaguely recall that some sound projectors can be made to run at 16fps by changing a pulley. I'm guessing they wouldn't be Elmos or Eikis

[Frameworks] 16fps 16mm projectors?

2015-08-03 Thread Scott Stark
Hi all, anyone know of 16mm projectors that run at 16fps? As far as I know most Pageants, Eikis and Elmos run at 18 if they have a silent speed. I know some of the Warhol films were meant to run at 16fps. thanks, Scott ___ FrameWorks mailing list

Re: [Frameworks] 16fps 16mm projectors?

2015-08-03 Thread 40 Frames
Kodak Analyst maybe? Variable speed with line marking for 16 fps, though cannot recall, so perhaps someone else can verify? Earlier Kodak Analyst would dim when slowed, but I think the later model (II, etc) had better rheostat and douser so brightness was still decent when film speed was slowed

Re: [Frameworks] 16fps 16mm projectors?

2015-08-03 Thread Scott Dorsey
The BH filmosound in a box projectors (the 300 series) have universal motors with mechanical governors, which can be adjusted for a variety of speeds. If set according to the manual the silent speed is 16 fps, but if no maintenance has been done it could be anything. They are truly among the

Re: [Frameworks] 16fps 16mm projectors?

2015-08-03 Thread Kate MacKay
Hi Scott, I don't know of any portable 16mm projectors that run 16fps but some kinoton fp16 or fp18 projectors are equipped with variable speed motors that run 16fps. I just projected Haircut #1 at 16fps at the Media City Film Festival. I was using a beautiful Eastman 25 projector from Full

Re: [Frameworks] 16fps 16mm projectors?

2015-08-03 Thread David Sherman
I remember talking to talking to David Gerstein when the SF Cinematheque showed Empire in the 1990's and I seem to recal that he said that the BH Filmosound in a box projectors circ WWII ran silent at 16fps. I have one but haven't compared it to a silent running Pageant. -David On Mon, Aug 3,

Re: [Frameworks] 16fps 16mm projectors?

2015-08-03 Thread Steve Polta
In 2001 San Francisco Cinematheque projected Andy Warhol's *Sleep*, which is six hours (360 minutes) at 16fps. We started the show at midnight, expected it to end at 6am. We ran it at 18fps and the show got out at 5:30am (and in fact I just did the math and I think the difference over that time is