Re: [Frameworks] 8mm/16mm looping

2013-01-24 Thread Paul Krimmer

hey matthew

check out http://www.looper8.ch

have fun,
  paul

On 20.01.2013 07:34, matthew brown wrote:

Hi,
I am trying to set-up a basic loop on a super-8 projector and also a 
16mm projector,

the film would be pretty short, no more than 10ft.

anyone with experience with looping have 
suggestions/readings/instructions???



thanks so much,
matthew brown


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Re: [Frameworks] 8mm/16mm looping

2013-01-20 Thread David_Kidman
You can avoid a lot of scratching by winding some teflon tape around the cores 
of the reels. Make sure that the film flattens the end of the tape.
Best,
David 
Le 20 janv. 2013 à 15:33, Tom Whiteside a écrit :

> If your loops are short enough you don’t really need anything special. Put a 
> supply reel and a take up reel on the projector,  but of course the film does 
> not attach to them, it just passes through them.
>  
> If you have slot loaders you can make (and keep) the loops, just splice the 
> film into a loop of the appropriate length, load it on the projector and go. 
> When done you can remove the loop intact and store it in a can.
>  
> If you have any kind of a self-threading projector you need to thread up the 
> length of film the same way you would load a regular reel, then make the 
> splice to  join the tail to the head and you are good to go. In either case 
> the length is limited to a fairly small range, but it’s a loop. Can be kind 
> of challenging to make that splice in midair, or on top of the projector, but 
> it’s not too hard. To unload this you should undo the splice, let the film 
> run out of the projector, and keep the length of film intact. Of course tape 
> splices are easiest in this situation, and you need not lose any frames 
> undoing the splice.
>  
> I am rather loopy these days, the piece I am showing Friday at Strange Beauty 
> Film Festival here in Durham is CIRCLE SPIRAL SLOW. Not sure how many 
> frameworkers know about Strange Beauty, it is annual and this is #4 and it’s 
> a rather wonderful little fest. Drop in if you are in Bull City.
>  
> Tom  Durham Cinematheque
>  
> From: frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com 
> [mailto:frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com] On Behalf Ofmatthew brown
> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 1:34 AM
> To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
> Subject: [Frameworks] 8mm/16mm looping
>  
> Hi,
> I am trying to set-up a basic loop on a super-8 projector and also a 16mm 
> projector,
> the film would be pretty short, no more than 10ft.
>  
> anyone with experience with looping have suggestions/readings/instructions???
>  
>  
> thanks so much,
> matthew brown
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Re: [Frameworks] 8mm/16mm looping

2013-01-20 Thread Tom Whiteside
If your loops are short enough you don't really need anything special. Put a 
supply reel and a take up reel on the projector,  but of course the film does 
not attach to them, it just passes through them.

If you have slot loaders you can make (and keep) the loops, just splice the 
film into a loop of the appropriate length, load it on the projector and go. 
When done you can remove the loop intact and store it in a can.

If you have any kind of a self-threading projector you need to thread up the 
length of film the same way you would load a regular reel, then make the splice 
to  join the tail to the head and you are good to go. In either case the length 
is limited to a fairly small range, but it's a loop. Can be kind of challenging 
to make that splice in midair, or on top of the projector, but it's not too 
hard. To unload this you should undo the splice, let the film run out of the 
projector, and keep the length of film intact. Of course tape splices are 
easiest in this situation, and you need not lose any frames undoing the splice.

I am rather loopy these days, the piece I am showing Friday at Strange Beauty 
Film Festival here in Durham is CIRCLE SPIRAL SLOW. Not sure how many 
frameworkers know about Strange Beauty, it is annual and this is #4 and it's a 
rather wonderful little fest. Drop in if you are in Bull City.

Tom  Durham Cinematheque

From: frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com 
[mailto:frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com] On Behalf Of matthew brown
Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2013 1:34 AM
To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
Subject: [Frameworks] 8mm/16mm looping

Hi,
I am trying to set-up a basic loop on a super-8 projector and also a 16mm 
projector,
the film would be pretty short, no more than 10ft.

anyone with experience with looping have suggestions/readings/instructions???


thanks so much,
matthew brown
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Re: [Frameworks] 8mm/16mm looping

2013-01-19 Thread Ryder White
hi matthew,

what do you need to achieve with the loop? 10ft is pretty easy, especially
for 16mm. if you want to hang the loop or make it change direction i would
recommend using daylight spools–that is, if you don't mind some fine
scratches. anything can be used to help form a loop...some have suggested
coathangers, suspended wire, and i have a friend who uses those 1" steel
rings that unclip (i think they are office supplies...they have a hinge and
are used to clip things together through a hole punch) to suspend the film
which is also good because it only touches the edges of the film and keeps
it much cleaner. regardless, there is going to be crap accumulating in your
projector so make sure you can clean it at intervals.

most of what i know about loops comes from old frameworks conversations
anyway, so i won't take the credit away from other people...it's googlable
on the archive. there was a thread about "the loop" in academic writing on
FW about a week ago, come to think of it.

oh! and one thing i really like is if you can have your film illuminated
from the back so it's easy to look though (if the projector is in a public
space). just lends kind of a neat sculptural touch.

cheers,

RW

On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 10:34 PM, matthew brown <
matthewfrancisbr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> I am trying to set-up a basic loop on a super-8 projector and also a 16mm
> projector,
> the film would be pretty short, no more than 10ft.
>
> anyone with experience with looping have
> suggestions/readings/instructions???
>
>
> thanks so much,
> matthew brown
>
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[Frameworks] 8mm/16mm looping

2013-01-19 Thread matthew brown
Hi,
I am trying to set-up a basic loop on a super-8 projector and also a 16mm
projector,
the film would be pretty short, no more than 10ft.

anyone with experience with looping have
suggestions/readings/instructions???


thanks so much,
matthew brown
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