Re: [Frameworks] Fwd: Kodak Super8 digital camera

[Nicholas Kovats]

Which specific Bolex Reflex viewfinder are you referring too, Scott?
My regular and UltraPan8 Bolex 13x Reflex viewfinders provide a crisp
clear image. Not as bright as the later Aaton and Arri viewfinders but
quite good considering it's prism based.

On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 1:15 PM, Scott Dorsey  wrote:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23eNNss0ZFY
>
> I hate to say it, but this most looks very soft, even for Super-8, although
> there are a couple shots here and there (like at 1:35) that are okay.  I don't
> know if that's because the digital finder makes it hard to focus accurately
> or if the lens they picked for the test is not so happy wide-open.
>
> I am admittedly skeptical about the finder although I have to say that it's
> hard to make any finder worse than that on a Bolex Reflex and people have
> survived with Bolexes for a long time.
> --scott
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Re: [Frameworks] Fwd: Kodak Super8 digital camera

[Scott Dorsey]

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23eNNss0ZFY

I hate to say it, but this most looks very soft, even for Super-8, although
there are a couple shots here and there (like at 1:35) that are okay.  I don't
know if that's because the digital finder makes it hard to focus accurately
or if the lens they picked for the test is not so happy wide-open.

I am admittedly skeptical about the finder although I have to say that it's
hard to make any finder worse than that on a Bolex Reflex and people have
survived with Bolexes for a long time.
--scott


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[Frameworks] Fwd: Kodak Super8 digital camera

[Nicholas Kovats]

Predictable negativity not withstandinghere are two recent test
shots with the new Logmar designed Kodak Super 8 camera, i.e.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq1vP0viRO8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23eNNss0ZFY

I have the original Logmar prototype Super 8 camera that the new Kodak
S8 cam is based on. Here is a rough sketch I did, i.e.

https://vimeo.com/180784477

Logmar is also developing a handheld 65mm camera with fold out 4K LCD
screen and under 25 lbs, Their camera designs are controversial for
the absence of an optical finder. Their Kodak contract saved their
tiny company which is essentially a two man (father + son) operation
based in Norway. But I look at it this way. I and others have invested
in the ongoing development of motion cameras. We have yet to exhaust
film's incredible potentials. Digital/analog hybrid camera engineering
is a product of our times. There is another project underway by a
Swiss engineer to build a self-blimped Super 8 camera that looks like
a miniature Arri 435.

Micheal Leblanc (DOP) just finished shooting a 90 minute Super 8
feature here in Toronto with Pro8mm Canon 1014XL w. MAX8 gates. There
are many more active Super 8 projects.

Shoot film!


-- Forwarded message --
From: Kolberg, Sarah 
Date: Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Kodak Super8 digital camera
To: "frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com" 


Hi all -



I know that Kodak has a couple of prototypes of the new Super8 digital
but they are - as of January - not yet available for "trying out."
But should be soon.



to offer a little clarification on the film developing with digital
angle through Pro8mm in Burbank (Kodak's suggested developer):



Their digital upload service is available but not part of their
standard development expense, and cost depends on resolution - it's
$10 per gb - so getting it that way would certainly expedite access to
working with it but those costs can quickly add up.



typically it takes 2-5 business days to process and send back
(obviously the length of time here is affected by whether the film is
shipped film overnight or 3day etc) but they do offer a rush service
that costs $200 per film stock type, and covers all the rolls of the
same type per type



I know his because we got a handful of super8s from Kodak for a master
class we held with Isaac Julien earlier this year.  Margaret (or
others) if you want to contact me off line I can give you the contact
info at Kodak and maybe once the newer model is available for tryouts
(and it may be by now) which you can pass along to the art school.



best,



~ sarah






From: FrameWorks  on behalf of
Margaret Rorison 
Sent: Friday, July 14, 2017 11:09 AM
To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Kodak Super8 digital camera

Thanks for the input. A local art school was curious about it and I
wanted to ask around, since I know nothing about this hybrid model and
its expenses.

thanks!
meg


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>1. Kodak Super8 digital camera (Margaret Rorison)
>2. Re: Kodak Super8 digital camera (Jeff Kreines)
>3. Re: Kodak Super8 digital camera (Francisco Torres)
>4. Re: Kodak Super8 digital camera (Dave Tetzlaff)
>5. Re: Kodak Super8 digital camera (j miner)
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> Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 14:23:55 -0400
> Subject: [Frameworks] Kodak Super8 digital camera
> Has anyone had the chance to experience and use this tool?
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> Any exciting notes, critiques or comments?
>
> thanks!
> Meg
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> From: Jeff Kreines 
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> Date: Thu, 13 Jul 2017 17:38:16 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Kodak Super8 digital camera
> It's a camera designed by someone who had never used a Super-8 film camera. 
> Mindless design. No optical viewfinder, just a flip out video screen. The 
> only good thing about it is the C-mount lens.
>
> Plus, it is overpriced.
>
> Jeff Kreines
> Kinetta
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> On Jul 13, 2017, at 1:23 PM, Margaret Rorison  
> wrote:
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> Has anyone had the chance to experience and use this tool?
>
> Any exciting notes, critiques or comments?
>
> thanks!
> Meg
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