[Frameworks] Super 8 camera BROKE!!!!!
Hey ive been shooting a lot film with my canon super 8 camera and it stopped working recently and i lost a bunch of good footage because of it. It appears to run fine but when I put film in, it just rips the sprocket holes and doesnt advance the film at all. The wheel inside turns fine and the tooth that grabs the sprockethole seems to move fine when theres no film inside. Anyway to get to the point i need to fix this thing or borrow someones camera before this weekend cause i need to get this film out. Anyone in the NYC area got anything thatll help? Thanks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 camera BROKE!!!!!
To me this sounds like a problem with the individual film cartridge you are using (like it is jammed somehow and the film can't move) and not the camera. Have you tried using another cartridge? On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 2:55 PM, ben.weinst...@mindspring.com wrote: Hey ive been shooting a lot film with my canon super 8 camera and it stopped working recently and i lost a bunch of good footage because of it. It appears to run fine but when I put film in, it just rips the sprocket holes and doesnt advance the film at all. The wheel inside turns fine and the tooth that grabs the sprockethole seems to move fine when theres no film inside. Anyway to get to the point i need to fix this thing or borrow someones camera before this weekend cause i need to get this film out. Anyone in the NYC area got anything thatll help? Thanks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 camera BROKE!!!!!
I'd agree with the others..try another cartridge. The same thing happened to me on a couple different cartridges I got from the same case...it seems like a manufacturing defect made the hub seize up. On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Scott Dorsey klu...@panix.com wrote: Are you sure it's a bad camera and not just a bad mag? --scott ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 camera BROKE!!!!!
As I recall, seizing cartridges were a big problem when Ektachrome 100D was first introduced and we even had a client who became so frustrated that she threw her (admittedly crappy) camera in the Pacific when she blamed it for ruining the shoot only to have the same problem with that cartridge when a friend brought a loaner camera. There were a lot of posts about this on filmshooting a few years ago and one suggested solution was to smack the cartridge on a hard surface a couple of times to un-seize it. Also, if you froze or refrigerated your cartridges things can get sticky inside due to condensation when brought into a humid environment. It has been suggested that cartridges should be removed from a refrigerator a day or two prior to shooting to allow time to equalize... -Good luck! ---Buck Bito Lawrence Buck Bito Movette Film Transfer 1407 Valencia St. San Francisco, CA 94110 415-558-8815 Open Tuesday - Saturday www.movettefilm.com On Wed, August 20, 2014 3:53 pm, Ryder White wrote: I'd agree with the others..try another cartridge. The same thing happened to me on a couple different cartridges I got from the same case...it seems like a manufacturing defect made the hub seize up. On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Scott Dorsey klu...@panix.com wrote: Are you sure it's a bad camera and not just a bad mag? --scott ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 camera BROKE!!!!!
I tryed 3 different cartridges and they all did the same thing -Original Message- From: Buck Bito - Movette b...@movettefilm.com Sent: Aug 20, 2014 7:10 PM To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 camera BROKE! As I recall, seizing cartridges were a big problem when Ektachrome 100D was first introduced and we even had a client who became so frustrated that she threw her (admittedly crappy) camera in the Pacific when she blamed it for ruining the shoot only to have the same problem with that cartridge when a friend brought a loaner camera. There were a lot of posts about this on filmshooting a few years ago and one suggested solution was to smack the cartridge on a hard surface a couple of times to un-seize it. Also, if you froze or refrigerated your cartridges things can get sticky inside due to condensation when brought into a humid environment. It has been suggested that cartridges should be removed from a refrigerator a day or two prior to shooting to allow time to equalize... -Good luck! ---Buck Bito Lawrence Buck Bito Movette Film Transfer 1407 Valencia St. San Francisco, CA 94110 415-558-8815 Open Tuesday - Saturday www.movettefilm.com On Wed, August 20, 2014 3:53 pm, Ryder White wrote: I'd agree with the others..try another cartridge. The same thing happened to me on a couple different cartridges I got from the same case...it seems like a manufacturing defect made the hub seize up. On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Scott Dorsey klu...@panix.com wrote: Are you sure it's a bad camera and not just a bad mag? --scott ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 camera BROKE!!!!!
I tryed 3 different cartridges and they all did the same thing -Original Message- From: Buck Bito - Movette b...@movettefilm.com Sent: Aug 20, 2014 7:10 PM To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 camera BROKE! As I recall, seizing cartridges were a big problem when Ektachrome 100D was first introduced and we even had a client who became so frustrated that she threw her (admittedly crappy) camera in the Pacific when she blamed it for ruining the shoot only to have the same problem with that cartridge when a friend brought a loaner camera. There were a lot of posts about this on filmshooting a few years ago and one suggested solution was to smack the cartridge on a hard surface a couple of times to un-seize it. Also, if you froze or refrigerated your cartridges things can get sticky inside due to condensation when brought into a humid environment. It has been suggested that cartridges should be removed from a refrigerator a day or two prior to shooting to allow time to equalize... -Good luck! ---Buck Bito Lawrence Buck Bito Movette Film Transfer 1407 Valencia St. San Francisco, CA 94110 415-558-8815 Open Tuesday - Saturday www.movettefilm.com On Wed, August 20, 2014 3:53 pm, Ryder White wrote: I'd agree with the others..try another cartridge. The same thing happened to me on a couple different cartridges I got from the same case...it seems like a manufacturing defect made the hub seize up. On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Scott Dorsey klu...@panix.com wrote: Are you sure it's a bad camera and not just a bad mag? --scott ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 camera BROKE!!!!!
Ben, You can see if those carts are seized by trying to pull down a few frames. Hold the cartridge with the pressure plate (film) facing you and the label side to your left (label text should be right side up), and try sliding a few frames down. There should be only a little bit of resistance - basically just enough to keep the film stationary when its not being pulled by the claw. It the film doesn't move with moderate finger pressure, the cartridge is seized and you might try smacking it a couple of times before repeating the test. -Good luck! ---Buck Bito On Wed, August 20, 2014 4:45 pm, ben.weinst...@mindspring.com wrote: I tryed 3 different cartridges and they all did the same thing -Original Message- From: Buck Bito - Movette b...@movettefilm.com Sent: Aug 20, 2014 7:10 PM To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 camera BROKE! As I recall, seizing cartridges were a big problem...snip -Good luck! ---Buck Bito Lawrence Buck Bito Movette Film Transfer 1407 Valencia St. San Francisco, CA 94110 415-558-8815 Open Tuesday - Saturday www.movettefilm.com On Wed, August 20, 2014 3:53 pm, Ryder White wrote: I'd agree with the others..try another cartridge. The same thing happened to me on a couple different cartridges I got from the same case...it seems like a manufacturing defect made the hub seize up. On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Scott Dorsey klu...@panix.com wrote: Are you sure it's a bad camera and not just a bad mag? --scott ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 camera BROKE!!!!!
woa thanks for the help. the cartridges were jammed and i got 1 to work. The other 2 are boned i guess. Thanks yall -Original Message- From: Buck Bito - Movette b...@movettefilm.com Sent: Aug 20, 2014 8:27 PM To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 camera BROKE! Ben, You can see if those carts are seized by trying to pull down a few frames. Hold the cartridge with the pressure plate (film) facing you and the label side to your left (label text should be right side up), and try sliding a few frames down. There should be only a little bit of resistance - basically just enough to keep the film stationary when its not being pulled by the claw. It the film doesn't move with moderate finger pressure, the cartridge is seized and you might try smacking it a couple of times before repeating the test. -Good luck! ---Buck Bito On Wed, August 20, 2014 4:45 pm, ben.weinst...@mindspring.com wrote: I tryed 3 different cartridges and they all did the same thing -Original Message- From: Buck Bito - Movette b...@movettefilm.com Sent: Aug 20, 2014 7:10 PM To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 camera BROKE! As I recall, seizing cartridges were a big problem...snip -Good luck! ---Buck Bito Lawrence Buck Bito Movette Film Transfer 1407 Valencia St. San Francisco, CA 94110 415-558-8815 Open Tuesday - Saturday www.movettefilm.com On Wed, August 20, 2014 3:53 pm, Ryder White wrote: I'd agree with the others..try another cartridge. The same thing happened to me on a couple different cartridges I got from the same case...it seems like a manufacturing defect made the hub seize up. On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Scott Dorsey klu...@panix.com wrote: Are you sure it's a bad camera and not just a bad mag? --scott ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
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Ben, just out of curiosity, were these Kodak cartridges? On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 7:47 PM, ben.weinst...@mindspring.com wrote: woa thanks for the help. the cartridges were jammed and i got 1 to work. The other 2 are boned i guess. Thanks yall -Original Message- From: Buck Bito - Movette b...@movettefilm.com Sent: Aug 20, 2014 8:27 PM To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 camera BROKE! Ben, You can see if those carts are seized by trying to pull down a few frames. Hold the cartridge with the pressure plate (film) facing you and the label side to your left (label text should be right side up), and try sliding a few frames down. There should be only a little bit of resistance - basically just enough to keep the film stationary when its not being pulled by the claw. It the film doesn't move with moderate finger pressure, the cartridge is seized and you might try smacking it a couple of times before repeating the test. -Good luck! ---Buck Bito On Wed, August 20, 2014 4:45 pm, ben.weinst...@mindspring.com wrote: I tryed 3 different cartridges and they all did the same thing -Original Message- From: Buck Bito - Movette b...@movettefilm.com Sent: Aug 20, 2014 7:10 PM To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 camera BROKE! As I recall, seizing cartridges were a big problem...snip -Good luck! ---Buck Bito Lawrence Buck Bito Movette Film Transfer 1407 Valencia St. San Francisco, CA 94110 415-558-8815 Open Tuesday - Saturday www.movettefilm.com On Wed, August 20, 2014 3:53 pm, Ryder White wrote: I'd agree with the others..try another cartridge. The same thing happened to me on a couple different cartridges I got from the same case...it seems like a manufacturing defect made the hub seize up. On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Scott Dorsey klu...@panix.com wrote: Are you sure it's a bad camera and not just a bad mag? --scott ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- ekrem serdar austin, tx ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks