[Frameworks] Super 8 camera BROKE!!!!!

2014-08-20 Thread ben.weinstein
Hey ive been shooting a lot film with my canon super 8 camera and it stopped working recently and i lost a bunch of good footage because of it. It appears to run fine but when I put film in, it just rips the sprocket holes and doesnt advance the film at all. The wheel inside turns fine and the tooth that grabs the sprockethole seems to move fine when theres no film inside. Anyway to get to the point i need to fix this thing or borrow someones camera before this weekend cause i need to get this film out. Anyone in the NYC area got anything thatll help? Thanks
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Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 camera BROKE!!!!!

2014-08-20 Thread Steve Polta
To me this sounds like a problem with the individual film cartridge you are
using (like it is jammed somehow and the film can't move) and not the
camera. Have you tried using another cartridge?


On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 2:55 PM, ben.weinst...@mindspring.com wrote:

 Hey ive been shooting a lot film with my canon super 8 camera and it
 stopped working recently and i lost a bunch of good footage because of it.
 It appears to run fine but when I put film in, it just rips the sprocket
 holes and doesnt advance the film at all.  The wheel inside turns fine and
 the tooth that grabs the sprockethole seems to move fine when theres no
 film inside.  Anyway to get to the point i need to fix this thing or borrow
 someones camera before this weekend cause i need to get this film out.
 Anyone in the NYC area got anything thatll help?  Thanks

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Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 camera BROKE!!!!!

2014-08-20 Thread Ryder White
I'd agree with the others..try another cartridge. The same thing happened
to me on a couple different cartridges I got from the same case...it seems
like a manufacturing defect made the hub seize up.


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 Are you sure it's a bad camera and not just a bad mag?
 --scott
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Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 camera BROKE!!!!!

2014-08-20 Thread Buck Bito - Movette
As I recall, seizing cartridges were a big problem when Ektachrome 100D
was first introduced and we even had a client who became so frustrated
that she threw her (admittedly crappy) camera in the Pacific when she
blamed it for ruining the shoot only to have the same problem with that
cartridge when a friend brought a loaner camera. There were a lot of posts
about this on filmshooting a few years ago and one suggested solution was
to smack the cartridge on a hard surface a couple of times to un-seize it.
Also, if you froze or refrigerated your cartridges things can get sticky
inside due to condensation when brought into a humid environment.
It has been suggested that cartridges should be removed from a
refrigerator a day or two prior to shooting to allow time to equalize...
-Good luck!
---Buck Bito

Lawrence Buck Bito
Movette Film Transfer
1407 Valencia St.
San Francisco, CA 94110
415-558-8815
Open Tuesday - Saturday
www.movettefilm.com


On Wed, August 20, 2014 3:53 pm, Ryder White wrote:
 I'd agree with the others..try another cartridge. The same thing happened
 to me on a couple different cartridges I got from the same case...it seems
 like a manufacturing defect made the hub seize up.


 On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Scott Dorsey klu...@panix.com wrote:

 Are you sure it's a bad camera and not just a bad mag?
 --scott
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Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 camera BROKE!!!!!

2014-08-20 Thread ben.weinstein
I tryed 3 different cartridges and they all did the same thing


-Original Message-
From: Buck Bito - Movette b...@movettefilm.com
Sent: Aug 20, 2014 7:10 PM
To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 camera BROKE!

As I recall, seizing cartridges were a big problem when Ektachrome 100D
was first introduced and we even had a client who became so frustrated
that she threw her (admittedly crappy) camera in the Pacific when she
blamed it for ruining the shoot only to have the same problem with that
cartridge when a friend brought a loaner camera. There were a lot of posts
about this on filmshooting a few years ago and one suggested solution was
to smack the cartridge on a hard surface a couple of times to un-seize it.
Also, if you froze or refrigerated your cartridges things can get sticky
inside due to condensation when brought into a humid environment.
It has been suggested that cartridges should be removed from a
refrigerator a day or two prior to shooting to allow time to equalize...
-Good luck!
---Buck Bito

Lawrence Buck Bito
Movette Film Transfer
1407 Valencia St.
San Francisco, CA 94110
415-558-8815
Open Tuesday - Saturday
www.movettefilm.com


On Wed, August 20, 2014 3:53 pm, Ryder White wrote:
 I'd agree with the others..try another cartridge. The same thing happened
 to me on a couple different cartridges I got from the same case...it seems
 like a manufacturing defect made the hub seize up.


 On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Scott Dorsey klu...@panix.com wrote:

 Are you sure it's a bad camera and not just a bad mag?
 --scott
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Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 camera BROKE!!!!!

2014-08-20 Thread ben.weinstein
I tryed 3 different cartridges and they all did the same thing


-Original Message-
From: Buck Bito - Movette b...@movettefilm.com
Sent: Aug 20, 2014 7:10 PM
To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 camera BROKE!

As I recall, seizing cartridges were a big problem when Ektachrome 100D
was first introduced and we even had a client who became so frustrated
that she threw her (admittedly crappy) camera in the Pacific when she
blamed it for ruining the shoot only to have the same problem with that
cartridge when a friend brought a loaner camera. There were a lot of posts
about this on filmshooting a few years ago and one suggested solution was
to smack the cartridge on a hard surface a couple of times to un-seize it.
Also, if you froze or refrigerated your cartridges things can get sticky
inside due to condensation when brought into a humid environment.
It has been suggested that cartridges should be removed from a
refrigerator a day or two prior to shooting to allow time to equalize...
-Good luck!
---Buck Bito

Lawrence Buck Bito
Movette Film Transfer
1407 Valencia St.
San Francisco, CA 94110
415-558-8815
Open Tuesday - Saturday
www.movettefilm.com


On Wed, August 20, 2014 3:53 pm, Ryder White wrote:
 I'd agree with the others..try another cartridge. The same thing happened
 to me on a couple different cartridges I got from the same case...it seems
 like a manufacturing defect made the hub seize up.


 On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Scott Dorsey klu...@panix.com wrote:

 Are you sure it's a bad camera and not just a bad mag?
 --scott
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Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 camera BROKE!!!!!

2014-08-20 Thread Buck Bito - Movette
Ben,
You can see if those carts are seized by trying to pull down a few frames.
Hold the cartridge with the pressure plate (film) facing you and the label
side to your left (label text should be right side up), and try sliding a
few frames down. There should be only a little bit of resistance -
basically just enough to keep the film stationary when its not being
pulled by the claw.
It the film doesn't move with moderate finger pressure, the cartridge is
seized and you might try smacking it a couple of times before repeating
the test.
-Good luck!
---Buck Bito


On Wed, August 20, 2014 4:45 pm, ben.weinst...@mindspring.com wrote:
 I tryed 3 different cartridges and they all did the same thing


 -Original Message-
From: Buck Bito - Movette b...@movettefilm.com
Sent: Aug 20, 2014 7:10 PM
To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 camera BROKE!

As I recall, seizing cartridges were a big problem...snip
-Good luck!
---Buck Bito

Lawrence Buck Bito
Movette Film Transfer
1407 Valencia St.
San Francisco, CA 94110
415-558-8815
Open Tuesday - Saturday
www.movettefilm.com


On Wed, August 20, 2014 3:53 pm, Ryder White wrote:
 I'd agree with the others..try another cartridge. The same thing
 happened to me on a couple different cartridges I got from the
 same case...it seems
 like a manufacturing defect made the hub seize up.


 On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Scott Dorsey klu...@panix.com wrote:

 Are you sure it's a bad camera and not just a bad mag?
 --scott
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Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 camera BROKE!!!!!

2014-08-20 Thread ben.weinstein
woa thanks for the help.  the cartridges were jammed and i got 1 to work.  The 
other 2 are boned i guess.  Thanks yall


-Original Message-
From: Buck Bito - Movette b...@movettefilm.com
Sent: Aug 20, 2014 8:27 PM
To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 camera BROKE!

Ben,
You can see if those carts are seized by trying to pull down a few frames.
Hold the cartridge with the pressure plate (film) facing you and the label
side to your left (label text should be right side up), and try sliding a
few frames down. There should be only a little bit of resistance -
basically just enough to keep the film stationary when its not being
pulled by the claw.
It the film doesn't move with moderate finger pressure, the cartridge is
seized and you might try smacking it a couple of times before repeating
the test.
-Good luck!
---Buck Bito


On Wed, August 20, 2014 4:45 pm, ben.weinst...@mindspring.com wrote:
 I tryed 3 different cartridges and they all did the same thing


 -Original Message-
From: Buck Bito - Movette b...@movettefilm.com
Sent: Aug 20, 2014 7:10 PM
To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 camera BROKE!

As I recall, seizing cartridges were a big problem...snip
-Good luck!
---Buck Bito

Lawrence Buck Bito
Movette Film Transfer
1407 Valencia St.
San Francisco, CA 94110
415-558-8815
Open Tuesday - Saturday
www.movettefilm.com


On Wed, August 20, 2014 3:53 pm, Ryder White wrote:
 I'd agree with the others..try another cartridge. The same thing
 happened to me on a couple different cartridges I got from the
 same case...it seems
 like a manufacturing defect made the hub seize up.


 On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Scott Dorsey klu...@panix.com wrote:

 Are you sure it's a bad camera and not just a bad mag?
 --scott
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Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 camera BROKE!!!!!

2014-08-20 Thread Ekrem Serdar
Ben, just out of curiosity, were these Kodak cartridges?


On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 7:47 PM, ben.weinst...@mindspring.com wrote:

 woa thanks for the help.  the cartridges were jammed and i got 1 to work.
 The other 2 are boned i guess.  Thanks yall


 -Original Message-
 From: Buck Bito - Movette b...@movettefilm.com
 Sent: Aug 20, 2014 8:27 PM
 To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
 Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 camera BROKE!
 
 Ben,
 You can see if those carts are seized by trying to pull down a few frames.
 Hold the cartridge with the pressure plate (film) facing you and the label
 side to your left (label text should be right side up), and try sliding a
 few frames down. There should be only a little bit of resistance -
 basically just enough to keep the film stationary when its not being
 pulled by the claw.
 It the film doesn't move with moderate finger pressure, the cartridge is
 seized and you might try smacking it a couple of times before repeating
 the test.
 -Good luck!
 ---Buck Bito
 
 
 On Wed, August 20, 2014 4:45 pm, ben.weinst...@mindspring.com wrote:
  I tryed 3 different cartridges and they all did the same thing
 
 
  -Original Message-
 From: Buck Bito - Movette b...@movettefilm.com
 Sent: Aug 20, 2014 7:10 PM
 To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
 Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Super 8 camera BROKE!
 
 As I recall, seizing cartridges were a big problem...snip
 -Good luck!
 ---Buck Bito
 
 Lawrence Buck Bito
 Movette Film Transfer
 1407 Valencia St.
 San Francisco, CA 94110
 415-558-8815
 Open Tuesday - Saturday
 www.movettefilm.com
 
 
 On Wed, August 20, 2014 3:53 pm, Ryder White wrote:
  I'd agree with the others..try another cartridge. The same thing
  happened to me on a couple different cartridges I got from the
  same case...it seems
  like a manufacturing defect made the hub seize up.
 
 
  On Wed, Aug 20, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Scott Dorsey klu...@panix.com
 wrote:
 
  Are you sure it's a bad camera and not just a bad mag?
  --scott
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