Re: [Frameworks] caffenol processing with 16mm
The suggestion to use sodium carbonate (washing soda) is a good one. It's MUCH more economical than vitamin C as an activator, blends faster with coffee and therefore produces cleaner results on your film. I've processed a great deal of film (motion and still) with caffeinol (my most recent hi-con process was using expired, 12 year old 7378 from my freezer, and it worked beautifully). If you don't object to lengthier developing times, you can substitute the coffee in your caffeinol mix with anything containing caffeic acid...such as black/green tea or red wine (wine is obviously more expensive, but it's a great thing to try at least once. Just as with coffee, the cheaper the wine, the better the developer.) -- Forwarded message -- From: Jason Halprin jihalp...@yahoo.com To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Cc: Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 13:46:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [Frameworks] caffenol processing with 16mm? Carrie, You can also get Arm Hammer Washing Soda at most grocery stores in the US, usually near the laundry detergent. -Jason Halprin -- *From:* Carrie Schreck carriemakesmov...@gmail.com *To:* Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com *Sent:* Thursday, January 5, 2012 3:21 PM *Subject:* Re: [Frameworks] caffenol processing with 16mm? REALLY? color? that's interesting will try that, do you remember your timing for the hi-con? also where did you get the washing soda? ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] caffenol processing with 16mm
Hi Christine, the process I read about was coffee, vit C, AND washing soda, I'm not opposed to using all 3 but I think washing soda may be hard to find in southern california. Basically I want to shoot the hi-con and experiment with degrading it during processing to give it some nice brakhage esque texture; bubbles, scratches, i'd like to figure out a good technique for solarizing, etc. any recommendations? also do you order your 7378 through kodak directly, if so what's your contact. Thanks! -Carrie On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Christine Lucy Latimer christinelucylati...@gmail.com wrote: The suggestion to use sodium carbonate (washing soda) is a good one. It's MUCH more economical than vitamin C as an activator, blends faster with coffee and therefore produces cleaner results on your film. I've processed a great deal of film (motion and still) with caffeinol (my most recent hi-con process was using expired, 12 year old 7378 from my freezer, and it worked beautifully). If you don't object to lengthier developing times, you can substitute the coffee in your caffeinol mix with anything containing caffeic acid...such as black/green tea or red wine (wine is obviously more expensive, but it's a great thing to try at least once. Just as with coffee, the cheaper the wine, the better the developer.) -- Forwarded message -- From: Jason Halprin jihalp...@yahoo.com To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Cc: Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 13:46:16 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [Frameworks] caffenol processing with 16mm? Carrie, You can also get Arm Hammer Washing Soda at most grocery stores in the US, usually near the laundry detergent. -Jason Halprin -- *From:* Carrie Schreck carriemakesmov...@gmail.com *To:* Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com *Sent:* Thursday, January 5, 2012 3:21 PM *Subject:* Re: [Frameworks] caffenol processing with 16mm? REALLY? color? that's interesting will try that, do you remember your timing for the hi-con? also where did you get the washing soda? ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- Carrie Schreck Filmmaker, photographer, and all-around cool chick. (415) 730 1146 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] caffenol processing with 16mm
Stan Brakhage :) my direct-on-film hero http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=stan+brakhage%2C+direct+on+filmoq=stan+brakhage%2C+direct+on+filmaq=faqi=aql=gs_sm=egs_upl=10118l16179l0l16305l29l24l0l14l4l0l290l1756l3.3.4l10l0 I started putting found footage in washing machines with bleach and got great textures -Carrie On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Robbie rahb...@yahoo.com wrote: What is brakhage esque texture? Mercy. Sent from my iPod On Jan 6, 2012, at 3:24 PM, Carrie Schreck carriemakesmov...@gmail.com wrote: brakhage esque texture ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- Carrie Schreck Filmmaker, photographer, and all-around cool chick. (415) 730 1146 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] caffenol processing with 16mm
but I think washing soda may be hard to find in southern california. Carrie...this is what you're looking for: http://www.amazon.com/Church-Dwight-03020-Hammer-Washing/dp/B0029XNTEU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1325893480sr=8-1 Next time you're at Ralph's, it should be about $3. -JH ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] caffenol processing with 16mm
killer! On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Jason Halprin jihalp...@yahoo.com wrote: but I think washing soda may be hard to find in southern california. Carrie...this is what you're looking for: http://www.amazon.com/Church-Dwight-03020-Hammer-Washing/dp/B0029XNTEU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1325893480sr=8-1 Next time you're at Ralph's, it should be about $3. -JH ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- Carrie Schreck Filmmaker, photographer, and all-around cool chick. (415) 730 1146 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] caffenol processing with 16mm
When it comes to art, don't let anything hold you back - have it imported! but I think washing soda may be hard to find in southern california. ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] caffenol processing with 16mm
If washing soda and seventh generation scent-free, dye-free, laundry detergent are the same thing, then yes, yes we have it in socal. -Carrie On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 4:18 PM, George Robinson george.robinson.communicati...@gmail.com wrote: All the way from . . . Nevada? Don't they wash in SoCal? George Robinson On 1/6/2012 7:12 PM, Tom Whiteside wrote: When it comes to art, don’t let anything hold you back – have it imported! ** ** ** ** but I think washing soda may be hard to find in southern california. ___ FrameWorks mailing listFrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.comhttps://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- Visit my blog at www.cine-journal.blogspot.com Follow me on Twitter @GRCommunicati13 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- Carrie Schreck Filmmaker, photographer, and all-around cool chick. (415) 730 1146 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
[Frameworks] caffenol processing with 16mm?
Hi I just watched a how-to on Caffenol processing (developing black and white negatives with instant coffee and vitamin c) wondering If i can use the same process to develop black and white reversal or high-con titling film (Kodak 7363) Has anyone tried this? I'm wondering if this process can be modified to replace the d-97/d-11 process used for hi-con. -- Carrie Schreck Filmmaker, photographer, and all-around cool chick. (415) 730 1146 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] caffenol processing with 16mm?
Link for the instructions http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embeddedv=zYjOqcbBEco -Carrie On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 12:08 PM, Terri Francis terri.fran...@yale.eduwrote: Hi I was wondering if you would share a link to where you saw the how-to. Thank you. On Jan 5, 2012, at 3:05 PM, Carrie Schreck wrote: Hi I just watched a how-to on Caffenol processing (developing black and white negatives with instant coffee and vitamin c) wondering If i can use the same process to develop black and white reversal or high-con titling film (Kodak 7363) Has anyone tried this? I'm wondering if this process can be modified to replace the d-97/d-11 process used for hi-con. -- Carrie Schreck Filmmaker, photographer, and all-around cool chick. (415) 730 1146 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks Terri Francis Associate Professor Film Studies, African American Studies Yale University http://www.yale.edu/filmstudiesprogram/faculty/francis.html -- Carrie Schreck Filmmaker, photographer, and all-around cool chick. (415) 730 1146 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] caffenol processing with 16mm?
This topic circulated in a thread awhile back. Here's a link to a recipe that was posted: http://www.handmadefilm.org/research/coffeeAscorbate/index.html On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 3:05 PM, Carrie Schreck carriemakesmov...@gmail.comwrote: Hi I just watched a how-to on Caffenol processing (developing black and white negatives with instant coffee and vitamin c) wondering If i can use the same process to develop black and white reversal or high-con titling film (Kodak 7363) Has anyone tried this? I'm wondering if this process can be modified to replace the d-97/d-11 process used for hi-con. -- Carrie Schreck Filmmaker, photographer, and all-around cool chick. (415) 730 1146 ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] caffenol processing with 16mm?
hei carrie, yes, this works. i tried it with high con 7363 and also b/w negative and color reversal (doesnt make much sense, but works as well). Original-Nachricht Datum: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 12:05:20 -0800 Von: Carrie Schreck carriemakesmov...@gmail.com An: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Betreff: [Frameworks] caffenol processing with 16mm? Hi I just watched a how-to on Caffenol processing (developing black and white negatives with instant coffee and vitamin c) wondering If i can use the same process to develop black and white reversal or high-con titling film (Kodak 7363) Has anyone tried this? I'm wondering if this process can be modified to replace the d-97/d-11 process used for hi-con. -- Carrie Schreck Filmmaker, photographer, and all-around cool chick. (415) 730 1146 -- NEU: FreePhone - 0ct/min Handyspartarif mit Geld-zurück-Garantie! Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] caffenol processing with 16mm?
well, the color reversal turns out b/w negative of course, that's why i meant it doesnt make sense to use it ;) the high-con was about 2 min. i think, but you can use a red safelight and see what's happening. soda - at a chemist's Original-Nachricht Datum: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 13:21:55 -0800 Von: Carrie Schreck carriemakesmov...@gmail.com An: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Betreff: Re: [Frameworks] caffenol processing with 16mm? REALLY? color? that's interesting will try that, do you remember your timing for the hi-con? also where did you get the washing soda? On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 12:55 PM, Daniela Zahlner daniela.zahl...@gmx.atwrote: hei carrie, yes, this works. i tried it with high con 7363 and also b/w negative and color reversal (doesnt make much sense, but works as well). Original-Nachricht Datum: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 12:05:20 -0800 Von: Carrie Schreck carriemakesmov...@gmail.com An: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Betreff: [Frameworks] caffenol processing with 16mm? Hi I just watched a how-to on Caffenol processing (developing black and white negatives with instant coffee and vitamin c) wondering If i can use the same process to develop black and white reversal or high-con titling film (Kodak 7363) Has anyone tried this? I'm wondering if this process can be modified to replace the d-97/d-11 process used for hi-con. -- Carrie Schreck Filmmaker, photographer, and all-around cool chick. (415) 730 1146 -- NEU: FreePhone - 0ct/min Handyspartarif mit Geld-zurück-Garantie! Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks -- Carrie Schreck Filmmaker, photographer, and all-around cool chick. (415) 730 1146 -- NEU: FreePhone - 0ct/min Handyspartarif mit Geld-zurück-Garantie! Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
