Re: [Frameworks] FrameWorks Digest, Vol 90, Issue 3

2017-11-04 Thread Kelly Spivey
Accursed Mazurka - Nina Fonoroff


> On Nov 4, 2017, at 4:23 PM, Ben Ogrodnik  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for all your suggestions on experimental/independent films containing 
> women's voice-over narration. This has been so helpful!  -Ben
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>1. Re: experimental/feminist films with a woman's voice-over
>   narration? (Chuck Kleinhans)
>2. Re: experimental/feminist films with a woman's voice-over
>   narration? (jimmyschaus1 .)
>3. Aaton LTR (Eric Stewart)
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> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Chuck Kleinhans  >
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> Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2017 17:20:03 +
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] experimental/feminist films with a woman's 
> voice-over   narration?
> I agree with others that many experimental works by women use a woman’s voice 
> or voices.
> 
> It might be useful to recall that what was often novel in women’s films in 
> the 60s-70s era was dealing with a narrator or in documentary experts or 
> witnesses who were women.  We might connect this with changing conditions and 
> technologies of production that made synch sound recording cheaper and more 
> accessible for artisan filmmaking. as well as women artists having a special 
> interest in women saying things as well as looking at things.  The modes of 
> silent, sound, and synch sound in experimental film also play a part.  For 
> example, we see a lot of Jane Brakhage in her husband’s work, but do we ever 
> hear her?
> 
>  I remember after a screening of a 90 minute early feminist film of the late 
> sixties, one of my feminist friends remarking about the guys attending, “I’ll 
> be that’s the first time most of them listened to women talking for so long 
> and not leaving or interrupting them.”
> 
> Chuck Kleinhans
> 
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> From: "jimmyschaus1 ." >
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> Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2017 12:26:24 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] experimental/feminist films with a woman's 
> voice-over narration?
> jennifer reeder "white trash girl"  
> 
> On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 12:20 PM, Chuck Kleinhans  > wrote:
> I agree with others that many experimental works by women use a woman’s voice 
> or voices.
> 
> It might be useful to recall that what was often novel in women’s films in 
> the 60s-70s era was dealing with a narrator or in documentary experts or 
> witnesses who were women.  We might connect this with changing conditions and 
> technologies of production that made synch sound recording cheaper and more 
> accessible for artisan filmmaking. as well as women artists having a special 
> interest in women saying things as well as looking at things.  The modes of 
> silent, sound, and synch sound in experimental film also play a part.  For 
> example, we see a lot of Jane Brakhage in her husband’s work, but do we ever 
> hear her?
> 
>  I remember after a screening of a 90 minute early feminist film of the late 
> sixties, one of my feminist friends remarking about the guys attending, “I’ll 
> be that’s the first time most of them listened to women talking for so long 
> and not leaving or interrupting them.”
> 
> Chuck Kleinhans
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> Date: Fri, 3 

Re: [Frameworks] FrameWorks Digest, Vol 90, Issue 3

2017-11-04 Thread Ben Ogrodnik
Thanks for all your suggestions on experimental/independent films
containing women's voice-over narration. This has been so helpful!  -Ben

On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 8:00 AM, 
wrote:

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> than "Re: Contents of FrameWorks digest..."
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> Today's Topics:
>
>1. Re: experimental/feminist films with a woman's voice-over
>   narration? (Chuck Kleinhans)
>2. Re: experimental/feminist films with a woman's voice-over
>   narration? (jimmyschaus1 .)
>3. Aaton LTR (Eric Stewart)
>
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Chuck Kleinhans 
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List 
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2017 17:20:03 +
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] experimental/feminist films with a woman's
> voice-over narration?
> I agree with others that many experimental works by women use a woman’s
> voice or voices.
>
> It might be useful to recall that what was often novel in women’s films in
> the 60s-70s era was dealing with a narrator or in documentary experts or
> witnesses who were women.  We might connect this with changing conditions
> and technologies of production that made synch sound recording cheaper and
> more accessible for artisan filmmaking. as well as women artists having a
> special interest in women saying things as well as looking at things.  The
> modes of silent, sound, and synch sound in experimental film also play a
> part.  For example, we see a lot of Jane Brakhage in her husband’s work,
> but do we ever hear her?
>
>  I remember after a screening of a 90 minute early feminist film of the
> late sixties, one of my feminist friends remarking about the guys
> attending, “I’ll be that’s the first time most of them listened to women
> talking for so long and not leaving or interrupting them.”
>
> Chuck Kleinhans
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: "jimmyschaus1 ." 
> To: Experimental Film Discussion List 
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2017 12:26:24 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] experimental/feminist films with a woman's
> voice-over narration?
> jennifer reeder "white trash girl"  
>
> On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 12:20 PM, Chuck Kleinhans <
> chuck...@northwestern.edu> wrote:
>
>> I agree with others that many experimental works by women use a woman’s
>> voice or voices.
>>
>> It might be useful to recall that what was often novel in women’s films
>> in the 60s-70s era was dealing with a narrator or in documentary experts or
>> witnesses who were women.  We might connect this with changing conditions
>> and technologies of production that made synch sound recording cheaper and
>> more accessible for artisan filmmaking. as well as women artists having a
>> special interest in women saying things as well as looking at things.  The
>> modes of silent, sound, and synch sound in experimental film also play a
>> part.  For example, we see a lot of Jane Brakhage in her husband’s work,
>> but do we ever hear her?
>>
>>  I remember after a screening of a 90 minute early feminist film of the
>> late sixties, one of my feminist friends remarking about the guys
>> attending, “I’ll be that’s the first time most of them listened to women
>> talking for so long and not leaving or interrupting them.”
>>
>> Chuck Kleinhans
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> From: Eric Stewart 
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> Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2017 14:45:44 -0600
> Subject: [Frameworks] Aaton LTR
> Hey frameworkers ,
>
> I’m in the market for an aaton ltr or even an Arri sr2 (super16).  If you
> know of anyone selling one please send them my way.
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Eric Stewart
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Department of Film Studies // History of Art and Architecture
2017-2018 Mellon Fellow in Curation and Education

University of Pittsburgh
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