Re: [Frameworks] Labs in Israel?
Everyone has an opinion or a theory on this, all I can tell you is that I've shipped film across Canada and to the U.S. using national post services with no stickers identifying the contents and have never had a roll go bad. I've also had film x-ray'd in my carry on in Mexico with no effects. My 2 cents is that I don't think any postage gets x-ray'd because the massive volume of mail would be too expensive to monitor and the time delay too great. Just think about how long it takes to get through airport security, where they have to stop and scrutinized the contents of your carry on bag. The U.S.P.S. handled 167 billion pieces of mail in 2010, can they afford to have an employee scanning and inspecting every single item? If they do x-ray packages, it would probably only be for those shipped via Air, since the cost is higher and the general paranoia surrounding airport security. John From: Scott Dorsey klu...@panix.com To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2012 6:34:14 AM Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Labs in Israel? I've had post office employees refuse to promise me do not x-ray carries a= ny weight, were they wrong? The post office is not FedEx. The post office normally doesn't x-ray anything but under special conditions they will use all sorts of machinery that is hazardous to film. After the anthrax scare, all kinds of stuff going in and out of various museums in Washington DC has become a problem. Do you really just need to write that on your pa= ckages? I like the big stickers from Markertek. But you need to ship by someone like FedEx or Danzas who carry a lot of film (well, maybe not so much anymore) and know how to deal with it. --scott ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Labs in Israel?
Fedex does not X-ray if you mark DO NOT X-RAY on the outside of the box. The TSA they will X-ray it no matter what it says on the box if nobody is looking. --scott ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
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*Thanks a billion for that insight. -Jason* On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 8:49 PM, Scott Dorsey klu...@panix.com wrote: Fedex does not X-ray if you mark DO NOT X-RAY on the outside of the box. The TSA they will X-ray it no matter what it says on the box if nobody is looking. --scott ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Labs in Israel?
I FedEx everything back home, or FedEx directly to the lab. Within the US I'll often just send FedEx Ground since it's kept cool and the extra day or two isn't a problem. Outside the US I will usually use whatever the cheapest way is (which is not normally very cheap). Flying with film has become a nightmare. Used to be you could just bring a changing bag and set aside an extra hour and have the security guy put one hand in the bag and you put another hand in the bag and open up the cans and let him feel around. These days I don't think that would go over very well. I feel lucky just to get myself through security let alone a thousand feet of ECO. And yes, if you put it in the lead bags, the normal response is to get a hand inspection which you could have just asked for in the first place. Sadly the hand inspection often involves opening up cans that are marked OPEN ONLY IN DARKROOM. You don't need an inspection like that. --scott ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
Re: [Frameworks] Labs in Israel?
So if you film internationally, super 8, do you FedEx it home and process
at home???
On Wednesday, July 25, 2012, Ekrem Serdar wrote:
No super 8 processing in Turkey - the guys who sell Super 8, send it off
to Germany.
I remember someone on here mentioning that X-ray bags just freaks em out
and they just yank up the cancer. Just make sure it's carry on as passenger
X-rays tend to be weaker (as this list has pointed out in previous air
travel discussions.)
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On Jul 24, 2012, at 7:17 PM, Jason Stauffacher
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Ebay sells X-ray proof bags. No need to process.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/FILM-SHIELD-Sima-Brand-X-RAY-BAG-2-for-Air-Travelers-/380457208557?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item5895044aed#ht_2745wt_966
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On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Diana Arce
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Hi Frameworkers,
I'm traveling to Israel but I am thinking about bringing a Super 8
camera to Jerusalem and Tel Aviv and I think it would be best to process
the film there. Any tips?
No lab in Israel that I am aware of Egypt, yes, Lebanon, Turkey, yes,
though I believe these labs all handle 16 and 35, don't know about
super8... though I think one
of the labs in Turkey does super8 color?
I'm on the other side of the world though, so perhaps someone else on the
list has more info.
Best,
Alain
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Re: [Frameworks] Labs in Israel?
Usually I just waited and processed back at the states. While I've seen
some 16mm by other people be effected by the X-ray, my super 8 (tri-x and
ekta) has looked fine when carry on. And Turkish airports use huge scary
looking X-rays, and you go through em twice (once at entrance, one more
time before you approach a US bound plane.) So those flicks certainly got
toasted a bit
Sometimes you can convince them to handcheck it (which you should always do
in the US) and I always carried a changing bag with me in case they'd
accept. And maybe Israel might be a bit more straightforward with that
stuff, who knows.
But yea, my stuff looks fine in that regard, but might want to hear that
from more people to settle your concerns.
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On Jul 25, 2012, at 9:31 PM, Jason Stauffacher jasonstauffac...@gmail.com
wrote:
So if you film internationally, super 8, do you FedEx it home and process
at home???
On Wednesday, July 25, 2012, Ekrem Serdar wrote:
No super 8 processing in Turkey - the guys who sell Super 8, send it off
to Germany.
I remember someone on here mentioning that X-ray bags just freaks em out
and they just yank up the cancer. Just make sure it's carry on as passenger
X-rays tend to be weaker (as this list has pointed out in previous air
travel discussions.)
--
ekrem serdar
austin, tx
On Jul 24, 2012, at 7:17 PM, Jason Stauffacher
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Ebay sells X-ray proof bags. No need to process.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/FILM-SHIELD-Sima-Brand-X-RAY-BAG-2-for-Air-Travelers-/380457208557?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item5895044aed#ht_2745wt_966
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On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Diana Arce
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Hi Frameworkers,
I'm traveling to Israel but I am thinking about bringing a Super 8
camera to Jerusalem and Tel Aviv and I think it would be best to process
the film there. Any tips?
No lab in Israel that I am aware of Egypt, yes, Lebanon, Turkey, yes,
though I believe these labs all handle 16 and 35, don't know about
super8... though I think one
of the labs in Turkey does super8 color?
I'm on the other side of the world though, so perhaps someone else on the
list has more info.
Best,
Alain
--
40 FRAMES
Alain LeTourneau
Pam Minty
40 FRAMES
5232 North Williams Avenue
Portland, Oregon 97217
USA
+1 503 231 6548
www.40frames.org
www.16mmdirectory.org
www.emptyquarterfilm.org
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Re: [Frameworks] Labs in Israel?
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Diana Arce da...@visualosmosis.com wrote: Hi Frameworkers, I'm traveling to Israel but I am thinking about bringing a Super 8 camera to Jerusalem and Tel Aviv and I think it would be best to process the film there. Any tips? No lab in Israel that I am aware of Egypt, yes, Lebanon, Turkey, yes, though I believe these labs all handle 16 and 35, don't know about super8... though I think one of the labs in Turkey does super8 color? I'm on the other side of the world though, so perhaps someone else on the list has more info. Best, Alain -- 40 FRAMES Alain LeTourneau Pam Minty 40 FRAMES 5232 North Williams Avenue Portland, Oregon 97217 USA +1 503 231 6548 www.40frames.org www.16mmdirectory.org www.emptyquarterfilm.org ___ FrameWorks mailing list FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com https://mailman-mail5.webfaction.com/listinfo/frameworks
