Re: [Frameworks] Weapons and the military in avant-garde cinema?

2014-01-29 Thread Gawthrop, Rob
Peace  Plenty: Ivor Montague
Hell Unlimited: Norman Mclaren  Helen Biggar

Rob


On 28/01/2014 20:49, John McAndrew jj.mcand...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello all,

 For a little under a year my main source of income has come through working
 as a gallery warden in a historical museum specializing in arms and armour
 (it's a questionable place to work in admittedly, but anyway...). Recently
 the museum's cinema space has become freely available to staff members to
 use on evenings whenever it's available and given both the digital and
 potential film projection facilities available, and the cinema itself being
 housed in quite a unique location, I've been pondering over the idea of
 independently programming a selection of experimental/underground/artists'
 films and videos that ties together the avant-garde as we commonly know
 it with its original military terminology. Either way, it would make a
 refreshing change to the current programming decisions of showing Hollywood
 war and action films that everyone has seen a hundred times over...

 Can anyone on FrameWorks offer any suggestions for moving image works -
 both new or old, landmark or obscure, abstract or representative - that may
 explore such vanguard themes? Or know of any existing curated screenings or
 written texts that have also explored this connection? I'm open to hearing
 any and all suggestions for works involving the military and armed forces,
 weapon technology (firearms, explosives, swords etc), armour, combat
 and self-defence, historical battles or wars (maybe even fictional ones
 too), appropriated war/training films, critiques of the armed forces,
 militias, laws involving the right to keep and bear arms, etc etc etc...

 Many thanks for reading!

 Best,
 John


Falmouth University

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Re: [Frameworks] Weapons and the military in avant-garde cinema?

2014-01-29 Thread Christian Gosvig Olesen
James T. Hong's The Form of the Good (2006):

http://www.ubu.com/film/hong_form.html

The very recent Light Cone screening of War/Military themed films (in
which Hong's film was also included) might also be worth checking out:

http://lightcone.org/fr/news-319-scratch-nous-ne-sommes-pas-les-derniers


2014-01-29, Gawthrop, Rob rob.gawth...@falmouth.ac.uk:
 Peace  Plenty: Ivor Montague
 Hell Unlimited: Norman Mclaren  Helen Biggar

 Rob


 On 28/01/2014 20:49, John McAndrew jj.mcand...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello all,

 For a little under a year my main source of income has come through
 working
 as a gallery warden in a historical museum specializing in arms and
 armour
 (it's a questionable place to work in admittedly, but anyway...).
 Recently
 the museum's cinema space has become freely available to staff members to
 use on evenings whenever it's available and given both the digital and
 potential film projection facilities available, and the cinema itself
 being
 housed in quite a unique location, I've been pondering over the idea of
 independently programming a selection of
 experimental/underground/artists'
 films and videos that ties together the avant-garde as we commonly know
 it with its original military terminology. Either way, it would make a
 refreshing change to the current programming decisions of showing
 Hollywood
 war and action films that everyone has seen a hundred times over...

 Can anyone on FrameWorks offer any suggestions for moving image works -
 both new or old, landmark or obscure, abstract or representative - that
 may
 explore such vanguard themes? Or know of any existing curated screenings
 or
 written texts that have also explored this connection? I'm open to
 hearing
 any and all suggestions for works involving the military and armed
 forces,
 weapon technology (firearms, explosives, swords etc), armour, combat
 and self-defence, historical battles or wars (maybe even fictional ones
 too), appropriated war/training films, critiques of the armed forces,
 militias, laws involving the right to keep and bear arms, etc etc etc...

 Many thanks for reading!

 Best,
 John


 Falmouth University

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Re: [Frameworks] Weapons and the military in avant-garde cinema?

2014-01-29 Thread John Knecht
John,

Dan Reeves Smothering Dreams video and my 16mm film Aspects of a Certain
History both deal with the war in Vietnam as experimental media works.
Also Brakhage's  23 Psalm.   If you would like a dvd copy of my film, I
would be glad to send you one.

John Knecht


On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 3:49 PM, John McAndrew jj.mcand...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hello all,

 For a little under a year my main source of income has come through
 working as a gallery warden in a historical museum specializing in arms and
 armour (it's a questionable place to work in admittedly, but anyway...).
 Recently the museum's cinema space has become freely available to staff
 members to use on evenings whenever it's available and given both the
 digital and potential film projection facilities available, and the cinema
 itself being housed in quite a unique location, I've been pondering over
 the idea of independently programming a selection of
 experimental/underground/artists' films and videos that ties together the
 avant-garde as we commonly know it with its original military
 terminology. Either way, it would make a refreshing change to the current
 programming decisions of showing Hollywood war and action films that
 everyone has seen a hundred times over...

 Can anyone on FrameWorks offer any suggestions for moving image works -
 both new or old, landmark or obscure, abstract or representative - that may
 explore such vanguard themes? Or know of any existing curated screenings or
 written texts that have also explored this connection? I'm open to hearing
 any and all suggestions for works involving the military and armed forces,
 weapon technology (firearms, explosives, swords etc), armour, combat
 and self-defence, historical battles or wars (maybe even fictional ones
 too), appropriated war/training films, critiques of the armed forces,
 militias, laws involving the right to keep and bear arms, etc etc etc...

 Many thanks for reading!

 Best,
 John

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Re: [Frameworks] Weapons and the military in avant-garde cinema?

2014-01-29 Thread petehumble
Norman McLaren's anti war film 'Neighbours':
 http://www.nfb.ca/film/neighbours_voisins/

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 On 29 Jan 2014, at 7:49 am, John McAndrew jj.mcand...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hello all,
 
 For a little under a year my main source of income has come through working 
 as a gallery warden in a historical museum specializing in arms and armour 
 (it's a questionable place to work in admittedly, but anyway...). Recently 
 the museum's cinema space has become freely available to staff members to use 
 on evenings whenever it's available and given both the digital and potential 
 film projection facilities available, and the cinema itself being housed in 
 quite a unique location, I've been pondering over the idea of independently 
 programming a selection of experimental/underground/artists' films and videos 
 that ties together the avant-garde as we commonly know it with its original 
 military terminology. Either way, it would make a refreshing change to the 
 current programming decisions of showing Hollywood war and action films that 
 everyone has seen a hundred times over...
 
 Can anyone on FrameWorks offer any suggestions for moving image works - both 
 new or old, landmark or obscure, abstract or representative - that may 
 explore such vanguard themes? Or know of any existing curated screenings or 
 written texts that have also explored this connection? I'm open to hearing 
 any and all suggestions for works involving the military and armed forces, 
 weapon technology (firearms, explosives, swords etc), armour, combat and 
 self-defence, historical battles or wars (maybe even fictional ones too), 
 appropriated war/training films, critiques of the armed forces, militias, 
 laws involving the right to keep and bear arms, etc etc etc...
 
 Many thanks for reading!
 
 Best,
 John
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Re: [Frameworks] Weapons and the military in avant-garde cinema?

2014-01-29 Thread Cláudia Faria
Beau Travail by Claire Denis


On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 8:49 PM, John McAndrew jj.mcand...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hello all,

 For a little under a year my main source of income has come through
 working as a gallery warden in a historical museum specializing in arms and
 armour (it's a questionable place to work in admittedly, but anyway...).
 Recently the museum's cinema space has become freely available to staff
 members to use on evenings whenever it's available and given both the
 digital and potential film projection facilities available, and the cinema
 itself being housed in quite a unique location, I've been pondering over
 the idea of independently programming a selection of
 experimental/underground/artists' films and videos that ties together the
 avant-garde as we commonly know it with its original military
 terminology. Either way, it would make a refreshing change to the current
 programming decisions of showing Hollywood war and action films that
 everyone has seen a hundred times over...

 Can anyone on FrameWorks offer any suggestions for moving image works -
 both new or old, landmark or obscure, abstract or representative - that may
 explore such vanguard themes? Or know of any existing curated screenings or
 written texts that have also explored this connection? I'm open to hearing
 any and all suggestions for works involving the military and armed forces,
 weapon technology (firearms, explosives, swords etc), armour, combat
 and self-defence, historical battles or wars (maybe even fictional ones
 too), appropriated war/training films, critiques of the armed forces,
 militias, laws involving the right to keep and bear arms, etc etc etc...

 Many thanks for reading!

 Best,
 John

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Re: [Frameworks] Weapons and the military in avant-garde cinema?

2014-01-29 Thread Peter Snowdon

Hi John,

I think you and your audience would find Wendy Morris's Bully Beef 
rather interesting, particularly the third part which is focused on 
military technology:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_tgPDj32PP4
http://www.art-action.org/proposition/catalogue/detail_cat.php?codeoeuvre=B37982lang=enqui=realioeuvre=B37982
Her film Off the record was made for the Flanders Field museum in Ypres, 
and looks at the unequal treatment of black and white soldiers who 
fought in WWI:

http://films2013.dok-leipzig.de/en/film.aspx?ID=5513

Peter

Le 28/01/14 21:49, John McAndrew a écrit :

Hello all,

For a little under a year my main source of income has come through 
working as a gallery warden in a historical museum specializing in 
arms and armour (it's a questionable place to work in admittedly, but 
anyway...). Recently the museum's cinema space has become freely 
available to staff members to use on evenings whenever it's available 
and given both the digital and potential film projection facilities 
available, and the cinema itself being housed in quite a unique 
location, I've been pondering over the idea of independently 
programming a selection of experimental/underground/artists' films and 
videos that ties together the avant-garde as we commonly know it 
with its original military terminology. Either way, it would make a 
refreshing change to the current programming decisions of showing 
Hollywood war and action films that everyone has seen a hundred times 
over...


Can anyone on FrameWorks offer any suggestions for moving image works 
- both new or old, landmark or obscure, abstract or representative - 
that may explore such vanguard themes? Or know of any existing curated 
screenings or written texts that have also explored this connection? 
I'm open to hearing any and all suggestions for works involving the 
military and armed forces, weapon technology (firearms, explosives, 
swords etc), armour, combat and self-defence, historical battles or 
wars (maybe even fictional ones too), appropriated war/training films, 
critiques of the armed forces, militias, laws involving the right to 
keep and bear arms, etc etc etc...


Many thanks for reading!

Best,
John


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Re: [Frameworks] Weapons and the military in avant-garde cinema?

2014-01-28 Thread William Wees, Dr.
Henri Storck, Histoire du soldat inconnu, B elgium, 1931
Charles Gagnon, The Eighth Day, Canada, 1967

--Bill Wees


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John McAndrew
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Subject: [Frameworks] Weapons and the military in avant-garde cinema?

Hello all,

For a little under a year my main source of income has come through working as 
a gallery warden in a historical museum specializing in arms and armour (it's a 
questionable place to work in admittedly, but anyway...). Recently the museum's 
cinema space has become freely available to staff members to use on evenings 
whenever it's available and given both the digital and potential film 
projection facilities available, and the cinema itself being housed in quite a 
unique location, I've been pondering over the idea of independently programming 
a selection of experimental/underground/artists' films and videos that ties 
together the avant-garde as we commonly know it with its original military 
terminology. Either way, it would make a refreshing change to the current 
programming decisions of showing Hollywood war and action films that everyone 
has seen a hundred times over...

Can anyone on FrameWorks offer any suggestions for moving image works - both 
new or old, landmark or obscure, abstract or representative - that may explore 
such vanguard themes? Or know of any existing curated screenings or written 
texts that have also explored this connection? I'm open to hearing any and all 
suggestions for works involving the military and armed forces, weapon 
technology (firearms, explosives, swords etc), armour, combat and self-defence, 
historical battles or wars (maybe even fictional ones too), appropriated 
war/training films, critiques of the armed forces, militias, laws involving the 
right to keep and bear arms, etc etc etc...

Many thanks for reading!

Best,
John
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Re: [Frameworks] Weapons and the military in avant-garde cinema?

2014-01-28 Thread Chuck Kleinhans

IF you want to stretch a bit, there's a group of films that show, document, 
etc. protests against weapons such as the anti-nuke movement in the 50s on, and 
films showing anti-war protests.

Jonas Mekas, his diary film of the 50s on (under some different titles as it 
evolved, as I remember--try Lost Lost Lost) includes a very poignant section of 
people protesting against air-raid drills in the 1950s.

Not quite so avant garde, but still original Peter Watkins: Culloden, a you 
are there docudrama of the turning point battle in the Highlands depicting the 
devastating power of British rifles against what amounted to stone age weapons 
of the Scots.  Perhaps especially appropriate for a museum of arms.  And 
powerfully anti-war.


There have been some powerful films about specific weapon systems:  Agent 
Orange and land mines, etc.  Usually in the aftermath and about the after 
effects.

Haroun Farocki's Inextinguishable Fires, on Napalm is pretty powerful, and 
experimental.



Chuck Kleinhans




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Re: [Frameworks] Weapons and the military in avant-garde cinema?

2014-01-28 Thread Jorge Lorenzo Flores Garza
This is one from Mexico.  A short and dimple piece I found interesting and used 
in a program a while ago:





















DE NEGOCIOS Y PLACER, Dir. Iván Edeza, 2000, video NTSC, color, sonido,
1:37 min.






And I can't help think about Marie Menken's Hurry! Hurry!

Best.

From: chuck...@northwestern.edu
To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
Date: Tue, 28 Jan 2014 23:32:11 +
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] Weapons and the military in avant-garde cinema?









IF you want to stretch a bit, there's a group of films that show, document, 
etc. protests against weapons such as the anti-nuke movement in the 50s on, and 
films showing anti-war protests.



Jonas Mekas, his diary film of the 50s on (under some different titles as it 
evolved, as I remember--try Lost Lost Lost) includes a very poignant section of 
people protesting against air-raid drills in the 1950s.



Not quite so avant garde, but still original Peter Watkins: Culloden, a you 
are there docudrama of the turning point battle in the Highlands depicting the 
devastating power of British rifles against what amounted to stone age weapons 
of the Scots.
  Perhaps especially appropriate for a museum of arms.  And powerfully anti-war.







There have been some powerful films about specific weapon systems:  Agent 
Orange and land mines, etc.  Usually in the aftermath and about the after 
effects.



Haroun Farocki's Inextinguishable Fires, on Napalm is pretty powerful, and 
experimental.









Chuck Kleinhans















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Re: [Frameworks] Weapons and the military in avant-garde cinema?

2014-01-28 Thread Buck Bito - Movette
An extremely skin-crawling short work that includes relatively modern
air-targeting footage and WWII propaganda images all draped with a creepy
gauziness:

I Cannot Speak Without Shaking by Todd Hermann
2007 - Video - 5 minutes
Written by Patricia Berne
http://www.todd-herman.com/video/#ics

---Buck Bito
Lawrence Buck Bito
Movette Film Transfer
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San Francisco, CA 94110
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415-558-8815
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Re: [Frameworks] Weapons and the military in avant-garde cinema?

2014-01-28 Thread John Woods
Backbone by Tom Braidwood 1972

Its a loop of a WW2 soldier yelling 'Fire' followed by a canon blast. Becomes 
rather comedic and subversive.




On Tuesday, January 28, 2014 5:47:24 PM, Buck Bito - Movette 
b...@movettefilm.com wrote:
 
An extremely skin-crawling short work that includes relatively modern
air-targeting footage and WWII propaganda images all draped with a creepy
gauziness:

I Cannot Speak Without Shaking by Todd Hermann
2007 - Video - 5 minutes
Written by Patricia Berne
http://www.todd-herman.com/video/#ics

---Buck Bito
Lawrence Buck Bito
Movette Film Transfer
1407 Valencia St.
San Francisco, CA 94110
(Valencia at 25th St.)
415-558-8815
Open Tuesday - Saturday
Tue+Thu: 8-6, Wed+Fri: 9-6, Sat: 10-4
www.movettefilm.com



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Re: [Frameworks] Weapons and the military in avant-garde cinema?

2014-01-28 Thread Adam Hyman
Georg by Stanton Kaye (1964):
http://alternativeprojections.com/data/filmDetail.php?film=georgstantonkay
Won the Los Angeles Filmmakers Festival that year.



On 1/28/14 7:53 PM, John Woods jawood...@yahoo.ca wrote:

 Backbone by Tom Braidwood 1972
 
 Its a loop of a WW2 soldier yelling 'Fire' followed by a canon blast. Becomes
 rather comedic and subversive.
  
  
   On Tuesday, January 28, 2014 5:47:24 PM, Buck Bito - Movette
 b...@movettefilm.com wrote:
   
   
 An extremely skin-crawling short work that includes relatively modern
 air-targeting footage and WWII propaganda images all draped with a creepy
 gauziness:
 
 I Cannot Speak Without Shaking by Todd Hermann
 2007 - Video - 5 minutes
 Written by Patricia Berne
 http://www.todd-herman.com/video/#ics
 
 ---Buck Bito
 Lawrence Buck Bito
 Movette Film Transfer
 1407 Valencia St.
 San Francisco, CA 94110
 (Valencia at 25th St.)
 415-558-8815
 Open Tuesday - Saturday
 Tue+Thu: 8-6, Wed+Fri: 9-6, Sat: 10-4
 www.movettefilm.co
 
 On Tue, January 28, 2014 12:49 pm, John McAndrew wrote:
  Can anyone on FrameWorks offer any suggestions for moving image works -
  both new or old, landmark or obscure, abstract or representative - that
  may explore such vanguard themes?
 
  Best,
  John

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