Re: [Frameworks] eco-friendly developing with organic coffee

2011-08-31 Thread Robert Schaller
Sorry for the belated post, but (should anyone care to look) an account of
our Jamaican processing and the recipe we used is now up at:

http://www.handmadefilm.org/research/coffeeAscorbate/index.html

-Robert Schaller

On 8/30/11 9:47 AM, "Kevin Obsatz"  wrote:

> We also used coffee as a developer at the Handmade Film Institute Workshop in
> Jamaica last spring - it worked brilliantly. Robert Schaller knows the
> details.
> 
> http://www.handmadefilm.org/
> 
> -Kevin Obsatz
> 
> 
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Re: [Frameworks] eco-friendly developing with organic coffee

2011-08-30 Thread Kevin Obsatz
We also used coffee as a developer at the Handmade Film Institute Workshop in 
Jamaica last spring - it worked brilliantly. Robert Schaller knows the details.

http://www.handmadefilm.org/

-Kevin Obsatz



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Re: [Frameworks] eco-friendly developing with organic coffee

2011-08-29 Thread Stefan Grabowski

Coffee was used for both the first and second developer. Vitamin C (in the form 
of Emergen-C drink mix) was added to speed up the process. Also, to the person 
that asked if the sepia toning came from the coffee - yes. Thanks for all the 
positive responses from everyone.

-Stefan Grabowski
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 02:00:27 -0700
From: dickyvann...@gmail.com
To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] eco-friendly developing with organic coffee

Hey Stefan,
In your notes on the videos, you say development took only an hour... did you 
use the coffee developer for both the first and second developer? Or only the 
second? If only for the second developer, what did you use for the first? The 
processing looks beautiful... Thanks!

Rick Bahto

On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 3:16 PM, Stefan Grabowski  wrote:






I've been playing around with this method for over a year (though admittedly 
with non-organic coffee).  Here's some video of super-8 reversal I developed 
with coffee: http://vimeo.com/10148379 and http://vimeo.com/10148082.  I've 
also heard that table salt can be used as fixer if you give it enough time and 
was always curious about the possibility of a non-toxic bleach made from 
over-the-counter chemicals - perhaps something based on hydrogen peroxide. Any 
chemists out there?


 -Stefan Grabowski
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From: Pip Chodorov 
Subject: [Frameworks] eco-friendly developing with organic coffee
To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com

Date: Friday, August 26, 2011, 10:03 AM

Dear FrameWorkers,
My friend Enrico in Colombia has succeeded in developing with coffee.
There is a recipe and a test result on his blog http://kinocoffe.blogspot.com/.

Has anyone else played with this?
...and no wisecracks please about developing a "coffee filter" for 
final cut pro to mimic
 this result!
-Pip
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Re: [Frameworks] eco-friendly developing with organic coffee

2011-08-29 Thread 40 Frames
Legacy Pro makes a neutral fixer... as well as other low toxicity chemistry
under the EcoPro name.
http://www.freestylephoto.biz/1231289-LegacyPro-EcoPro-BandW-Neutral-Fixer-1-Quart-Makes-1.25-2-Gallons?cat_id=303

Alain



On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 1:55 AM, David Kidman wrote:

> Hi Stefan,
> I used liquidised onions to fix, it takes a while, but does the job. I
> would also be interested in the non-toxic bleach.
> Best,
> david
> Le 29 août 2011 à 00:16, Stefan Grabowski a écrit :
>
> I've been playing around with this method for over a year (though
> admittedly with non-organic coffee).  Here's some video of super-8 reversal
> I developed with coffee: http://vimeo.com/10148379 and
> http://vimeo.com/10148082.  I've also heard that table salt can be used as
> fixer if you give it enough time and was always curious about the
> possibility of a non-toxic bleach made from over-the-counter chemicals -
> perhaps something based on hydrogen peroxide. Any chemists out there?
>
>  -Stefan Grabowski
> http://stefan.radonlake.com
>
>
> --
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> --- On *Fri, 8/26/11, Pip Chodorov * wrote:
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> From: Pip Chodorov 
> Subject: [Frameworks] eco-friendly developing with organic coffee
> To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
> Date: Friday, August 26, 2011, 10:03 AM
>
> Dear FrameWorkers,
> My friend Enrico in Colombia has succeeded in developing with coffee.
> There is a recipe and a test result on his blog
> http://kinocoffe.blogspot.com/.
> Has anyone else played with this?
> ...and no wisecracks please about developing a "coffee filter" for
> final cut pro to mimic this result!
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Re: [Frameworks] eco-friendly developing with organic coffee

2011-08-29 Thread Dinorah de Jesús Rodriguez
Absolutely! love the sepia tone - is that produced by the coffee?

enjoy today...

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Multimedia Artist

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On Aug 29, 2011, at 6:04 AM, miriam sampaio wrote:

> Hi Stefan
> That footage is really really beautiful!
> miriam
> 
> From: david.kid...@gmail.com
> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 10:55:28 +0200
> To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
> Subject: Re: [Frameworks] eco-friendly developing with organic coffee
> 
> Hi Stefan,
> I used liquidised onions to fix, it takes a while, but does the job. I would 
> also be interested in the non-toxic bleach.
> Best,
> david
> Le 29 août 2011 à 00:16, Stefan Grabowski a écrit :
> 
> I've been playing around with this method for over a year (though admittedly 
> with non-organic coffee).  Here's some video of super-8 reversal I developed 
> with coffee: http://vimeo.com/10148379 and http://vimeo.com/10148082.  I've 
> also heard that table salt can be used as fixer if you give it enough time 
> and was always curious about the possibility of a non-toxic bleach made from 
> over-the-counter chemicals - perhaps something based on hydrogen peroxide. 
> Any chemists out there?
> 
>  -Stefan Grabowski
> http://stefan.radonlake.com
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Fri, 8/26/11, Pip Chodorov  wrote:
> 
> From: Pip Chodorov 
> Subject: [Frameworks] eco-friendly developing with organic coffee
> To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
> Date: Friday, August 26, 2011, 10:03 AM
> 
> Dear FrameWorkers,
> My friend Enrico in Colombia has succeeded in developing with coffee.
> There is a recipe and a test result on his blog 
> http://kinocoffe.blogspot.com/.
> Has anyone else played with this?
> ...and no wisecracks please about developing a "coffee filter" for 
> final cut pro to mimic this result!
> -Pip
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Re: [Frameworks] eco-friendly developing with organic coffee

2011-08-29 Thread miriam sampaio

Hi Stefan
That footage is really really beautiful!
miriam

From: david.kid...@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 10:55:28 +0200
To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] eco-friendly developing with organic coffee



Hi Stefan,I used liquidised onions to fix, it takes a while, but does the job. 
I would also be interested in the non-toxic bleach.Best,david
Le 29 août 2011 à 00:16, Stefan Grabowski a écrit :I've been playing around 
with this method for over a year (though admittedly with non-organic coffee).  
Here's some video of super-8 reversal I developed with coffee: 
http://vimeo.com/10148379 and http://vimeo.com/10148082.  I've also heard that 
table salt can be used as fixer if you give it enough time and was always 
curious about the possibility of a non-toxic bleach made from over-the-counter 
chemicals - perhaps something based on hydrogen peroxide. Any chemists out 
there?

 -Stefan Grabowski
http://stefan.radonlake.com



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From: Pip Chodorov 
Subject: [Frameworks] eco-friendly developing with organic coffee
To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
Date: Friday, August 26, 2011, 10:03 AM

Dear FrameWorkers,
My friend Enrico in Colombia has succeeded in developing with coffee.
There is a recipe and a test result on his blog http://kinocoffe.blogspot.com/.
Has anyone else played with this?
...and no wisecracks please about developing a "coffee filter" for 
final cut pro to mimic this result!
-Pip
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Re: [Frameworks] eco-friendly developing with organic coffee

2011-08-29 Thread Dicky
Hey Stefan,
In your notes on the videos, you say development took only an hour... did
you use the coffee developer for both the first and second developer? Or
only the second? If only for the second developer, what did you use for the
first? The processing looks beautiful... Thanks!
Rick Bahto

On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 3:16 PM, Stefan Grabowski wrote:

>  I've been playing around with this method for over a year (though
> admittedly with non-organic coffee).  Here's some video of super-8 reversal
> I developed with coffee: http://vimeo.com/10148379 and
> http://vimeo.com/10148082.  I've also heard that table salt can be used as
> fixer if you give it enough time and was always curious about the
> possibility of a non-toxic bleach made from over-the-counter chemicals -
> perhaps something based on hydrogen peroxide. Any chemists out there?
>
>  -Stefan Grabowski
> http://stefan.radonlake.com
>
>
> --
>
> --- On *Fri, 8/26/11, Pip Chodorov * wrote:
>
>
> From: Pip Chodorov 
> Subject: [Frameworks] eco-friendly developing with organic coffee
> To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
> Date: Friday, August 26, 2011, 10:03 AM
>
> Dear FrameWorkers,
> My friend Enrico in Colombia has succeeded in developing with coffee.
> There is a recipe and a test result on his blog
> http://kinocoffe.blogspot.com/.
> Has anyone else played with this?
> ...and no wisecracks please about developing a "coffee filter" for
> final cut pro to mimic this result!
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Re: [Frameworks] eco-friendly developing with organic coffee

2011-08-29 Thread David Kidman
Hi Stefan,
I used liquidised onions to fix, it takes a while, but does the job. I would 
also be interested in the non-toxic bleach.
Best,
david
Le 29 août 2011 à 00:16, Stefan Grabowski a écrit :

> I've been playing around with this method for over a year (though admittedly 
> with non-organic coffee).  Here's some video of super-8 reversal I developed 
> with coffee: http://vimeo.com/10148379 and http://vimeo.com/10148082.  I've 
> also heard that table salt can be used as fixer if you give it enough time 
> and was always curious about the possibility of a non-toxic bleach made from 
> over-the-counter chemicals - perhaps something based on hydrogen peroxide. 
> Any chemists out there?
> 
>  -Stefan Grabowski
> http://stefan.radonlake.com
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Fri, 8/26/11, Pip Chodorov  wrote:
> 
> From: Pip Chodorov 
> Subject: [Frameworks] eco-friendly developing with organic coffee
> To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
> Date: Friday, August 26, 2011, 10:03 AM
> 
> Dear FrameWorkers,
> My friend Enrico in Colombia has succeeded in developing with coffee.
> There is a recipe and a test result on his blog 
> http://kinocoffe.blogspot.com/.
> Has anyone else played with this?
> ...and no wisecracks please about developing a "coffee filter" for 
> final cut pro to mimic this result!
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Re: [Frameworks] eco-friendly developing with organic coffee

2011-08-28 Thread Stefan Grabowski

I've been playing around with this method for over a year (though admittedly 
with non-organic coffee).  Here's some video of super-8 reversal I developed 
with coffee: http://vimeo.com/10148379 and http://vimeo.com/10148082.  I've 
also heard that table salt can be used as fixer if you give it enough time and 
was always curious about the possibility of a non-toxic bleach made from 
over-the-counter chemicals - perhaps something based on hydrogen peroxide. Any 
chemists out there?

 -Stefan Grabowski
http://stefan.radonlake.com



--- On Fri, 8/26/11, Pip Chodorov  wrote:

From: Pip Chodorov 
Subject: [Frameworks] eco-friendly developing with organic coffee
To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
Date: Friday, August 26, 2011, 10:03 AM

Dear FrameWorkers,
My friend Enrico in Colombia has succeeded in developing with coffee.
There is a recipe and a test result on his blog http://kinocoffe.blogspot.com/.
Has anyone else played with this?
...and no wisecracks please about developing a "coffee filter" for 
final cut pro to mimic
 this result!
-Pip
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