Re: [Frameworks] films using the optical printer

2014-09-25 Thread Amanda Christie
I'm a bit late on this thread, but quite a few of my films were done primarily 
on optical printers.


Fallen Flags - various techniques ... edited in camera on the oxberry optical 
printer using Brian Eno's oblique strategies at every transition to determine 
effect, technique, and next shot in the edit (image choice and duration)... i 
saw this film as an improvisation on the optical printer.

3part Harmony: composition in RGB #1 - colour separation 3 passes edited in 
camera on an oxberry optical printer - this was the opposite of an 
improvisation on the printer as it was meticulously planned out.

Knowledge of Good and Evil - another optical printer improvisation using 
oblique strategies

Mechanical Memory - was done on a JK optical printer

Turning was edited in camera and done on a JK optical printer (not many effects 
though)





Amanda Dawn Christie

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On 2014-08-11, at 9:23 PM, John Woods wrote:

 John Kneller does great work and IIRC he mainly works with 8mm that he blows 
 up using his own equipment:
 
 http://www.cfmdc.org/user/8323
 
 I'll also promote the work of my friend C.J. Brabant, whose colourful 35mm 
 films originated from 8 and 16mm film and he then processed and printed after 
 hours at the Vancouver Technicolor where he worked. All his works are online, 
 my favourite is In Earth
 
 http://www.cjbrabant.com/
 
 
 On Friday, August 8, 2014 4:35:30 PM, Caryn Cline carynycl...@gmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 
 Dear Frameworkers,
 
 As always, your collective minds are amazing.  Thank you all for your 
 suggestions, lists, curricula, links and insights.  I have my work cut out 
 for me to find and screen these films, but that is one of the things I like 
 best.
 
 What would I do without you?
 
 CC
 
 
 On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 9:06 AM, Caryn Cline carynycl...@gmail.com wrote:
 Dear Frameworkers,
 
 If I were going to undertake a series of screenings showcasing optical 
 printer techniques, what work would you recommend?  What is the best work for 
 understanding the cinematic potential in optical printing?  Are there any 
 texts that could be included?  I'm asking for my own enlightenment and to 
 take my own OP work to another level, but I might also try to put together a 
 public screening at some point.
 
 Many thanks, as always, for your thoughts and advice.
 
 CC   
 
 -- 
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 Experimental Filmmaker  Teacher
 vimeo.com/carynyc
 Co-producer  cinematographer, Acts of Witness
 www.actsofwitness.com
 
 
 
 
 
 
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 vimeo.com/carynyc
 Co-producer  cinematographer, Acts of Witness
 www.actsofwitness.com
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Frameworks] films using the optical printer

2014-08-08 Thread Warren Cockerham
It doesn't look like anyone has mentioned Bill Brand's contributions to optical 
printing: his films, collaborations, his archiving assistance, and his 
teaching. 

He's holding a video camera in his homepage image here, but don't met that fool 
you.

http://www.bboptics.com/index.html

Warren






 On Aug 6, 2014, at 12:06 PM, Caryn Cline carynycl...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Dear Frameworkers,
 
 If I were going to undertake a series of screenings showcasing optical 
 printer techniques, what work would you recommend?  What is the best work for 
 understanding the cinematic potential in optical printing?  Are there any 
 texts that could be included?  I'm asking for my own enlightenment and to 
 take my own OP work to another level, but I might also try to put together a 
 public screening at some point.
 
 Many thanks, as always, for your thoughts and advice.
 
 CC   
 
 -- 
 Caryn Cline
 Experimental Filmmaker  Teacher
 vimeo.com/carynyc
 Co-producer  cinematographer, Acts of Witness
 www.actsofwitness.com
 
 
 
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Re: [Frameworks] films using the optical printer

2014-08-08 Thread John Warren
Has anyone mentioned L'Ange (Patrick Bokanowski, 70 min, 1982)?

peace, jw

On Aug 6, 2014, at 11:06 AM, Caryn Cline carynycl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Frameworkers,
 
 If I were going to undertake a series of screenings showcasing optical 
 printer techniques, what work would you recommend?  What is the best work for 
 understanding the cinematic potential in optical printing?  Are there any 
 texts that could be included?  I'm asking for my own enlightenment and to 
 take my own OP work to another level, but I might also try to put together a 
 public screening at some point.
 
 Many thanks, as always, for your thoughts and advice.
 
 CC   
 
 -- 
 Caryn Cline
 Experimental Filmmaker  Teacher
 vimeo.com/carynyc
 Co-producer  cinematographer, Acts of Witness
 www.actsofwitness.com
 
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Re: [Frameworks] films using the optical printer

2014-08-08 Thread Robert Schaller
I second Peter Rose's The Man Who Could Not See Far Enough and Martin 
Arnold's early films.  I'd also suggest my own films Triptych and To the 
Beach, which was made with a JK for which a friend (Chris Healer) and I wrote 
our sequencing program.
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Re: [Frameworks] films using the optical printer

2014-08-08 Thread nicky . hamlyn
Coming late to this. Has anyone mentioned Klaus Wyborny's films?

Nicky.

 

 

 

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From: John Warren johnwar...@alum.calarts.edu
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Sent: Fri, 8 Aug 2014 13:46
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] films using the optical printer


Has anyone mentioned L'Ange (Patrick Bokanowski, 70 min, 1982)?


peace, jw





On Aug 6, 2014, at 11:06 AM, Caryn Cline carynycl...@gmail.com wrote:




Dear Frameworkers,


If I were going to undertake a series of screenings showcasing optical printer 
techniques, what work would you recommend?  What is the best work for 
understanding the cinematic potential in optical printing?  Are there any texts 
that could be included?  I'm asking for my own enlightenment and to take my own 
OP work to another level, but I might also try to put together a public 
screening at some point.


Many thanks, as always, for your thoughts and advice.


CC   


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Experimental Filmmaker  Teacher
vimeo.com/carynyc

Co-producer  cinematographer, Acts of Witness
www.actsofwitness.com







 
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Re: [Frameworks] films using the optical printer

2014-08-08 Thread Caryn Cline
Dear Frameworkers,

As always, your collective minds are amazing.  Thank you all for your
suggestions, lists, curricula, links and insights.  I have my work cut out
for me to find and screen these films, but that is one of the things I like
best.

What would I do without you?

CC


On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 9:06 AM, Caryn Cline carynycl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Frameworkers,

 If I were going to undertake a series of screenings showcasing optical
 printer techniques, what work would you recommend?  What is the best work
 for understanding the cinematic potential in optical printing?  Are there
 any texts that could be included?  I'm asking for my own enlightenment and
 to take my own OP work to another level, but I might also try to put
 together a public screening at some point.

 Many thanks, as always, for your thoughts and advice.

 CC

 --
 Caryn Cline
 Experimental Filmmaker  Teacher
 vimeo.com/carynyc
 Co-producer  cinematographer, *Acts of Witness*
 www.actsofwitness.com






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Re: [Frameworks] films using the optical printer

2014-08-07 Thread Elena Duque
Daïchi Saïto's films, specially Trees of Syntax: Leaves of Axis, Never a
Foot Too Far, Even and All That Rises. He has written about his processes
in his book Moving the Sleeping Images of Things Towards the Light.
El 07/08/2014 04:40, Beebe, Roger W. beebe...@osu.edu escribió:

  In the same spirit as Mark's post, I wanted to note that Peter
 Tscherkassky's Cinemascope trilogy is actually contact printed in short
 stretches (much of it using a laser pointer) rather than optically
 printed.  He must surely have used an optical printer in some of his films
 (maybe Happy End, for ex.), but since the previous poster only dropped
 his name without specific films, I thought it was a point worth
 clarifying...

 R.

  --
 *From:* FrameWorks [frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com] on behalf of
 Mark Toscano [fiddy...@gmail.com]
 *Sent:* Wednesday, August 06, 2014 8:04 PM
 *To:* Experimental Film Discussion List
 *Subject:* Re: [Frameworks] films using the optical printer

   Baillie's CASTRO STREET has no optical printing in it.  It's all
 in-camera matting or A/B/C lab printing.

  Also, it periodically needs to be said that Pat O'Neill's 7362 has NO
 optical printing in it whatsoever.  It's all contact printing and
 hand-processing.  A lot of people tend to talk about Pat's optical work,
 then show 7362 as an example in both public screenings and classes (sorry
 Jason!).  Pat's first foray into optical printing came approximately two
 years later in his installation piece SCREEN (1969), and then with RUNS
 GOOD, etc. after that.

  That said, Pat is, as has already been said, an unparalleled artist in
 the medium, and though optical printing was for him merely a technological
 tool for achieving quite advanced aesthetic ideals, he is unsurpassed in
 his artful and visionary use of the thing.  Probably the most convenient
 and exemplary short film of his for explaining, demonstrating, or teaching
 optical printing work is SAUGUS SERIES, which in some ways functions as
 both a notebook of incredible visual ideas pretty much without precedent,
 and an unintentional compendium of highly diverse suggestive uses for the
 optical printer.  But you pretty much can't go wrong with ANYTHING Pat's
 made.

  Mark Toscano



 On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Stefan Grabowski ste...@radonlake.com
 wrote:

  Bruce Baillie's 'Castro Street' has some really beautiful optical
 printing work.

  --
 From: bigmuddy2...@hotmail.com
 Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 13:32:24 -0600
 To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com

 Subject: Re: [Frameworks] films using the optical printer

 This is a great list! Barbara Hammer would be a good addition

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 6, 2014, at 1:29 PM, Jason Halprin jihalp...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Carolyn,

  Below is the screening list from the last time I taught Optical Printing
 at Columbia College. I agree that Pat O'Neill is probably the greatest
 example of Optical Printing artistry, and include much of his work is
 available for purchase in DVD form. However, I would also stress that it
 was amazing to take the prints of his work and view them on rewinds with a
 light table so that students could really study how he created his looks.
 I love Water and Power too, and usually saved it until the last class in
 the semester.
  -Jason Halprin

 *DAILY SCHEDULE*



 *Class 01 – January 25th *

 Screening:   *Pas de deux* (Norman McLaren, 13 min, 1968)



 *Class 02- February 1st*
 Screening:   *Passage à l'acte* (Martin Arnold, 15 min., 1993)



 *Class 03- February 8th*
 Screening:   *Piece Touche *(Martin Arnold, 15 min., 1989)
 *Zocalo* (Richard Myers, 15 min, 1972)
 *Spitting Image* (Paula Froehle, 3 min., 1992)



 *Class 04- February 15th*
 Screeing: *7362* (Pat O’Neill, 10 min, 1967)
 *Roseblood* (Sharon Couzin, 7 min., 1974)



 *Class 05- February 22nd*

 Screening:   *Watersmith *(Will Hindle, 25 min, 1969)

 *Film Wipe Film* (Paul Glabicki, 32 min, 1984)



 *Class 06 *

 Screening:   *Wild Gunman* (Craig Baldwin, 20 min, 1978)
 *Television Assassination* (Bruce Conner, 14
 min, 1964/95)
 *Cosmic Ray* (Bruce Conner, 4 min, 1961)



 *Class 07- March 8th*
 Screening:   *Alone, Life Wastes Andy Hardy* (Martin Arnold, 15 min,
 1998)
 *Flicker: Unsteady Motion* (Paula Frohele, 7
 min, 1995)





 *Class 08- March 15th*
 Screening:   *Frame* (Ken Kobland, 10 min, 1976)
 *Vestibule* (Ken Kobland, 24 min, 1979)



 *Class 09- March 29th*
 Screening:   *Chinese Fire Drill* (Will Hindle, 25 min, 1968)
 *Runs Good* (Pat O’Neill, 15 min, 1970)





 *Class 10- April 5th*
 Screening:   *Elasticity* (Chick Strand, 25 min, 1976)
 *Babobilicons* (Dana Krummins, 18 min

Re: [Frameworks] films using the optical printer

2014-08-07 Thread Albert Alcoz
Here's another good example:

Richard Tuohy, Etienne's Hand (2011)

http://nanolab.com.au/etienne%27s%20hand.htm

https://vimeo.com/21512772



El Jueves 7 de agosto de 2014 13:03, Elena Duque elenadu...@gmail.com 
escribió:
 


Daïchi Saïto's films, specially Trees of Syntax: Leaves of Axis, Never a Foot 
Too Far, Even and All That Rises. He has written about his processes in his 
book Moving the Sleeping Images of Things Towards the Light.
El 07/08/2014 04:40, Beebe, Roger W. beebe...@osu.edu escribió:

In the same spirit as Mark's post, I wanted to note that Peter Tscherkassky's 
Cinemascope trilogy is actually contact printed in short stretches (much of 
it using a laser pointer) rather than optically printed.  He must surely have 
used an optical printer in some of his films (maybe Happy End, for ex.), but 
since the previous poster only dropped his name without specific films, I 
thought it was a point worth clarifying...

R.




 
From: FrameWorks [frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com] on behalf of Mark 
Toscano [fiddy...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 8:04 PM
To: Experimental Film Discussion List
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] films using the optical printer


Baillie's CASTRO STREET has no optical printing in it.  It's all in-camera 
matting or A/B/C lab printing. 


Also, it periodically needs to be said that Pat O'Neill's 7362 has NO optical 
printing in it whatsoever.  It's all contact printing and hand-processing.  A 
lot of people tend to talk about Pat's optical work, then show 7362 as an 
example in both public screenings and classes (sorry Jason!).  Pat's first 
foray into optical printing came approximately two years later in his 
installation piece SCREEN (1969), and then with RUNS GOOD, etc. after that.



That said, Pat is, as has already been said, an unparalleled artist in the 
medium, and though optical printing was for him merely a technological tool 
for achieving quite advanced aesthetic ideals, he is unsurpassed in his artful 
and visionary use of the thing.  Probably the most convenient and exemplary 
short film of his for explaining, demonstrating, or teaching optical printing 
work is SAUGUS SERIES, which in some ways functions as both a notebook of 
incredible visual ideas pretty much without precedent, and an unintentional 
compendium of highly diverse suggestive uses for the optical printer.  But you 
pretty much can't go wrong with ANYTHING Pat's made.


Mark Toscano





On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Stefan Grabowski ste...@radonlake.com wrote:

Bruce Baillie's 'Castro Street' has some really beautiful optical printing 
work.




 From: bigmuddy2...@hotmail.com
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 13:32:24 -0600
To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com 

Subject: Re: [Frameworks] films using the optical printer


This is a great list! Barbara Hammer would be a good addition 

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 6, 2014, at 1:29 PM, Jason Halprin jihalp...@gmail.com wrote:


Hi Carolyn,


Below is the screening list from the last time I taught Optical Printing at 
Columbia College. I agree that Pat O'Neill is probably the greatest example of 
Optical Printing artistry, and include much of his work is available for 
purchase in DVD form. However, I would also stress that it was amazing to take 
the prints of his work and view them on rewinds with a light table so that 
students could really study how he created his looks. I love Water and Power 
too, and usually saved it until the last class in the semester.

-Jason Halprin


DAILY SCHEDULE
 
Class 01 – January 25th 
Screening:    Pas de deux (Norman McLaren, 13 min, 1968)
 
Class 02- February 1stScreening:   Passage à l'acte (Martin Arnold, 15 
min., 1993)

 
Class 03- February 8thScreening:   Piece Touche (Martin Arnold, 15 min., 
1989) 
         Zocalo (Richard Myers, 15 min, 1972)
    Spitting Image (Paula Froehle, 3 min., 1992)

 
Class 04- February 15thScreeing: 7362 (Pat O’Neill, 10 min, 1967)
    Roseblood (Sharon Couzin, 7 min., 1974)

 
Class 05- February 22nd

Screening:   Watersmith (Will Hindle, 25 min, 1969)
    Film Wipe Film(Paul Glabicki, 32 min, 1984)
 
Class 06 
Screening:   Wild Gunman (Craig Baldwin, 20 min, 1978)
    Television Assassination (Bruce Conner, 14 min, 
1964/95)
    Cosmic Ray (Bruce Conner, 4 min, 1961)

 
Class 07- March 8thScreening:   Alone, Life Wastes Andy Hardy (Martin 
Arnold, 15 min, 1998)
    Flicker: Unsteady Motion (Paula Frohele, 7 min, 1995)

 
 
Class 08- March 15thScreening:   Frame (Ken Kobland, 10 min, 1976)
    Vestibule (Ken Kobland, 24 min, 1979)

 
Class 09- March 29thScreening:   Chinese Fire Drill (Will Hindle, 25 
min, 1968)
    Runs Good (Pat O’Neill, 15 min, 1970)

 
 
Class 10- April 5thScreening

Re: [Frameworks] films using the optical printer

2014-08-07 Thread John Knecht
You have to start with Pat O'neil.


On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 12:06 PM, Caryn Cline carynycl...@gmail.com wrote:

 Dear Frameworkers,

 If I were going to undertake a series of screenings showcasing optical
 printer techniques, what work would you recommend?  What is the best work
 for understanding the cinematic potential in optical printing?  Are there
 any texts that could be included?  I'm asking for my own enlightenment and
 to take my own OP work to another level, but I might also try to put
 together a public screening at some point.

 Many thanks, as always, for your thoughts and advice.

 CC

 --
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 Experimental Filmmaker  Teacher
 vimeo.com/carynyc
 Co-producer  cinematographer, *Acts of Witness*
 www.actsofwitness.com




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Re: [Frameworks] films using the optical printer

2014-08-07 Thread director
And while we're at it... my understanding was that Annabel Nicholson's
Slides (also mentioned in this series of posts) was actually made on a
contact printer, sliding pieces of film along at different speeds. I think
her piece would be particularly hard to do in an optical printer, because
its so fluid.

Chris


 In the same spirit as Mark's post, I wanted to note that Peter
 Tscherkassky's Cinemascope trilogy is actually contact printed in short
 stretches (much of it using a laser pointer) rather than optically
 printed.  He must surely have used an optical printer in some of his films
 (maybe Happy End, for ex.), but since the previous poster only dropped
 his name without specific films, I thought it was a point worth
 clarifying...

 R.

 
 From: FrameWorks [frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com] on behalf of
 Mark Toscano [fiddy...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 8:04 PM
 To: Experimental Film Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [Frameworks] films using the optical printer

 Baillie's CASTRO STREET has no optical printing in it.  It's all in-camera
 matting or A/B/C lab printing.

 Also, it periodically needs to be said that Pat O'Neill's 7362 has NO
 optical printing in it whatsoever.  It's all contact printing and
 hand-processing.  A lot of people tend to talk about Pat's optical work,
 then show 7362 as an example in both public screenings and classes (sorry
 Jason!).  Pat's first foray into optical printing came approximately two
 years later in his installation piece SCREEN (1969), and then with RUNS
 GOOD, etc. after that.

 That said, Pat is, as has already been said, an unparalleled artist in the
 medium, and though optical printing was for him merely a technological
 tool for achieving quite advanced aesthetic ideals, he is unsurpassed in
 his artful and visionary use of the thing.  Probably the most convenient
 and exemplary short film of his for explaining, demonstrating, or teaching
 optical printing work is SAUGUS SERIES, which in some ways functions as
 both a notebook of incredible visual ideas pretty much without precedent,
 and an unintentional compendium of highly diverse suggestive uses for the
 optical printer.  But you pretty much can't go wrong with ANYTHING Pat's
 made.

 Mark Toscano



 On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Stefan Grabowski
 ste...@radonlake.commailto:ste...@radonlake.com wrote:
 Bruce Baillie's 'Castro Street' has some really beautiful optical printing
 work.

 
 From: bigmuddy2...@hotmail.commailto:bigmuddy2...@hotmail.com
 Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 13:32:24 -0600
 To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.commailto:frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com

 Subject: Re: [Frameworks] films using the optical printer

 This is a great list! Barbara Hammer would be a good addition

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 6, 2014, at 1:29 PM, Jason Halprin
 jihalp...@gmail.commailto:jihalp...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Carolyn,

 Below is the screening list from the last time I taught Optical Printing
 at Columbia College. I agree that Pat O'Neill is probably the greatest
 example of Optical Printing artistry, and include much of his work is
 available for purchase in DVD form. However, I would also stress that it
 was amazing to take the prints of his work and view them on rewinds with a
 light table so that students could really study how he created his
 looks. I love Water and Power too, and usually saved it until the last
 class in the semester.
 -Jason Halprin


 DAILY SCHEDULE



 Class 01 – January 25th

 Screening:   Pas de deux (Norman McLaren, 13 min, 1968)



 Class 02- February 1st

 Screening:   Passage à l'acte (Martin Arnold, 15 min., 1993)



 Class 03- February 8th

 Screening:   Piece Touche (Martin Arnold, 15 min., 1989)
 Zocalo (Richard Myers, 15 min, 1972)
 Spitting Image (Paula Froehle, 3 min., 1992)



 Class 04- February 15th

 Screeing: 7362 (Pat O’Neill, 10 min, 1967)
 Roseblood (Sharon Couzin, 7 min., 1974)



 Class 05- February 22nd


 Screening:   Watersmith (Will Hindle, 25 min, 1969)

 Film Wipe Film (Paul Glabicki, 32 min, 1984)



 Class 06

 Screening:   Wild Gunman (Craig Baldwin, 20 min, 1978)
 Television Assassination (Bruce Conner, 14 min,
 1964/95)
 Cosmic Ray (Bruce Conner, 4 min, 1961)



 Class 07- March 8th

 Screening:   Alone, Life Wastes Andy Hardy (Martin Arnold, 15 min,
 1998)
 Flicker: Unsteady Motion (Paula Frohele, 7 min,
 1995)





 Class 08- March 15th

 Screening:   Frame (Ken Kobland, 10 min, 1976)
 Vestibule (Ken Kobland, 24 min, 1979)



 Class 09- March 29th

 Screening:   Chinese Fire Drill (Will Hindle, 25 min, 1968)
 Runs Good (Pat O’Neill, 15 min, 1970)





 Class 10- April 5th

 Screening:   Elasticity (Chick

Re: [Frameworks] films using the optical printer

2014-08-07 Thread nicky . hamlyn
that´s correct. she used the lfmc Debrie machine that is still in use at 
No.w.here. Nicky. 



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From: direc...@lift.on.ca
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Sent: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 17:02
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] films using the optical printer



And while we're at it... my understanding was that Annabel Nicholson's
Slides (also mentioned in this series of posts) was actually made on a
contact printer, sliding pieces of film along at different speeds. I think
her piece would be particularly hard to do in an optical printer, because
its so fluid.

Chris

 In the same spirit as Mark's post, I wanted to note that Peter
 Tscherkassky's Cinemascope trilogy is actually contact printed in short
 stretches (much of it using a laser pointer) rather than optically
 printed.  He must surely have used an optical printer in some of his films
 (maybe Happy End, for ex.), but since the previous poster only dropped
 his name without specific films, I thought it was a point worth
 clarifying...

 R.

 
 From: FrameWorks [frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com] on behalf of
 Mark Toscano [fiddy...@gmail.com]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 8:04 PM
 To: Experimental Film Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [Frameworks] films using the optical printer

 Baillie's CASTRO STREET has no optical printing in it.  It's all in-camera
 matting or A/B/C lab printing.

 Also, it periodically needs to be said that Pat O'Neill's 7362 has NO
 optical printing in it whatsoever.  It's all contact printing and
 hand-processing.  A lot of people tend to talk about Pat's optical work,
 then show 7362 as an example in both public screenings and classes (sorry
 Jason!).  Pat's first foray into optical printing came approximately two
 years later in his installation piece SCREEN (1969), and then with RUNS
 GOOD, etc. after that.

 That said, Pat is, as has already been said, an unparalleled artist in the
 medium, and though optical printing was for him merely a technological
 tool for achieving quite advanced aesthetic ideals, he is unsurpassed in
 his artful and visionary use of the thing.  Probably the most convenient
 and exemplary short film of his for explaining, demonstrating, or teaching
 optical printing work is SAUGUS SERIES, which in some ways functions as
 both a notebook of incredible visual ideas pretty much without precedent,
 and an unintentional compendium of highly diverse suggestive uses for the
 optical printer.  But you pretty much can't go wrong with ANYTHING Pat's
 made.

 Mark Toscano



 On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Stefan Grabowski
 ste...@radonlake.commailto:ste...@radonlake.com wrote:
 Bruce Baillie's 'Castro Street' has some really beautiful optical printing
 work.

 
 From: bigmuddy2...@hotmail.commailto:bigmuddy2...@hotmail.com
 Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 13:32:24 -0600
 To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.commailto:frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com

 Subject: Re: [Frameworks] films using the optical printer

 This is a great list! Barbara Hammer would be a good addition

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 6, 2014, at 1:29 PM, Jason Halprin
 jihalp...@gmail.commailto:jihalp...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Carolyn,

 Below is the screening list from the last time I taught Optical Printing
 at Columbia College. I agree that Pat O'Neill is probably the greatest
 example of Optical Printing artistry, and include much of his work is
 available for purchase in DVD form. However, I would also stress that it
 was amazing to take the prints of his work and view them on rewinds with a
 light table so that students could really study how he created his
 looks. I love Water and Power too, and usually saved it until the last
 class in the semester.
 -Jason Halprin


 DAILY SCHEDULE



 Class 01 – January 25th

 Screening:   Pas de deux (Norman McLaren, 13 min, 1968)



 Class 02- February 1st

 Screening:   Passage à l'acte (Martin Arnold, 15 min., 1993)



 Class 03- February 8th

 Screening:   Piece Touche (Martin Arnold, 15 min., 1989)
 Zocalo (Richard Myers, 15 min, 1972)
 Spitting Image (Paula Froehle, 3 min., 1992)



 Class 04- February 15th

 Screeing: 7362 (Pat O’Neill, 10 min, 1967)
 Roseblood (Sharon Couzin, 7 min., 1974)



 Class 05- February 22nd


 Screening:   Watersmith (Will Hindle, 25 min, 1969)

 Film Wipe Film (Paul Glabicki, 32 min, 1984)



 Class 06

 Screening:   Wild Gunman (Craig Baldwin, 20 min, 1978)
 Television Assassination (Bruce Conner, 14 min,
 1964/95)
 Cosmic Ray (Bruce Conner, 4 min, 1961)



 Class 07- March 8th

 Screening:   Alone, Life Wastes Andy Hardy (Martin Arnold, 15 min,
 1998)
 Flicker: Unsteady Motion (Paula Frohele, 7 min,
 1995)





 Class 08- March 15th

 Screening:   Frame (Ken

Re: [Frameworks] films using the optical printer

2014-08-07 Thread Mariya Nikiforova
Alexandre Larose - Ville Marie (2011)
https://www.filmfestivalrotterdam.com/en/films/ville-marie/


On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 12:36 PM, nicky.ham...@talktalk.net wrote:

 that´s correct. she used the lfmc Debrie machine that is still in use at
 No.w.here. Nicky.



 -Original Message-
 From: direc...@lift.on.ca
 To: Experimental Film Discussion List
 Sent: Thu, 7 Aug 2014 17:02
 Subject: Re: [Frameworks] films using the optical printer

  And while we're at it... my understanding was that Annabel Nicholson's
 Slides (also mentioned in this series of posts) was actually made on a
 contact printer, sliding pieces of film along at different speeds. I think
 her piece would be particularly hard to do in an optical printer, because
 its so fluid.

 Chris


  In the same spirit as Mark's post, I wanted to note that Peter
  Tscherkassky's Cinemascope trilogy is actually contact printed in short
  stretches (much of it using a laser pointer) rather than optically
  printed.  He must surely have used an optical printer in some of his films
  (maybe Happy End, for ex.), but since the previous poster only dropped
  his name without specific films, I thought it was a point worth
  clarifying...
 
  R.
 
  
  From: FrameWorks [frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com] on behalf of
  Mark Toscano [fiddy...@gmail.com]
  Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 8:04 PM
  To: Experimental Film Discussion List
  Subject: Re: [Frameworks] films using the optical printer
 
  Baillie's CASTRO STREET has no optical printing in it.  It's all in-camera
  matting or A/B/C lab printing.
 
  Also, it periodically needs to be said that Pat O'Neill's 7362 has NO
  optical printing in it whatsoever.  It's all contact printing and
  hand-processing.  A lot of people tend to talk about Pat's optical work,
  then show 7362 as an example in both public screenings and classes (sorry
  Jason!).  Pat's first foray into optical printing came approximately two
  years later in his installation piece SCREEN (1969), and then with RUNS
  GOOD, etc. after that.
 
  That said, Pat is, as has already been said, an unparalleled artist in the
  medium, and though optical printing was for him merely a technological
  tool for achieving quite advanced aesthetic ideals, he is unsurpassed in
  his artful and visionary use of the thing.  Probably the most convenient
  and exemplary short film of his for explaining, demonstrating, or teaching
  optical printing work is SAUGUS SERIES, which in some ways functions as
  both a notebook of incredible visual ideas pretty much without precedent,
  and an unintentional compendium of highly diverse suggestive uses for the
  optical printer.  But you pretty much can't go wrong with ANYTHING Pat's
  made.
 
  Mark Toscano
 
 
 
  On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Stefan Grabowski
  ste...@radonlake.commailto:ste...@radonlake.com ste...@radonlake.com? 
  wrote:
  Bruce Baillie's 'Castro Street' has some really beautiful optical printing
  work.
 
  
  From: bigmuddy2...@hotmail.commailto:bigmuddy2...@hotmail.com 
  bigmuddy2...@hotmail.com?
  Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 13:32:24 -0600
  To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.commailto:frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com 
  frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com?
 
  Subject: Re: [Frameworks] films using the optical printer
 
  This is a great list! Barbara Hammer would be a good addition
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Aug 6, 2014, at 1:29 PM, Jason Halprin
  jihalp...@gmail.commailto:jihalp...@gmail.com jihalp...@gmail.com? 
  wrote:
 
  Hi Carolyn,
 
  Below is the screening list from the last time I taught Optical Printing
  at Columbia College. I agree that Pat O'Neill is probably the greatest
  example of Optical Printing artistry, and include much of his work is
  available for purchase in DVD form. However, I would also stress that it
  was amazing to take the prints of his work and view them on rewinds with a
  light table so that students could really study how he created his
  looks. I love Water and Power too, and usually saved it until the last
  class in the semester.
  -Jason Halprin
 
 
  DAILY SCHEDULE
 
 
 
  Class 01 – January 25th
 
  Screening:   Pas de deux (Norman McLaren, 13 min, 1968)
 
 
 
  Class 02- February 1st
 
  Screening:   Passage à l'acte (Martin Arnold, 15 min., 1993)
 
 
 
  Class 03- February 8th
 
  Screening:   Piece Touche (Martin Arnold, 15 min., 1989)
  Zocalo (Richard Myers, 15 min, 1972)
  Spitting Image (Paula Froehle, 3 min., 1992)
 
 
 
  Class 04- February 15th
 
  Screeing: 7362 (Pat O’Neill, 10 min, 1967)
  Roseblood (Sharon Couzin, 7 min., 1974)
 
 
 
  Class 05- February 22nd
 
 
  Screening:   Watersmith (Will Hindle, 25 min, 1969)
 
  Film Wipe Film (Paul Glabicki, 32 min, 1984)
 
 
 
  Class 06
 
  Screening:   Wild Gunman (Craig Baldwin, 20 min, 1978

Re: [Frameworks] films using the optical printer

2014-08-06 Thread Marcos Ortega
How about Pat O'Neill's work? 'Water and power', for example...

On Wed, August 6, 2014 6:06 pm, Caryn Cline wrote:
 Dear Frameworkers,


 If I were going to undertake a series of screenings showcasing optical
 printer techniques, what work would you recommend?  What is the best work
 for understanding the cinematic potential in optical printing?  Are there
  any texts that could be included?  I'm asking for my own enlightenment
 and to take my own OP work to another level, but I might also try to put
 together a public screening at some point.

 Many thanks, as always, for your thoughts and advice.


 CC


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Re: [Frameworks] films using the optical printer

2014-08-06 Thread Gawthrop, Rob
Monkey's Birthday, David Larcher; - colour separation, superimposition, 
bi-packing etc.

Slides, Annabel Nicholson; pulling film through the gate etc

Film Sound, Andy Moss; short edits/loops (sound and picture), superimpositions

(all at LUX, London.)

Rob

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frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.commailto:frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 09:06:12 -0700
To: Experimental Film Discussion List 
FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.commailto:FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com
Subject: [Frameworks] films using the optical printer

Dear Frameworkers,

If I were going to undertake a series of screenings showcasing optical printer 
techniques, what work would you recommend?  What is the best work for 
understanding the cinematic potential in optical printing?  Are there any texts 
that could be included?  I'm asking for my own enlightenment and to take my own 
OP work to another level, but I might also try to put together a public 
screening at some point.

Many thanks, as always, for your thoughts and advice.

CC

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Re: [Frameworks] films using the optical printer

2014-08-06 Thread Adam Hyman
The entire oeuvre of Pat O¹Neill is essential, and very influential.

We did a screening with a various of interesting optically printed films as
part of Alternative Projections.
http://www.alternativeprojections.com/screening-series/visions-memory-and-a-
machine-optical-manipulations/


On 8/6/14 9:22 AM, Gawthrop, Rob rob.gawth...@falmouth.ac.uk wrote:

 Monkey's Birthday, David Larcher; - colour separation, superimposition,
 bi-packing etc.
 
 Slides, Annabel Nicholson; pulling film through the gate etc
 
 Film Sound, Andy Moss; short edits/loops (sound and picture), superimpositions
 
 (all at LUX, London.)
 
 Rob
 
 From: Caryn Cline carynycl...@gmail.com
 Reply-To: Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
 Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 09:06:12 -0700
 To: Experimental Film Discussion List FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com
 Subject: [Frameworks] films using the optical printer
 
 Dear Frameworkers,
 
 If I were going to undertake a series of screenings showcasing optical printer
 techniques, what work would you recommend?  What is the best work for
 understanding the cinematic potential in optical printing?  Are there any
 texts that could be included?  I'm asking for my own enlightenment and to take
 my own OP work to another level, but I might also try to put together a public
 screening at some point.
 
 Many thanks, as always, for your thoughts and advice.
 
 CC   


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Re: [Frameworks] films using the optical printer

2014-08-06 Thread Aaron F. Ross
In my humble opinion, Pat O'Neill is the master 
of optical printing. Water and Power is a great 
film, as are all of his. My personal favorites 
are Trouble in the Image and The Decay of 
Fiction. The latter is perhaps the greatest 
single example of optical printer work ever 
produced, but as far as I know it's not available.


http://www.lookoutmountainstudios.com/store.php


Other optical printing wizards are Adam Beckett, Paul Sharits, François Miron.

--Aaron



At 8/6/2014, you wrote:

Dear Frameworkers,

If I were going to undertake a series of 
screenings showcasing optical printer 
techniques, what work would you recommend? Â 
What is the best work for understanding the 
cinematic potential in optical printing? Â Are 
there any texts that could be included? Â I'm 
asking for my own enlightenment and to take my 
own OP work to another level, but I might also 
try to put together a public screening at some point.


Many thanks, as always, for your thoughts and advice.

CC Â Â

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Re: [Frameworks] films using the optical printer

2014-08-06 Thread Michele Smith
Peter Tscherkassky

 On Aug 6, 2014, at 12:22 PM, c b bigmuddy2...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
 Martin Arnold's early films
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Aug 6, 2014, at 10:06 AM, Caryn Cline carynycl...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Dear Frameworkers,
 
 If I were going to undertake a series of screenings showcasing optical 
 printer techniques, what work would you recommend?  What is the best work 
 for understanding the cinematic potential in optical printing?  Are there 
 any texts that could be included?  I'm asking for my own enlightenment and 
 to take my own OP work to another level, but I might also try to put 
 together a public screening at some point.
 
 Many thanks, as always, for your thoughts and advice.
 
 CC   
 
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 Experimental Filmmaker  Teacher
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 Co-producer  cinematographer, Acts of Witness
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Re: [Frameworks] films using the optical printer

2014-08-06 Thread Jason Halprin
Hi Carolyn,

Below is the screening list from the last time I taught Optical Printing at
Columbia College. I agree that Pat O'Neill is probably the greatest example
of Optical Printing artistry, and include much of his work is available for
purchase in DVD form. However, I would also stress that it was amazing to
take the prints of his work and view them on rewinds with a light table so
that students could really study how he created his looks. I love Water
and Power too, and usually saved it until the last class in the semester.
-Jason Halprin

*DAILY SCHEDULE*



*Class 01 – January 25th *

Screening:   *Pas de deux* (Norman McLaren, 13 min, 1968)



*Class 02- February 1st*

Screening:   *Passage à l'acte* (Martin Arnold, 15 min., 1993)



*Class 03- February 8th*

Screening:   *Piece Touche *(Martin Arnold, 15 min., 1989)

*Zocalo* (Richard Myers, 15 min, 1972)

*Spitting Image* (Paula Froehle, 3 min., 1992)



*Class 04- February 15th*

Screeing: *7362* (Pat O’Neill, 10 min, 1967)

*Roseblood* (Sharon Couzin, 7 min., 1974)



*Class 05- February 22nd*

Screening:   *Watersmith *(Will Hindle, 25 min, 1969)

*Film Wipe Film* (Paul Glabicki, 32 min, 1984)



*Class 06 *

Screening:   *Wild Gunman* (Craig Baldwin, 20 min, 1978)

*Television Assassination* (Bruce Conner, 14 min,
1964/95)

*Cosmic Ray* (Bruce Conner, 4 min, 1961)



*Class 07- March 8th*

Screening:   *Alone, Life Wastes Andy Hardy* (Martin Arnold, 15 min,
1998)

*Flicker: Unsteady Motion* (Paula Frohele, 7 min,
1995)





*Class 08- March 15th*

Screening:   *Frame* (Ken Kobland, 10 min, 1976)

*Vestibule* (Ken Kobland, 24 min, 1979)



*Class 09- March 29th*

Screening:   *Chinese Fire Drill* (Will Hindle, 25 min, 1968)

*Runs Good* (Pat O’Neill, 15 min, 1970)





*Class 10- April 5th*

Screening:   *Elasticity* (Chick Strand, 25 min, 1976)

*Babobilicons* (Dana Krummins, 18 min, 1982)



*Class 11- April 12th*

Screening:   *Nocturne (*Phil Solomon, 10 min, 1980)

*Remains to be Seen* (Phil Solomon, 17 min, 1989)

 *Class 12- April 19th*

Screening:   *The Idea* (Bill Knowland, 20 min, 1990)



*Class 13- April 26th *

Screening:   *Milk and Honey* (Kate McCabe, 17 min, 2004)

*Montessori Sword Fight *(Mary Beth Reed, 7 min,
2002)



*Class 14- May 3rd*

Screening:   *Water and Power* (Pat O’Neill, 54 min, 1989)


Jason Halprin
jihalp...@gmail.com


On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Gene Youngblood ato...@comcast.net wrote:

   I join Marcos and Adam in stressing the importance of Pat O’Neill here.
 Optical printing doesn’t get any better if by that term we mean an art
 form, an aesthetic practice, not a technique.  Another artist from Pat’s
 generation known for his optical printing is Will Hindle

  *From:* Adam Hyman a...@lafilmforum.org
 *Sent:* Wednesday, August 06, 2014 10:57 AM
 *To:* Experimental Film Discussion List frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
 *Subject:* Re: [Frameworks] films using the optical printer

 The entire oeuvre of Pat O’Neill is essential, and very influential.

 We did a screening with a various of interesting optically printed films
 as part of Alternative Projections.

 http://www.alternativeprojections.com/screening-series/visions-memory-and-a-machine-optical-manipulations/


 On 8/6/14 9:22 AM, Gawthrop, Rob rob.gawth...@falmouth.ac.uk wrote:

 Monkey's Birthday, David Larcher; - colour separation, superimposition,
 bi-packing etc.

 Slides, Annabel Nicholson; pulling film through the gate etc

 Film Sound, Andy Moss; short edits/loops (sound and picture),
 superimpositions

 (all at LUX, London.)

 Rob

 From: Caryn Cline carynycl...@gmail.com
 Reply-To: Experimental Film Discussion List 
 frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com
 Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 09:06:12 -0700
 To: Experimental Film Discussion List FrameWorks@jonasmekasfilms.com
 Subject: [Frameworks] films using the optical printer

 Dear Frameworkers,

 If I were going to undertake a series of screenings showcasing optical
 printer techniques, what work would you recommend?  What is the best work
 for understanding the cinematic potential in optical printing?  Are there
 any texts that could be included?  I'm asking for my own enlightenment and
 to take my own OP work to another level, but I might also try to put
 together a public screening at some point.

 Many thanks, as always, for your thoughts and advice.

 CC


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Re: [Frameworks] films using the optical printer

2014-08-06 Thread Mark Toscano
Baillie's CASTRO STREET has no optical printing in it.  It's all in-camera
matting or A/B/C lab printing.

Also, it periodically needs to be said that Pat O'Neill's 7362 has NO
optical printing in it whatsoever.  It's all contact printing and
hand-processing.  A lot of people tend to talk about Pat's optical work,
then show 7362 as an example in both public screenings and classes (sorry
Jason!).  Pat's first foray into optical printing came approximately two
years later in his installation piece SCREEN (1969), and then with RUNS
GOOD, etc. after that.

That said, Pat is, as has already been said, an unparalleled artist in the
medium, and though optical printing was for him merely a technological tool
for achieving quite advanced aesthetic ideals, he is unsurpassed in his
artful and visionary use of the thing.  Probably the most convenient and
exemplary short film of his for explaining, demonstrating, or teaching
optical printing work is SAUGUS SERIES, which in some ways functions as
both a notebook of incredible visual ideas pretty much without precedent,
and an unintentional compendium of highly diverse suggestive uses for the
optical printer.  But you pretty much can't go wrong with ANYTHING Pat's
made.

Mark Toscano



On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Stefan Grabowski ste...@radonlake.com
wrote:

 Bruce Baillie's 'Castro Street' has some really beautiful optical printing
 work.

 --
 From: bigmuddy2...@hotmail.com
 Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 13:32:24 -0600
 To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com

 Subject: Re: [Frameworks] films using the optical printer

 This is a great list! Barbara Hammer would be a good addition

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 6, 2014, at 1:29 PM, Jason Halprin jihalp...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Carolyn,

 Below is the screening list from the last time I taught Optical Printing
 at Columbia College. I agree that Pat O'Neill is probably the greatest
 example of Optical Printing artistry, and include much of his work is
 available for purchase in DVD form. However, I would also stress that it
 was amazing to take the prints of his work and view them on rewinds with a
 light table so that students could really study how he created his looks.
 I love Water and Power too, and usually saved it until the last class in
 the semester.
 -Jason Halprin

 *DAILY SCHEDULE*



 *Class 01 – January 25th *

 Screening:   *Pas de deux* (Norman McLaren, 13 min, 1968)



 *Class 02- February 1st*
 Screening:   *Passage à l'acte* (Martin Arnold, 15 min., 1993)



 *Class 03- February 8th*
 Screening:   *Piece Touche *(Martin Arnold, 15 min., 1989)
 *Zocalo* (Richard Myers, 15 min, 1972)
 *Spitting Image* (Paula Froehle, 3 min., 1992)



 *Class 04- February 15th*
 Screeing: *7362* (Pat O’Neill, 10 min, 1967)
 *Roseblood* (Sharon Couzin, 7 min., 1974)



 *Class 05- February 22nd*

 Screening:   *Watersmith *(Will Hindle, 25 min, 1969)

 *Film Wipe Film* (Paul Glabicki, 32 min, 1984)



 *Class 06 *

 Screening:   *Wild Gunman* (Craig Baldwin, 20 min, 1978)
 *Television Assassination* (Bruce Conner, 14 min,
 1964/95)
 *Cosmic Ray* (Bruce Conner, 4 min, 1961)



 *Class 07- March 8th*
 Screening:   *Alone, Life Wastes Andy Hardy* (Martin Arnold, 15 min,
 1998)
 *Flicker: Unsteady Motion* (Paula Frohele, 7 min,
 1995)





 *Class 08- March 15th*
 Screening:   *Frame* (Ken Kobland, 10 min, 1976)
 *Vestibule* (Ken Kobland, 24 min, 1979)



 *Class 09- March 29th*
 Screening:   *Chinese Fire Drill* (Will Hindle, 25 min, 1968)
 *Runs Good* (Pat O’Neill, 15 min, 1970)





 *Class 10- April 5th*
 Screening:   *Elasticity* (Chick Strand, 25 min, 1976)
 *Babobilicons* (Dana Krummins, 18 min, 1982)



 *Class 11- April 12th*
 Screening:   *Nocturne (*Phil Solomon, 10 min, 1980)
 *Remains to be Seen* (Phil Solomon, 17 min, 1989)


 *Class 12- April 19th*

 Screening:   *The Idea* (Bill Knowland, 20 min, 1990)



 *Class 13- April 26th *

 Screening:   *Milk and Honey* (Kate McCabe, 17 min, 2004)

 *Montessori Sword Fight *(Mary Beth Reed, 7 min,
 2002)



 *Class 14- May 3rd*

 Screening:   *Water and Power* (Pat O’Neill, 54 min, 1989)


 Jason Halprin
 jihalp...@gmail.com


 On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 12:10 PM, Gene Youngblood ato...@comcast.net
 wrote:

   I join Marcos and Adam in stressing the importance of Pat O’Neill here.
 Optical printing doesn’t get any better if by that term we mean an art
 form, an aesthetic practice, not a technique.  Another artist from Pat’s
 generation known for his optical printing is Will Hindle

  *From:* Adam Hyman a...@lafilmforum.org
 *Sent:* Wednesday, August 06, 2014 10:57 AM
 *To:* Experimental Film Discussion List

Re: [Frameworks] films using the optical printer

2014-08-06 Thread Beebe, Roger W.
In the same spirit as Mark's post, I wanted to note that Peter Tscherkassky's 
Cinemascope trilogy is actually contact printed in short stretches (much of 
it using a laser pointer) rather than optically printed.  He must surely have 
used an optical printer in some of his films (maybe Happy End, for ex.), but 
since the previous poster only dropped his name without specific films, I 
thought it was a point worth clarifying...

R.


From: FrameWorks [frameworks-boun...@jonasmekasfilms.com] on behalf of Mark 
Toscano [fiddy...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2014 8:04 PM
To: Experimental Film Discussion List
Subject: Re: [Frameworks] films using the optical printer

Baillie's CASTRO STREET has no optical printing in it.  It's all in-camera 
matting or A/B/C lab printing.

Also, it periodically needs to be said that Pat O'Neill's 7362 has NO optical 
printing in it whatsoever.  It's all contact printing and hand-processing.  A 
lot of people tend to talk about Pat's optical work, then show 7362 as an 
example in both public screenings and classes (sorry Jason!).  Pat's first 
foray into optical printing came approximately two years later in his 
installation piece SCREEN (1969), and then with RUNS GOOD, etc. after that.

That said, Pat is, as has already been said, an unparalleled artist in the 
medium, and though optical printing was for him merely a technological tool for 
achieving quite advanced aesthetic ideals, he is unsurpassed in his artful and 
visionary use of the thing.  Probably the most convenient and exemplary short 
film of his for explaining, demonstrating, or teaching optical printing work is 
SAUGUS SERIES, which in some ways functions as both a notebook of incredible 
visual ideas pretty much without precedent, and an unintentional compendium of 
highly diverse suggestive uses for the optical printer.  But you pretty much 
can't go wrong with ANYTHING Pat's made.

Mark Toscano



On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 12:48 PM, Stefan Grabowski 
ste...@radonlake.commailto:ste...@radonlake.com wrote:
Bruce Baillie's 'Castro Street' has some really beautiful optical printing work.


From: bigmuddy2...@hotmail.commailto:bigmuddy2...@hotmail.com
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 13:32:24 -0600
To: frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.commailto:frameworks@jonasmekasfilms.com

Subject: Re: [Frameworks] films using the optical printer

This is a great list! Barbara Hammer would be a good addition

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 6, 2014, at 1:29 PM, Jason Halprin 
jihalp...@gmail.commailto:jihalp...@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Carolyn,

Below is the screening list from the last time I taught Optical Printing at 
Columbia College. I agree that Pat O'Neill is probably the greatest example of 
Optical Printing artistry, and include much of his work is available for 
purchase in DVD form. However, I would also stress that it was amazing to take 
the prints of his work and view them on rewinds with a light table so that 
students could really study how he created his looks. I love Water and Power 
too, and usually saved it until the last class in the semester.
-Jason Halprin


DAILY SCHEDULE



Class 01 – January 25th

Screening:   Pas de deux (Norman McLaren, 13 min, 1968)



Class 02- February 1st

Screening:   Passage à l'acte (Martin Arnold, 15 min., 1993)



Class 03- February 8th

Screening:   Piece Touche (Martin Arnold, 15 min., 1989)
Zocalo (Richard Myers, 15 min, 1972)
Spitting Image (Paula Froehle, 3 min., 1992)



Class 04- February 15th

Screeing: 7362 (Pat O’Neill, 10 min, 1967)
Roseblood (Sharon Couzin, 7 min., 1974)



Class 05- February 22nd


Screening:   Watersmith (Will Hindle, 25 min, 1969)

Film Wipe Film (Paul Glabicki, 32 min, 1984)



Class 06

Screening:   Wild Gunman (Craig Baldwin, 20 min, 1978)
Television Assassination (Bruce Conner, 14 min, 1964/95)
Cosmic Ray (Bruce Conner, 4 min, 1961)



Class 07- March 8th

Screening:   Alone, Life Wastes Andy Hardy (Martin Arnold, 15 min, 1998)
Flicker: Unsteady Motion (Paula Frohele, 7 min, 1995)





Class 08- March 15th

Screening:   Frame (Ken Kobland, 10 min, 1976)
Vestibule (Ken Kobland, 24 min, 1979)



Class 09- March 29th

Screening:   Chinese Fire Drill (Will Hindle, 25 min, 1968)
Runs Good (Pat O’Neill, 15 min, 1970)





Class 10- April 5th

Screening:   Elasticity (Chick Strand, 25 min, 1976)
Babobilicons (Dana Krummins, 18 min, 1982)



Class 11- April 12th

Screening:   Nocturne (Phil Solomon, 10 min, 1980)
Remains to be Seen (Phil Solomon, 17 min, 1989)


Class 12- April 19th

Screening:   The Idea (Bill Knowland, 20 min, 1990)



Class 13- April 26th


Screening:   Milk and Honey