Re: [free-software-melb] [Australia-public-discuss] Excluding free software from patentability

2012-02-12 Thread Bianca Gibson
Ben, you said you are applying the 'Divide and Conquer' approach to patents (since patents are probably also a real problem in other industries). If software patents as a whole is too large a chunk, perhaps dividing out free software as the first step will be easier? I don't know the

Re: [free-software-melb] [Australia-public-discuss] Excluding free software from patentability

2012-02-12 Thread Adam Bolte
On 12/02/12 21:32, Bianca Gibson wrote: Rather than going off guesswork I think the proportion of people interested in ending software patents that have a soft spot for FS would need to be investigated before any action was taken based on it. How do we know it's not just the active and visible

Re: [free-software-melb] [Australia-public-discuss] Excluding free software from patentability

2012-02-12 Thread Bianca Gibson
On 12 February 2012 22:54, Adam Bolte abo...@systemsaviour.com wrote: My understanding is that we're *already* going off guesswork. We're guessing that going against software patents completely is a better approach to any of the alternatives, without having consulted with any legal experts.

Re: [free-software-melb] [Australia-public-discuss] Excluding free software from patentability

2012-02-12 Thread Matt Giuca
Sorry, it's getting confusing as it seems this list is forking a lot -- some of the replies are going to endsoftwarepatents.org and others aren't. For simplicity (and since I have no idea who is on that other list or how big it is), I'll just keep my reply within MFSIG. On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at

Re: [free-software-melb] [Australia-public-discuss] Excluding free software from patentability

2012-02-12 Thread Russell Coker
On Mon, 13 Feb 2012, Matt Giuca matt.gi...@gmail.com wrote: I'm not trying to incite flaming. The reason I said that it transforms it is that at least in today's environment, all free software developers (GPL and BSD-like) know to avoid patents wherever possible. I'm not going to write a

Re: [free-software-melb] [Australia-public-discuss] Excluding free software from patentability

2012-02-11 Thread Adam Bolte
On 12/02/12 14:42, Ben Sturmfels wrote: On 12/02/12 12:05, Matt Giuca wrote: I thought that there was a really great idea from a commenter at the end of your talk whereby free software would be considered by law 'in the public interest' and becomes except from applying to patent lawsuits at