Re: FreeBSD has a politics problem

2018-03-04 Thread Franco Fichtner
Hi there, > On 4. Mar 2018, at 10:02 PM, Jeff Roberson wrote: > > First of all this is really not an appropriate forum for this discussion. Nobody discusses it elsewhere. "Decisions" are made between closed doors. How anyone would think this doesn't blow up later is

Re: FreeBSD has a politics problem

2018-03-04 Thread Stephen Cook
On 2018-03-04 20:13, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > d...@freebsdfoundation.org wrote: >> Someone else on this thread can hopefully >> direct you to the correct mailing list for discussing your concerns >> regarding the Code of Conduct. Where? > Did the foundation pay for it ? I would like to know

Re: FreeBSD has a politics problem

2018-03-04 Thread Julian H. Stacey
d...@freebsdfoundation.org wrote: > Hi David, > > This is Deb Goodkin, Executive Director for the FreeBSD Foundation. The > Foundation isn't responsible for the CoC, that would be the FreeBSD > Project's core team. Please don't spread mis-information about the > Foundation censoring discussions.

Re: FreeBSD has a politics problem

2018-03-04 Thread Julian H. Stacey
> My money may not be a sponsorship money but still donated; on belief what > FreeBSD was doing right. Can I get a refund. Did the foundation really waste money on this ? https://www.freebsd.org/internal/code-of-conduct.html Bulleted elements are a bad mix of sensible & ridiculous. A

RE: FreeBSD has a politics problem

2018-03-04 Thread deb
Hi David, This is Deb Goodkin, Executive Director for the FreeBSD Foundation. The Foundation isn't responsible for the CoC, that would be the FreeBSD Project's core team. Please don't spread mis-information about the Foundation censoring discussions. Someone else on this thread can hopefully

Re: FreeBSD has a politics problem

2018-03-04 Thread Bryan Drewery
On 3/4/2018 2:24 PM, David Fox wrote: > Jeff, Please direct me where discussion is suppose to take place. Seeing as > the foundation wants to censor such discussion posts. Pretty calm here but > its irritating that there is no channel, even official to discuss. Note that Jeff's response was to

Re: FreeBSD has a politics problem

2018-03-04 Thread David Fox
Jeff, Please direct me where discussion is suppose to take place. Seeing as the foundation wants to censor such discussion posts. Pretty calm here but its irritating that there is no channel, even official to discuss. > On 04 March 2018 at 20:45 David Fox wrote: > > > As a

Re: FreeBSD has a politics problem

2018-03-04 Thread Jeff Roberson
Hi John, First of all this is really not an appropriate forum for this discussion. It is really unfortunate that these emails were leaked. However, I think if you take a careful look at them, you will find a couple examples of hostility but the great preponderance of them are quite