Re: Meetup in Zurich #4, July edition (July 19)

2018-07-17 Thread Johannes Jost Meixner
Hi advocacy@, Quick reminder that we'll meet tomorrow at 7pm in Mythos. Thanks, Johannes On 07/03/2018 07:06, Tobias C. Berner wrote: > Hello, > > We'd like to do the fourth BSD meetup in Zurich on Thursday July 19th, at > 19h. > > The previous three were in Helvti diners, which we now have r

Re: CoC does not help in benchmarks

2018-07-17 Thread Johannes Jost Meixner
Everything has been said, just not by everybody. That's why it pays to have good memory (or, a large INBOX): Deb Goodkin answered these questions already in March, on this list. https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-advocacy/2018-March/004721.html signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digi

Re: CoC does not help in benchmarks

2018-07-17 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Tue, 17 Jul 2018 11:38:21 -0400 Chad Jacob Milios wrote: > > On Jul 17, 2018, at 5:23 AM, Erich Dollansky > > wrote: > > > > you mean, the money spent on the CoC would not helped to develop > > better code by getting people willing to code for the same amount > > of money. > > Now I

Re: CoC does not help in benchmarks

2018-07-17 Thread Stephen Cook
My question was a direct response to another comment, which said the new CoC did not chase away any significant contributors. Do we want to attract people with no useful skills? I think that, regardless of whether you are "Vulnerable" or "Oppressor", your work should have to be good enough to be i

Re: CoC does not help in benchmarks

2018-07-17 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Tue, 17 Jul 2018 09:53:19 -0500 CL Moonriver wrote: > > Was the project going to lose any significant contributors if we > > didn't protect them from *hugs*? > The point is, I think it is important that the CoC make new > contributors feel welcome and that if they want to contribute, t

Re: CoC does not help in benchmarks

2018-07-17 Thread Chad Jacob Milios
> On Jul 17, 2018, at 5:23 AM, Erich Dollansky > wrote: > > you mean, the money spent on the CoC would not helped to develop better > code by getting people willing to code for the same amount of money. Now I see your point. Do we know how much was spent on CoC? I get zero hits for /(coc|condu

Re: CoC does not help in benchmarks

2018-07-17 Thread CL Moonriver
Was the project going to lose any significant contributors if we didn't protect them from *hugs*? Probably not, but I don't think that's the right question to ask. I think the right question to ask is does the current CoC attract new people who want to contribute, but are perhaps intimidated b

Re: CoC does not help in benchmarks

2018-07-17 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 19:44:55 -0400 Chad Jacob Milios wrote: > > On Jul 13, 2018, at 6:44 PM, Erich Dollansky > > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > here are the consequences of putting a CoC up high on the priority > > list: > > > > https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=windows-fre

Re: CoC does not help in benchmarks

2018-07-17 Thread Erich Dollansky
Hi, On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 12:10:47 -0400 Stephen Cook wrote: > Was the project going to lose any significant contributors if we > didn't protect them from *hugs*? I would not have expected. > > against spurious accusations. It would also be a violation to "dox" > someone, which the FreeBSD CoC d