Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated?

2005-07-02 Thread Scott Long
jsha wrote: Hello. I am writing this e-mail hoping that someone will share my thoughts on how the world's best operating system should represent its attributes and users to the rest of the world. Being an architect as well as graphic designer, I feel it is about time for a complete revamp of

Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated?

2005-07-02 Thread Nikolas Britton
John-Mark Gurney wrote: Nikolas Britton wrote this message on Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 22:46 -0600: 2. I cringe when I see Times New Roman, again redo the whole site with a modern web font: Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Etc. (ever here of Cascading Style Sheets?) you mean a sans-serif

Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated?

2005-07-02 Thread Chris
Nikolas Britton wrote: From a business perspective we look amateurish. I have held off thus far... I REALLY REALLY agree with this point, from the prospective of an outsider the website and Image conveys a real lack of professionalism, which is not true. No you don't - would you

Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated?

2005-07-02 Thread Stefan Bethke
It was fun while it lasted. Please stop. If you have to, move this to chat. -- Stefan Bethke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fon +49 170 346 0140 ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-arch To unsubscribe, send any

Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated?

2005-07-02 Thread Karol Kwiatkowski
Ramiro Aceves wrote: jsha wrote: 1. Not only is the logo misleading (associating evil) but it also looks like something 10-year-olds could produce in Paint Shop Pro ten years ago. OpenBSD has an artistic touch to theirs, however I was very disappointed when I heard that the new

Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated?

2005-07-02 Thread Ryan Sommers
Going to reply to the whole thread so far. jsha said: 1. Not only is the logo misleading (associating evil) but it also looks like something 10-year-olds could produce in Paint Shop Pro ten years Although I don't like the tone of the other replies, I agree with their sentiment, beasty is as

Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated?

2005-07-02 Thread Ceri Davies
On Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 09:40:00PM -0800, John-Mark Gurney wrote: Nikolas Britton wrote this message on Thu, Dec 23, 2004 at 22:46 -0600: [ Choosing a random(ish) post to reply to - I am on holiday right now and I will not pretend to have read the whole thread ] 2. I cringe when I see Times

RE: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated?

2005-07-02 Thread Frank Pawlak
This beyond a doubt is one of the best explanations that I have seen, heard, expressed, etc., of how the fsck'ed up world of business does IT stuff, and I have done IT consulting on various levels for over 18 years. Very well said Ted. It points out quite well why BSD in general has a bad

RE: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated?

2005-07-02 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 4:57 PM To: Simon Burke Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re:

Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated?

2005-07-02 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: Responding to Chris: CSS is neither outdated nor a Windows thing. You apparently need to get an extra clue or two before you rejoin this discussion. Not really - Some years back MS made a big issue about CSS. It was then that I

Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated?

2005-07-02 Thread Frank Pawlak
This is one of several issues that have been brought up on an almost periodic basis for the past several years. There have been several attempts by various folks, including a rather ambitious one by this author, and all have died because of severe lack of interest. It has been a few years

Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated?

2005-07-02 Thread Chris
Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: Giorgos Keramidas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 2004-12-23 23:02, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nikolas Britton wrote: 2. I cringe when I see Times New Roman, again redo the whole site with a modern web font: Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, Etc. (ever here of

Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated?

2005-07-02 Thread Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg
Simon Burke wrote: [snip] 2. If it wasn't for the interesting content and structure of the FreeBSD website, it would be among the less beautiful. Yes, it serves its purpose well by being simple and straight to the point. But a redesign could offer just the same -- simplicity and accuracy

Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated?

2005-07-02 Thread Nikolas Britton
Chris wrote: Nikolas Britton wrote: From a business perspective we look amateurish. I have held off thus far... I REALLY REALLY agree with this point, from the prospective of an outsider the website and Image conveys a real lack of professionalism, which is not true. No you

Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated?

2005-07-02 Thread Nikolas Britton
Colin J. Raven wrote: On Dec 25, Dag-Erling Smørgrav launched this into the bitstream: Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One does not need to know how to rebuild an engine to know how to drive the car. One should not criticize the design of an engine while vehemently claiming to have no

Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated?

2005-07-02 Thread Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg
Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Roger 'Rocky' Vetterberg Sent: Monday, December 27, 2004 4:57 PM To: Simon Burke Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org;

Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated?

2005-07-02 Thread Colin J. Raven
On Dec 25, Dag-Erling Smørgrav launched this into the bitstream: Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One does not need to know how to rebuild an engine to know how to drive the car. One should not criticize the design of an engine while vehemently claiming to have no interest in how enginges

Re: FreeBSD's Visual Identity: Outdated?

2005-07-02 Thread Daniel Blendea
1. bu**s**it, Beastie is **COOL** and would be a loss of identity if the logo would change; Dear Sir, please read the page where what greek daemons are explained.. 2. again, bu**s**it, the colors are not ugly at ALL, - and i'm not a fan of site's color theme coz i prefer blue-ish colors - again,