Concerning our new Code of Conduct...

2015-07-16 Thread Big Lebowski
Johannes Jost Meixner johannes at meixner.dk writes: I - as a male - feel not only not tolerated, but also discriminated against, There are approximately 400 active committers, and not even five of those are women. How the *hell* can you claim to be discriminated against when you are

Re: Concerning our new Code of Conduct...

2015-07-16 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Johannes Jost Meixner johan...@meixner.dk writes: I - as a male - feel not only not tolerated, but also discriminated against, There are approximately 400 active committers, and not even five of those are women. How the *hell* can you claim to be discriminated against when you are part of a

Re: Concerning our new Code of Conduct...

2015-07-16 Thread Marin Bernard
This is a highly subjective point of view. People are responsible for what they release publicly. Many people, men and women, feminist or not, disagree with this kind of communication. As a male, feminist, pro -LGBT individual, I do. And I really do understand Johannes' position. A Code of

Re: Concerning our new Code of Conduct...

2015-07-16 Thread Chris Benesch
This is a tough thing to be in the middle of, but lets look at the facts. I moderated a forum for years, and it had no clearly defined goal like this community, so it was nothing but people poking sticks at each other and/or local government. 1 . Randi basically called Johannes a whiny

Re: Concerning our new Code of Conduct...

2015-07-16 Thread Edelwin Khaelos
There are approximately 400 active committers, and not even five of those are women. How the *hell* can you claim to be discriminated against when you are part of a 99% majority? So you are saying that one person can't complain against other person actions/behaviour strictly because it is

Re: Concerning our new Code of Conduct...

2015-07-16 Thread Chad J. Milios
I think you created detached signatures by mistake. Against all my better judgement, I’m curious to see the .png’s and somehow I’m sure I’m not the only one. You’ll no doubt forgive me for failing to more closely follow this drama. On Jul 15, 2015, at 7:45 AM, Johannes Jost Meixner

Re: Concerning our new Code of Conduct...

2015-07-16 Thread Johannes Jost Meixner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 As requested, an imgur album of the tweets in question, because no one seems to be able to read the original attachments of Randi Harper's celebrating the release of the Code of Conduct. http://imgur.com/a/XBOen Yes, I know I could take this with

Re: Concerning our new Code of Conduct...

2015-07-16 Thread Johannes Jost Meixner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 07/16/2015 23:29, Randi Harper wrote: On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 1:45 AM, Dag-Erling Smørgrav d...@des.no mailto:d...@des.no wrote: Johannes Jost Meixner johan...@meixner.dk mailto:johan...@meixner.dk writes: I - as a male - feel not only

Re: Concerning our new Code of Conduct...

2015-07-16 Thread Randi Harper
On Thu, Jul 16, 2015 at 1:45 AM, Dag-Erling Smørgrav d...@des.no wrote: Johannes Jost Meixner johan...@meixner.dk writes: I - as a male - feel not only not tolerated, but also discriminated against, There are approximately 400 active committers, and not even five of those are women. How

Re: Concerning our new Code of Conduct...

2015-07-16 Thread Tony Theodore
On 17 Jul 2015, at 02:38, Johannes Jost Meixner johan...@meixner.dk wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 As requested, an imgur album of the tweets in question, because no one seems to be able to read the original attachments of Randi Harper's celebrating the release

Re: Concerning our new Code of Conduct...

2015-07-16 Thread Stephen Perry
Very reasonable actually. If I keep getting this kind of crap from this mailing list I'm going to withdraw from it and cease any personal advocacy for FreeBSD going forward through social media and professional contacts. On Jul 16, 2015, at 4:37 PM, Poppy Faria cen...@yandex.com wrote: If

Re: Concerning our new Code of Conduct...

2015-07-16 Thread Poppy Faria
If having a code of conduct means that all of this nonsense will stop, then I'm in favor. However, I disagree with the idea of there being a code of conduct based on any political ideologies instead of an agreed upon fabric of moral and ethical decency. But seriously guys, please stop. I'm