Re: BSDstats: May Statistics - 23 998 Hosts Reported In
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - --On Friday, June 06, 2008 08:56:01 +0200 Julian Stacey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FreeBSD. Any large installation will image drives or perform their own custom installation and may very well not want their competitors to know how many machines they are running. Some companies wont want their competitors, /or suppliers/ clients to even know What OS's they run, let alone how many. Some government departments too (whose `competitors' could include foreign governments, terrorists, thieves, civil liberties groups etc). Again, there is nothing on the site, or in the database, that links the host to any specific organization, or even IP ... month to month reporting is based on two generated 'keys' that are stored on the remote host, and passed to the reporting server, not the hostname/IP ... This is *very* anonymous, for exactly the reasons you state above ... - -- Marc G. FournierHub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkhL4AkACgkQ4QvfyHIvDvNTrQCePqoZ+v8VbAOsaBWoGsVFCDUy eCMAoN1ppPDHpX3lVzGS7UniJ44zMZsT =ovjT -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSDstats: May Statistics - 23 998 Hosts Reported In
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Under FreeBSD, it prompts you during the install process itself ... - --On Thursday, June 05, 2008 19:52:04 -0300 Gonzalo Nemmi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 05 June 2008 17:30:36 Marc G. Fournier wrote: --On Thursday, June 05, 2008 16:31:30 +0300 Odhiambo Washington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway, I am surprised at how fast PC-BSD is picking up. I know that during installation, it prompts the installer to enable the submission of stats. Could this explain why there are more PC-BSD that there are FreeBSD? For FreeBSD, the owner must know about the stats and configure them to be submitted. That is why we're working on both improving the site itself (fixing issues with the sub-release areas), as well as trying to a more regular monthly notice up ... I find a jump in stats each time I do so as more ppl find out about it ... Report I did a few months back shows only 85 Countries reporting in, so although its just one host here and there, adding 40 new countries is cool ... I'm one of those that just found out ! Will install bsdstats now =D Any tips on how to configure will be a welcome addition since there seems to be no manpage on bsdstats :( http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=bsdstatsapropos=0sektion=0manpath =FreeBSD+7.0-RELEASEformat=html Thanks! -- Blessings Gonzalo Nemmi ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- Marc G. FournierHub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkhL3vcACgkQ4QvfyHIvDvPrnQCbB2PjfqSZJozoAnNlKdvU2/Ac 0boAn0Lc3OWqVqG4SVMYfBrq5x/FgKu2 =plVQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSDstats: May Statistics - 23 998 Hosts Reported In
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Over the past year, there have been a few that had talked about submitting a patch for this, but time is always an issue ... I've never looked into sysinstall itself, so wouldn't even know where to start ... anyone? - --On Friday, June 06, 2008 02:12:54 +0300 Alaksiej C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it would be nice to have Enable bsdstats option in sysinstall. Usually, an admin has enough trouble to care about, and installation of bsdstats is out of checklist. And personal users are rarely aware of it. On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Odhiambo Washington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 8:31 AM, Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As of June 5th, 2008, the project is seeing 23 998 hosts reporting in, with a break down as follows: PC-BSD 14 715 hosts FreeBSD 6 331 hosts DesktopBSD2 662 hosts NetBSD 108 hosts MirBSD 68 hosts OpenBSD 59 hosts DragonFly27 hosts MidnightBSD 22 hosts GNU/kFreeBSD 6 hosts I run a couple of servers in KE and I always do check to see if the number grows. Since I run most of those that report the stats, it's something that I am always curious about, since I don't know who the other participants (6 more now) are:-) Anyway, I am surprised at how fast PC-BSD is picking up. I know that during installation, it prompts the installer to enable the submission of stats. Could this explain why there are more PC-BSD that there are FreeBSD? For FreeBSD, the owner must know about the stats and configure them to be submitted. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards! --from a /. post ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- Marc G. FournierHub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkhL3zEACgkQ4QvfyHIvDvPtqACg0EtWbVIqAXEO0upEACOPFgPl A6AAnir1UKdTUVmY638yUEO+8DJHT13M =75VK -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSDstats: May Statistics - 23 998 Hosts Reported In
FreeBSD. Any large installation will image drives or perform their own custom installation and may very well not want their competitors to know how many machines they are running. Some companies wont want their competitors, /or suppliers/ clients to even know What OS's they run, let alone how many. Some government departments too (whose `competitors' could include foreign governments, terrorists, thieves, civil liberties groups etc). I installed on 1 of 3 public servers, but not on firewalls or internals. Julian -- Julian Stacey: BSDUnixLinux C Prog Admin SysEng Consult Munich www.berklix.com Mail just Ascii plain text. HTML Base64 text are spam. ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSDstats: May Statistics - 23 998 Hosts Reported In
2008/6/6, Murray Stokely [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi Marc, can you please post these individually to different lists next time rather than one massive cross-post? On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 6:31 AM, Odhiambo Washington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway, I am surprised at how fast PC-BSD is picking up. I know that during installation, it prompts the installer to enable the submission of stats. Could this explain why there are more PC-BSD that there are FreeBSD? Yes I should think that is pretty obvious. =) I would expect that Yahoo! alone has ~2 orders of magnitude more FreeBSD servers than what is represented there. These numbers have basically no correlation with the number of installed instances of these operating systems. Anyone interested in this effort should submit patches to optionally install/enable this functionality in the installer of the various operating systems - Murray Why is this info crossposted on so much lists ? That's really annoying, beside the fact that the data is useless. Cheers, Zafer. ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSDstats: May Statistics - 23 998 Hosts Reported In
On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 8:31 AM, Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As of June 5th, 2008, the project is seeing 23 998 hosts reporting in, with a break down as follows: PC-BSD 14 715 hosts FreeBSD 6 331 hosts DesktopBSD2 662 hosts NetBSD 108 hosts MirBSD 68 hosts OpenBSD 59 hosts DragonFly27 hosts MidnightBSD 22 hosts GNU/kFreeBSD 6 hosts I run a couple of servers in KE and I always do check to see if the number grows. Since I run most of those that report the stats, it's something that I am always curious about, since I don't know who the other participants (6 more now) are:-) Anyway, I am surprised at how fast PC-BSD is picking up. I know that during installation, it prompts the installer to enable the submission of stats. Could this explain why there are more PC-BSD that there are FreeBSD? For FreeBSD, the owner must know about the stats and configure them to be submitted. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards! --from a /. post ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSDstats: May Statistics - 23 998 Hosts Reported In
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - --On Thursday, June 05, 2008 16:31:30 +0300 Odhiambo Washington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway, I am surprised at how fast PC-BSD is picking up. I know that during installation, it prompts the installer to enable the submission of stats. Could this explain why there are more PC-BSD that there are FreeBSD? For FreeBSD, the owner must know about the stats and configure them to be submitted. That is why we're working on both improving the site itself (fixing issues with the sub-release areas), as well as trying to a more regular monthly notice up ... I find a jump in stats each time I do so as more ppl find out about it ... Report I did a few months back shows only 85 Countries reporting in, so although its just one host here and there, adding 40 new countries is cool ... - -- Marc G. FournierHub.Org Hosting Solutions S.A. (http://www.hub.org) Email . [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSN . [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo . yscrappy Skype: hub.orgICQ . 7615664 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (FreeBSD) iEYEARECAAYFAkhITOwACgkQ4QvfyHIvDvO/yACg7Ph15XYty0J1tP+jXNs4Fzp3 CFwAoI/AgvbWotWJAUZJZ23aAhiyK993 =9QMv -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSDstats: May Statistics - 23 998 Hosts Reported In
On Thursday 05 June 2008 17:30:36 Marc G. Fournier wrote: --On Thursday, June 05, 2008 16:31:30 +0300 Odhiambo Washington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway, I am surprised at how fast PC-BSD is picking up. I know that during installation, it prompts the installer to enable the submission of stats. Could this explain why there are more PC-BSD that there are FreeBSD? For FreeBSD, the owner must know about the stats and configure them to be submitted. That is why we're working on both improving the site itself (fixing issues with the sub-release areas), as well as trying to a more regular monthly notice up ... I find a jump in stats each time I do so as more ppl find out about it ... Report I did a few months back shows only 85 Countries reporting in, so although its just one host here and there, adding 40 new countries is cool ... I'm one of those that just found out ! Will install bsdstats now =D Any tips on how to configure will be a welcome addition since there seems to be no manpage on bsdstats :( http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=bsdstatsapropos=0sektion=0manpath=FreeBSD+7.0-RELEASEformat=html Thanks! -- Blessings Gonzalo Nemmi ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSDstats: May Statistics - 23 998 Hosts Reported In
I think it would be nice to have Enable bsdstats option in sysinstall. Usually, an admin has enough trouble to care about, and installation of bsdstats is out of checklist. And personal users are rarely aware of it. On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Odhiambo Washington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 8:31 AM, Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As of June 5th, 2008, the project is seeing 23 998 hosts reporting in, with a break down as follows: PC-BSD 14 715 hosts FreeBSD 6 331 hosts DesktopBSD2 662 hosts NetBSD 108 hosts MirBSD 68 hosts OpenBSD 59 hosts DragonFly27 hosts MidnightBSD 22 hosts GNU/kFreeBSD 6 hosts I run a couple of servers in KE and I always do check to see if the number grows. Since I run most of those that report the stats, it's something that I am always curious about, since I don't know who the other participants (6 more now) are:-) Anyway, I am surprised at how fast PC-BSD is picking up. I know that during installation, it prompts the installer to enable the submission of stats. Could this explain why there are more PC-BSD that there are FreeBSD? For FreeBSD, the owner must know about the stats and configure them to be submitted. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards! --from a /. post ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSDstats: May Statistics - 23 998 Hosts Reported In
Hi Marc, can you please post these individually to different lists next time rather than one massive cross-post? On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 6:31 AM, Odhiambo Washington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway, I am surprised at how fast PC-BSD is picking up. I know that during installation, it prompts the installer to enable the submission of stats. Could this explain why there are more PC-BSD that there are FreeBSD? Yes I should think that is pretty obvious. =) I would expect that Yahoo! alone has ~2 orders of magnitude more FreeBSD servers than what is represented there. These numbers have basically no correlation with the number of installed instances of these operating systems. Anyone interested in this effort should submit patches to optionally install/enable this functionality in the installer of the various operating systems - Murray ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSDstats: May Statistics - 23 998 Hosts Reported In
IMHO, you are partly right. In regard of FreeBSD at all, right now, those numbers are misleading (it's not possible to use it for any research) and unimpressive (it's not possible to use it for PR). Yet, for the guys from PC-BSD team it is already useful. Their users quantity reflected by bsdstats should be almost correct. And it has some potential. If bsdstats will become more usual and numbers will grow, than *probably* it would be enough for some advertising, at least in the following form: Accordingly to bsdstats number of FreeBSD users has grown by 12%, blah-blah... And (let's dream :) ) some social thing could be incorporated in it, like voluntary registration in a global db, so you would be able to be connected by/connect to ppl, who runs FreeBSD in your location. On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 2:19 AM, Murray Stokely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yea it's probably worth doing, but that would still only reach a small fraction of the installed instances of FreeBSD, so what will that number really give you? The number of people using sysinstall that choose to participate in this program? Somewhat interesting I guess, but that number is very different from the number of computers running FreeBSD. Any large installation will image drives or perform their own custom installation and may very well not want their competitors to know how many machines they are running. The bsdstats website does not make this very clear and is I think misleading and possibly harmful to the effort it is trying to champion. - Murray On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 4:12 PM, Alaksiej C [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it would be nice to have Enable bsdstats option in sysinstall. Usually, an admin has enough trouble to care about, and installation of bsdstats is out of checklist. And personal users are rarely aware of it. On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Odhiambo Washington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 8:31 AM, Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 As of June 5th, 2008, the project is seeing 23 998 hosts reporting in, with a break down as follows: PC-BSD 14 715 hosts FreeBSD 6 331 hosts DesktopBSD2 662 hosts NetBSD 108 hosts MirBSD 68 hosts OpenBSD 59 hosts DragonFly27 hosts MidnightBSD 22 hosts GNU/kFreeBSD 6 hosts I run a couple of servers in KE and I always do check to see if the number grows. Since I run most of those that report the stats, it's something that I am always curious about, since I don't know who the other participants (6 more now) are:-) Anyway, I am surprised at how fast PC-BSD is picking up. I know that during installation, it prompts the installer to enable the submission of stats. Could this explain why there are more PC-BSD that there are FreeBSD? For FreeBSD, the owner must know about the stats and configure them to be submitted. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Oh My God! They killed init! You Bastards! --from a /. post ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-advocacy To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
