Re: leveraging FOSS, especially FreeBSD

2009-09-30 Thread Chad Perrin
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 08:11:39PM +0200, Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > > I found the phrase "everything developed before 1970" particularly > amusing, as it translates to approximately zero, plus or minus zero. Wait . . . that wasn't a typo? -- Chad Perrin [ original content licensed OWL: http:

Re: leveraging FOSS, especially FreeBSD

2009-09-28 Thread Madika Vuite
On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Don Wilde wrote: > What is incorrect, Julian? I interviewed both Kirk McK and Berkeley's > chief legal beagle several years ago. If I'm incorrect, I'd prefer to > get it right. > > I even bought Kirk's video after a FBSD convention a long time back. > He was drin

Re: leveraging FOSS, especially FreeBSD

2009-09-28 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Don Wilde writes: > Dag-Erling, I remember you quite well as a core developer, so I don't > doubt that your knowledge of history is better than mine. Never been on core. My knowledge of this matter comes from researching it (thoroughly) for the history section of a presentation on open source li

Re: leveraging FOSS, especially FreeBSD

2009-09-28 Thread Don Wilde
Dag-Erling, I remember you quite well as a core developer, so I don't doubt that your knowledge of history is better than mine. Thank you both for the corrections. AFA pitchers of beer, it was meant as a friendly dig on an insider's list and not meant as disrespect for Kirk's achievements, which h

Re: leveraging FOSS, especially FreeBSD

2009-09-28 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Don Wilde writes: > What is incorrect, Julian? Pretty much everything about the lawsuit. http://oreilly.com/catalog/opensources/book/kirkmck.html http://www.groklaw.net/pdf/USLsettlement.pdf I found the phrase "everything developed before 1970" particularly amusing, as it translates to approxim

Re: leveraging FOSS, especially FreeBSD

2009-09-28 Thread Don Wilde
Thank you, Julian - Me bits be scrambled, methinks. Apologies all, correcting it I am now., For the record, the agreement was made in 1994. Here is the complete text. http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20041126130302760 -- :D On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 12:51 PM, Julian H. Stacey wrote: > D

Re: leveraging FOSS, especially FreeBSD

2009-09-28 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Don Wilde wrote: > What is incorrect, Julian? .. etc. In 1977 I started learning Unix V6 as a Unix newbie. There were no UCB bits I heard of till csh & job control & vi floated in to my Uni. a few years on, maybe 1980 +/- a year or 2, I'd guess about 82. Can't remember when I heard of first com

Re: leveraging FOSS, especially FreeBSD

2009-09-28 Thread Don Wilde
What is incorrect, Julian? I interviewed both Kirk McK and Berkeley's chief legal beagle several years ago. If I'm incorrect, I'd prefer to get it right. I even bought Kirk's video after a FBSD convention a long time back. He was drinking beer by the pitcher, so I'm sure he was more forthcoming th

Re: leveraging FOSS, especially FreeBSD

2009-09-28 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Hi, > From: Don Wilde Don Wilde wrote: > http://www.engineeringjobfuture.com/articles/leverage/open-source-software Article contains "The lawsuit was bitterly contested, but finally resolved. Everything developed before 1970 was declared by a judge to be open for