Re: Unable to installworld after successful buildworld and buildkernel

2013-10-09 Thread Thomas Mueller
Quoting without so as not to interfere with the patch: How does this look: Index: UPDATING === --- UPDATING(revision 256024) +++ UPDATING(working copy) @@ -1899,7 +1899,7 @@ make buildkernel

Re: [CFT] Patch to bsdinstall to support root-on-ZFS and GELI

2013-10-09 Thread Nathan Whitehorn
On 10/09/13 01:13, Allan Jude wrote: On 2013-10-08 16:17, Nathan Whitehorn wrote: On 10/07/13 21:59, Allan Jude wrote: Devin Teske and I have been working on a big patch to bsdinstall to implement installing on a ZFS pool. It supports both GPT and MBR, the 4k sector gnop trick, and optional

Re: [CFT] Patch to bsdinstall to support root-on-ZFS and GELI

2013-10-09 Thread Matthias Gamsjager
Hi, tried 10-8 iso in Virtualbox but after reboot I was looking at a bootloader with a nice '-' but nothing more. post setup 'gpart list' showed no entries at all. On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 5:49 AM, Allan Jude free...@allanjude.com wrote: On 2013-10-07 15:59, Allan Jude wrote: Devin Teske

Re: rcs

2013-10-09 Thread Hans Ottevanger
On 10/08/13 04:31, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: Okay folks, can we make a call about keeping the RCS tools in the base? The proponents wanting to remove RCS need to speak up and make their technical case. Technically it is quite simple: I need RCS to start versioning config files, even before

Re: rcs

2013-10-09 Thread Daniel Nebdal
On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 11:34 PM, Lev Serebryakov l...@freebsd.org wrote: Hello, Daniel. You wrote 8 октября 2013 г., 19:40:23: DN If they get the package repositories back up - which I assume will DN happen before any official releases from 10 - it should just be pkg DN install rcs. As

Re: test

2013-10-09 Thread Vincent Hoffman
Please use freebsd-test for testing http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-test Vince On 08/10/2013 23:00, Joe Nosay wrote: What were you testing? On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 5:25 PM, Joe Nosay superbisq...@gmail.com wrote: /div/td/tr/tbody/table/td/tr/tbody/table/divdiv

Re: rcs

2013-10-09 Thread George Mitchell
On 10/09/13 03:20, Hans Ottevanger wrote: On 10/08/13 04:31, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: Okay folks, can we make a call about keeping the RCS tools in the base? The proponents wanting to remove RCS need to speak up and make their technical case. Technically it is quite simple: I need RCS to

Re: rcs

2013-10-09 Thread Kimmo Paasiala
On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 2:03 PM, George Mitchell george+free...@m5p.com wrote: On 10/09/13 03:20, Hans Ottevanger wrote: On 10/08/13 04:31, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: Okay folks, can we make a call about keeping the RCS tools in the base? The proponents wanting to remove RCS need to speak up

Re: Unable to installworld after successful buildworld and buildkernel

2013-10-09 Thread Brooks Davis
On Tue, Oct 08, 2013 at 10:52:13PM -0700, John-Mark Gurney wrote: Thomas Mueller wrote this message on Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 03:00 +: But where is DB_FROM_SRC documented? I never saw it anywhere. UPDATING file needs to be updated for installing FreeBSD on a partition where

Assertion in zdb?

2013-10-09 Thread Vitalij Satanivskij
Hello. System - 10.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #2 r255173 While trying to get some statistics from zdb zdb -dd disk1 stat.log get some assertion: Assertion failed: object_count == usedobjs (0x85727 == 0x3aa93d), file

Re: rcs

2013-10-09 Thread Julian Elischer
On 10/8/13 11:20 PM, Alfred Perlstein wrote: On 10/8/13 8:04 AM, sth...@nethelp.no wrote: I think the fact is that most direct users of RCS use it in a very simple way, and it works just fine for that. with no real need for any updates or any change. With all due respect Julian, The more we

Re: rcs

2013-10-09 Thread Julian Elischer
On 10/9/13 4:38 AM, Graham Todd wrote: On Tue, 8 Oct 2013, Adrian Chadd wrote: I think that's great. But, as we are increasingly finding, theres no stable ports snapshot, so unless we as a project change how packages are managed, there may not really be a stable, predictable version of

Re: rcs

2013-10-09 Thread Julian Elischer
On 10/9/13 2:35 AM, Freddie Cash wrote: On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Alfred Perlstein bri...@mu.org wrote: You're right on the money, to be honest this is one of the reasons why I've switched to using OSX as my desktop OS. zsh, vim, screen by default. and upgrades work. At the end of the

Re: rcs

2013-10-09 Thread Julian Elischer
On 10/9/13 4:59 PM, Daniel Nebdal wrote: On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 11:34 PM, Lev Serebryakov l...@freebsd.org wrote: Hello, Daniel. You wrote 8 октября 2013 г., 19:40:23: DN If they get the package repositories back up - which I assume will DN happen before any official releases from 10 - it

Re: rcs

2013-10-09 Thread Julian Elischer
On 10/9/13 3:20 PM, Hans Ottevanger wrote: On 10/08/13 04:31, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: Okay folks, can we make a call about keeping the RCS tools in the base? The proponents wanting to remove RCS need to speak up and make their technical case. Technically it is quite simple: I need RCS to

Re: [Heads Up] RCS removed from base

2013-10-09 Thread Julian Elischer
On 10/9/13 7:22 AM, Diane Bruce wrote: On Tue, Oct 08, 2013 at 04:56:46PM -0400, Kurt Lidl wrote: On 10/8/13 4:33 PM, Cy Schubert wrote: In message 52542687.7000...@pix.net, Kurt Lidl writes: On 10/8/13, Julian Elischer wrote: On 10/7/13 11:06 PM, Steve Kargl wrote: On Sun, Oct 06, 2013 at

Re: rcs

2013-10-09 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 10/9/13 1:59 AM, Daniel Nebdal wrote: On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 11:34 PM, Lev Serebryakov l...@freebsd.org wrote: Hello, Daniel. You wrote 8 октября 2013 г., 19:40:23: DN If they get the package repositories back up - which I assume will DN happen before any official releases from 10 - it

Re: rcs

2013-10-09 Thread Glen Barber
On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 07:17:11AM -0700, Alfred Perlstein wrote: Only a few years ago you could take a dvd or memstick of FreeBSD and have 1000s of packages to choose from during your install. That is broken now? memstick.img always had a minimal set of packages (mostly documentation

Re: rcs

2013-10-09 Thread Benjamin Kaduk
Going off on a slight tangent... On Tue, 8 Oct 2013, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: For this to work in a disconnected environment, you need a ports tree with a fully populated distfiles/ directory. The hack we came up with was to put a FreeBSD host on the external network, on which we ran a

Re: rcs

2013-10-09 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On 10/9/13 7:20 AM, Glen Barber wrote: On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 07:17:11AM -0700, Alfred Perlstein wrote: Only a few years ago you could take a dvd or memstick of FreeBSD and have 1000s of packages to choose from during your install. That is broken now? memstick.img always had a minimal set

Re: [Heads Up] RCS removed from base

2013-10-09 Thread Kurt Lidl
On Tue, Oct 08, 2013 at 04:56:46PM -0400, Kurt Lidl wrote: On 10/8/13 4:33 PM, Cy Schubert wrote: In message 52542687.7000100 at pix.net, Kurt Lidl writes: On 10/8/13, Julian Elischer wrote: On 10/7/13 11:06 PM, Steve Kargl wrote: On Sun, Oct 06, 2013 at 10:43:21PM -0400, Eitan Adler wrote:

Re: [CFT] Patch to bsdinstall to support root-on-ZFS and GELI

2013-10-09 Thread Warren Block
On Tue, 8 Oct 2013, Freddie Cash wrote: On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Nathan Whitehorn nwhiteh...@freebsd.orgwrote: 4. What is this gnop stuff for? Can't comment on the rest, but gnop is required to create 4K-aligned vdevs where the minimum block size is 4K (aka ashift=12). Right, but

Re: [CFT] Patch to bsdinstall to support root-on-ZFS and GELI

2013-10-09 Thread Warren Block
On Tue, 8 Oct 2013, Teske, Devin wrote: But shell is nasty; slow; and not as powerful as C (it depends in what context; the first is rhetoric, the second is only true for poor implement- ations, and the third may be true in some contexts, but I consider the answer to how maintainable is it to

Re: rcs

2013-10-09 Thread Jos Backus
On Oct 9, 2013 5:39 AM, Kimmo Paasiala kpaas...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 2:03 PM, George Mitchell george+free...@m5p.com wrote: On 10/09/13 03:20, Hans Ottevanger wrote: On 10/08/13 04:31, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: Okay folks, can we make a call about keeping the RCS tools

Re: [CFT] Patch to bsdinstall to support root-on-ZFS and GELI

2013-10-09 Thread Allan Jude
On 2013-10-09 03:22, Matthias Gamsjager wrote: Hi, tried 10-8 iso in Virtualbox but after reboot I was looking at a bootloader with a nice '-' but nothing more. post setup 'gpart list' showed no entries at all. On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 5:49 AM, Allan Jude free...@allanjude.com

Re: rcs

2013-10-09 Thread Freddie Cash
On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 6:41 AM, Julian Elischer jul...@freebsd.org wrote: On 10/9/13 2:35 AM, Freddie Cash wrote: On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Alfred Perlstein bri...@mu.org wrote: You're right on the money, to be honest this is one of the reasons why I've switched to using OSX as my

Re: [CFT] Patch to bsdinstall to support root-on-ZFS and GELI

2013-10-09 Thread Teske, Devin
On Oct 9, 2013, at 8:29 AM, Warren Block wrote: On Tue, 8 Oct 2013, Teske, Devin wrote: But shell is nasty; slow; and not as powerful as C (it depends in what context; the first is rhetoric, the second is only true for poor implement- ations, and the third may be true in some contexts, but

Re: rcs

2013-10-09 Thread Freddie Cash
On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 9:12 AM, Freddie Cash fjwc...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 6:41 AM, Julian Elischer jul...@freebsd.orgwrote: On 10/9/13 2:35 AM, Freddie Cash wrote: On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Alfred Perlstein bri...@mu.org wrote: You're right on the money, to be

Re: [CFT] Patch to bsdinstall to support root-on-ZFS and GELI

2013-10-09 Thread Teske, Devin
On Oct 9, 2013, at 9:05 AM, Allan Jude wrote: On 2013-10-09 03:22, Matthias Gamsjager wrote: Hi, tried 10-8 iso in Virtualbox but after reboot I was looking at a bootloader with a nice '-' but nothing more. post setup 'gpart list' showed no entries at all. On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at

Re: rcs

2013-10-09 Thread Allan Jude
On 2013-10-09 12:23, Freddie Cash wrote: On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 9:12 AM, Freddie Cash fjwc...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 6:41 AM, Julian Elischer jul...@freebsd.orgwrote: On 10/9/13 2:35 AM, Freddie Cash wrote: On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 9:09 AM, Alfred Perlstein bri...@mu.org

Re: rcs

2013-10-09 Thread Hans Ottevanger
On 10/09/13 15:47, Julian Elischer wrote: On 10/9/13 3:20 PM, Hans Ottevanger wrote: On 10/08/13 04:31, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: Okay folks, can we make a call about keeping the RCS tools in the base? The proponents wanting to remove RCS need to speak up and make their technical case.

Re: rcs

2013-10-09 Thread Kris Moore
On 10/09/2013 12:33, Allan Jude wrote: On 2013-10-09 12:23, Freddie Cash wrote: On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 9:12 AM, Freddie Cash fjwc...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 6:41 AM, Julian Elischer jul...@freebsd.orgwrote: On 10/9/13 2:35 AM, Freddie Cash wrote: On Tue, Oct 8, 2013 at 9:09

claws-mail deadlocking in iconv

2013-10-09 Thread Fabian Keil
After the iconv import claws-mail started to deadlock in iconv every now and then on my system, which prevented claws-mail from rendering windows or reacting to input. So far I haven't been able to reproduce this intentionally and various rebuilds of ports, kernel and userland (mainly for other

Re: [CFT] Patch to bsdinstall to support root-on-ZFS and GELI

2013-10-09 Thread Teske, Devin
On Oct 8, 2013, at 11:19 PM, Nathan Whitehorn wrote: On 10/09/13 01:13, Allan Jude wrote: On 2013-10-08 16:17, Nathan Whitehorn wrote: On 10/07/13 21:59, Allan Jude wrote: Devin Teske and I have been working on a big patch to bsdinstall to implement installing on a ZFS pool. It supports

Re: [Heads Up] RCS removed from base

2013-10-09 Thread Diane Bruce
... I notice in diff'ing your work vs my work, that I started with newer revisions of some of the files than the ones you have: I was well aware of that. There is no point doing much more until there is a decision from core. - Diane -- - d...@freebsd.org d...@db.net http://www.db.net/~db

Re: Unable to installworld after successful buildworld and buildkernel

2013-10-09 Thread John-Mark Gurney
Brooks Davis wrote this message on Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 08:06 -0500: On Tue, Oct 08, 2013 at 10:52:13PM -0700, John-Mark Gurney wrote: Thomas Mueller wrote this message on Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 03:00 +: But where is DB_FROM_SRC documented? I never saw it anywhere. UPDATING file

BE Loader Menu (was Re: rcs)

2013-10-09 Thread Teske, Devin
On Oct 9, 2013, at 9:42 AM, Kris Moore wrote: On 10/09/2013 12:33, Allan Jude wrote: On 2013-10-09 12:23, Freddie Cash wrote: On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 9:12 AM, Freddie Cash fjwc...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 6:41 AM, Julian Elischer jul...@freebsd.orgwrote: On 10/9/13 2:35

Re: [CFT] Patch to bsdinstall to support root-on-ZFS and GELI

2013-10-09 Thread Teske, Devin
On Oct 8, 2013, at 8:49 PM, Allan Jude wrote: On 2013-10-07 15:59, Allan Jude wrote: Devin Teske and I have been working on a big patch to bsdinstall to implement installing on a ZFS pool. It supports both GPT and MBR, the 4k sector gnop trick, and optional GELI encryption. We would like to

Re: [CFT] Patch to bsdinstall to support root-on-ZFS and GELI

2013-10-09 Thread Allan Jude
On 2013-10-09 13:21, Teske, Devin wrote: On Oct 8, 2013, at 8:49 PM, Allan Jude wrote: On 2013-10-07 15:59, Allan Jude wrote: Devin Teske and I have been working on a big patch to bsdinstall to implement installing on a ZFS pool. It supports both GPT and MBR, the 4k sector gnop trick, and

Re: [CFT] Patch to bsdinstall to support root-on-ZFS and GELI

2013-10-09 Thread Teske, Devin
On Oct 9, 2013, at 10:47 AM, Allan Jude wrote: On 2013-10-09 13:21, Teske, Devin wrote: On Oct 8, 2013, at 8:49 PM, Allan Jude wrote: On 2013-10-07 15:59, Allan Jude wrote: Devin Teske and I have been working on a big patch to bsdinstall to implement installing on a ZFS pool. It supports

Re: rcs

2013-10-09 Thread Bruce Cran
On 10/9/2013 3:17 PM, Alfred Perlstein wrote: Only a few years ago you could take a dvd or memstick of FreeBSD and have 1000s of packages to choose from during your install. That is broken now? At some point it was decided that the installer should be as simple as possible and package

Re: Unable to installworld after successful buildworld and buildkernel

2013-10-09 Thread Brooks Davis
On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 10:05:04AM -0700, John-Mark Gurney wrote: Brooks Davis wrote this message on Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 08:06 -0500: On Tue, Oct 08, 2013 at 10:52:13PM -0700, John-Mark Gurney wrote: Thomas Mueller wrote this message on Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 03:00 +: But where is

Re: urtwn driver for Edimax EW-7811U WLAN nano USB Adapter

2013-10-09 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Hi all, Adrian Chadd wrote: Note the noise floor differences.. wonder why that is. Yes, more measurements etc at: http://www.berklix.com/~jhs/src/bsd/fixes/FreeBSD/src/gen/share/man/man4/urtwn.4.REL=current.diff Rui ported the uwrtn stuff, right? It seems others, so I added them: To:

Re: urtwn driver for Edimax EW-7811U WLAN nano USB Adapter

2013-10-09 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Rui ported the uwrtn stuff, right? It seems others, so I added them: Whoops, I missed Rui = paulo in commit logs. Added to cc. Sorry. Cheers, Julian -- Julian Stacey, BSD Unix Linux C Sys Eng Consultant, Munich http://berklix.com Reply below not above, like a play script. Indent old text

Re: Changes to UART ns8250

2013-10-09 Thread Zbigniew Bodek
Hello Ganbold. Thank you for testing the patch and pointing those issue out. My detection log from Armada XP: uart0: 16550 or compatible mem 0xd0012000-0xd001201f irq 41 on simplebus0 uart0: console (115200,n,8,1) uart1: 16550 or compatible mem 0xd0012100-0xd001211f irq 42 on simplebus0 uart2:

Re: rcs

2013-10-09 Thread Adrian Chadd
On 9 October 2013 11:28, Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk wrote: On 10/9/2013 3:17 PM, Alfred Perlstein wrote: Only a few years ago you could take a dvd or memstick of FreeBSD and have 1000s of packages to choose from during your install. That is broken now? At some point it was decided that

Re: claws-mail deadlocking in iconv

2013-10-09 Thread RW
On Wed, 9 Oct 2013 18:34:46 +0200 Fabian Keil wrote: After the iconv import claws-mail started to deadlock in iconv every now and then on my system, which prevented claws-mail from rendering windows or reacting to input. ... and I'm also a bit surprised by the lack of reports from other

Re: rcs

2013-10-09 Thread Teske, Devin
On Oct 9, 2013, at 2:48 PM, Adrian Chadd wrote: On 9 October 2013 11:28, Bruce Cran br...@cran.org.uk wrote: On 10/9/2013 3:17 PM, Alfred Perlstein wrote: Only a few years ago you could take a dvd or memstick of FreeBSD and have 1000s of packages to choose from during your install. That

Re: urtwn driver for Edimax EW-7811U WLAN nano USB Adapter

2013-10-09 Thread Julian H. Stacey
Ref. http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-current/2013-October/045333.html I jhs@ wrote Rui ported the uwrtn stuff, right? It seems others, so I added them: Whoops, I missed Rui = paulo in commit logs. Added to cc. Sorry. This has header with corrected addresses for Rui Paulo

Re: Assertion in zdb?

2013-10-09 Thread Richard Todd
Vitalij Satanivskij sa...@ukr.net writes: Hello. System - 10.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 10.0-CURRENT #2 r255173 While trying to get some statistics from zdb zdb -dd disk1 stat.log get some assertion: Assertion failed: object_count == usedobjs (0x85727 == 0x3aa93d), file

/usr/src/lib/msun errors

2013-10-09 Thread Joe Nosay
Src is from 10/7/13 on i386. Base is from April. cc -O2 -pipe -mssse3 -Wall -I/usr/src/lib/msun/x86 -I/usr/src/lib/msun/ld80 -I/usr/src/lib/msun/src -I/usr/src/lib/msun/../libc/include -I/usr/src/lib/msun/../libc/i386 -std=gnu99 -Qunused-arguments -fstack-protector -Wsystem-headers -Werror

Re: /usr/src/lib/msun errors

2013-10-09 Thread Steve Kargl
On Wed, Oct 09, 2013 at 09:00:11PM -0400, Joe Nosay wrote: Src is from 10/7/13 on i386. Base is from April. cc -O2 -pipe -mssse3 -Wall -I/usr/src/lib/msun/x86 -I/usr/src/lib/msun/ld80 -I/usr/src/lib/msun/src -I/usr/src/lib/msun/../libc/include -I/usr/src/lib/msun/../libc/i386 -std=gnu99

Re: rcs

2013-10-09 Thread Thomas Mueller
from Devin Teske: That wasn't the rationale. sysinstall was broken and more people wanted a replacement than wanted to see it fixed. bsdinstall is simply coming of age still (sysinstall had a 15 year run). Some things I disliked about sysinstall were choosing a type of install from a

Re: BE Loader Menu (was Re: rcs)

2013-10-09 Thread Thomas Mueller
from Devin Teske: I'm late to the party again ;D (didn't realize the rcs thread had turned BE) Both problems can be solved. The loading of the kernel *after* choosing your boot device is trivial. We've been doing it at $work for *years* (almost a decade?) I can put that in, whenever.

Re: [CFT] Patch to bsdinstall to support root-on-ZFS and GELI

2013-10-09 Thread Allan Jude
On 2013-10-09 14:14, Teske, Devin wrote: On Oct 9, 2013, at 10:47 AM, Allan Jude wrote: On 2013-10-09 13:21, Teske, Devin wrote: On Oct 8, 2013, at 8:49 PM, Allan Jude wrote: On 2013-10-07 15:59, Allan Jude wrote: Devin Teske and I have been working on a big patch to bsdinstall to

Re: [CFT] Patch to bsdinstall to support root-on-ZFS and GELI

2013-10-09 Thread Teske, Devin
On Oct 9, 2013, at 8:11 PM, Allan Jude wrote: On 2013-10-09 14:14, Teske, Devin wrote: On Oct 9, 2013, at 10:47 AM, Allan Jude wrote: On 2013-10-09 13:21, Teske, Devin wrote: On Oct 8, 2013, at 8:49 PM, Allan Jude wrote: On 2013-10-07 15:59, Allan Jude wrote: Devin Teske and I have

Re: BE Loader Menu (was Re: rcs)

2013-10-09 Thread Thomas Mueller
from Devin Teske: I'm late to the party again ;D (didn't realize the rcs thread had turned BE) Both problems can be solved. The loading of the kernel *after* choosing your boot device is trivial. We've been doing it at $work for *years* (almost a decade?) I can put that in, whenever.

Re: BE Loader Menu (was Re: rcs)

2013-10-09 Thread Thomas Mueller
Sorry for previous typo in From: line, missing right angle bracket at end. Then, in a finger error, I resent that message just before finding the error and making the needed correction. from Devin Teske: I'm late to the party again ;D (didn't realize the rcs thread had turned BE) Both