Re: bikeshed

2003-09-14 Thread Greg Lehey
On Friday, 12 September 2003 at 5:10:39 +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] ibsd.org writes: Did you ever consider that your doing exactly what phk's logo protests? ;) Maybe that is why phk hasn't responded any further, because he's laughing at

Re: I've just had a massive file system crash

2003-01-26 Thread Greg Lehey
On Sunday, 26 January 2003 at 14:24:02 +1030, Daniel O'Connor wrote: On Sun, 2003-01-26 at 08:08, David Schultz wrote: Good. I was referring to IDE in this case, because I assume that's what Greg's laptop uses. The ATA driver flushes the cache when the device is closed, but I don't think

I've just had a massive file system crash

2003-01-24 Thread Greg Lehey
I'm rather astounded. I'm currently at a Linux conference, and have of course been boasting about the stability of ufs, and today I had a crash which tore apart my /home file system. This is on a laptop, one which has been running -CURRENT for years with no trouble. At the moment it's running

Re: I've just had a massive file system crash

2003-01-24 Thread Greg Lehey
On Friday, 24 January 2003 at 20:34:24 +1000, Andy Farkas wrote: I'm rather astounded. I'm currently at a Linux conference, and have of course been boasting about the stability of ufs, and today I had a crash which tore apart my /home file system. This is on a laptop, one which has been

Re: What is user uucp good for?

2002-11-06 Thread Greg Lehey
On Tuesday, 5 November 2002 at 21:57:50 +0100, Marcin Cieslak wrote: Kris Kennaway ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) napisa?(a): On Sat, Nov 02, 2002 at 04:11:39PM +1030, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: A number of base system utilities and ports still use it for access to the serial port devices (which are

Re: Serial break into debugger broken from 'cu' on -CURRENT?

2002-03-10 Thread Greg Lehey
On Sunday, 10 March 2002 at 10:07:07 -0500, Robert Watson wrote: For the past couple of months, I've been working with a set of identical test boxes from SGI which, for some reason, stopped responding to serial break on the serial console. I switched to the 'alternative break' option in

Re: Patch for critical_enter()/critical_exit() interrupt assem

2002-03-07 Thread Greg Lehey
On Tuesday, 5 March 2002 at 9:43:29 -0800, Matthew Dillon wrote: phk wrote: you have a right to bully the only person who have consistently chugged away at the SMPng project when practically everybody else (you included) defected. This is an extreme misrepresentation of the facts. I

Re: Patch for critical_enter()/critical_exit() interrupt assem

2002-03-07 Thread Greg Lehey
On Thursday, 7 March 2002 at 14:30:47 -0800, Matthew Dillon wrote: after reverting the change and silently waiting for a week 1/ no person bothered to review it. 2/ people assumed the patch had gone away. Ummm, There are reviews in the archives that object to the API as it relates to

SMPng manager's responsibilities (was: Patch for critical_enter()/critical_exit() interrupt assem)

2002-03-07 Thread Greg Lehey
On Thursday, 7 March 2002 at 13:19:05 -0800, Julian Elischer wrote: On Thu, 7 Mar 2002, David Greenman wrote: No, Core has just said that he doesn't because he can over-rule any change in the kernel. And there is no requirement for him to justify it. That is definately *NOT* what core

Re: SMPng manager's responsibilities (was: Patch for critical_enter()/critical_exit() interrupt assem)

2002-03-07 Thread Greg Lehey
On Thursday, 7 March 2002 at 16:43:40 -0800, David Greenman wrote: On Thursday, 7 March 2002 at 13:19:05 -0800, Julian Elischer wrote: On Thu, 7 Mar 2002, David Greenman wrote: No, Core has just said that he doesn't because he can over-rule any change in the kernel. And there is no

Re: Patch to improve mutex collision performance

2002-02-20 Thread Greg Lehey
On Monday, 18 February 2002 at 15:38:07 -0500, Jake Burkholder wrote: Apparently, On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 11:51:44AM -0800, Matthew Dillon said words to the effect of; I'm fairly sure JHB does not have a patch to address this but, please, be my guest and check P4. Actually he

Version control software (was: Patch sets to date and timing tests with Giant out of userret.)

2002-02-20 Thread Greg Lehey
On Tuesday, 19 February 2002 at 16:44:06 -0800, David O'Brien wrote: On Tue, Feb 19, 2002 at 01:51:31PM -0700, M. Warner Losh wrote: Bitkeeper enforces the linux devleopment model to a large extent, In what way(s)? I'd be interested in this too. I've been using Bitkeeper for, well, Linux

Perforce repo (was: Patch sets to date and timing tests with Giant out of userret.)

2002-02-20 Thread Greg Lehey
On Tuesday, 19 February 2002 at 0:00:19 -0800, Peter Wemm wrote: Julian Elischer wrote: I'd prefer to be working on a branch of CVS if it weren't for the people that would scream whenever I moved my merged tag up. (eek eek cvsup bloat). That way i would have a dozen people helping me but

FreeBSD Project management (was: Patch sets to date and timing tests with Giant out of userret.)

2002-02-20 Thread Greg Lehey
On Monday, 18 February 2002 at 23:04:03 -0800, Peter Wemm wrote: Matthew Dillon wrote: What a waste.. John has already done all this stuff already (using td_ucred instead of p_ucred) over the entire tree. Cheers, -Peter He didn't instrument Giant, and if you actually believe that one

Re: FreeBSD Project management (was: Patch sets to date and timing tests with Giant out of userret.)

2002-02-20 Thread Greg Lehey
On Wednesday, 20 February 2002 at 18:35:37 -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: * Greg Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [020220 18:26] wrote: I'm not picking on jhb here. This is the project's fault, not any individual's. We need some kind of project management to coordinate this effort, or the results

Re: FreeBSD Project management (was: Patch sets to date and timing tests with Giant out of userret.)

2002-02-20 Thread Greg Lehey
On Wednesday, 20 February 2002 at 21:42:48 -0500, Andrew R. Reiter wrote: On Wed, 20 Feb 2002, George V. Neville-Neil wrote: I'm not in the core of the SMP stuff (the closest I'll get is the networking stuff) but I wonder if there is: Doesn't this belong on [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that SMP

Re: Patch to improve mutex collision performance

2002-02-20 Thread Greg Lehey
On Wednesday, 20 February 2002 at 23:48:12 -0500, John Baldwin wrote: On 21-Feb-02 Greg Lehey wrote: On Monday, 18 February 2002 at 15:38:07 -0500, Jake Burkholder wrote: Apparently, On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 11:51:44AM -0800, Matthew Dillon said words to the effect of; I'm fairly

Re: microuptime went backwards

2002-01-27 Thread Greg Lehey
On Saturday, 26 January 2002 at 16:28:04 +0100, Gabriel Ambuehl wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hello, I just installed 5 CURRENT (20.1. snapshot) on a K6-2 500 whic was previously running 4.4 STABLE without any problems but since CURRENT is running, it keeps printing error

Re: Vinum issue with USB CompactFlash reader.

2001-12-28 Thread Greg Lehey
On Friday, 28 December 2001 at 14:48:54 -0600, Jim Bryant wrote: I know this is probably a minor issue, as it is only an annoyance, and doesn't impact operation or performance, but still.. Ever since I concatenated some old drives to make a more reasonable capacity out of them, I have been

Re: Vinum issue with USB CompactFlash reader.

2001-12-28 Thread Greg Lehey
On Saturday, 29 December 2001 at 6:21:29 +0100, Bernd Walter wrote: On Sat, Dec 29, 2001 at 10:09:11AM +1030, Greg Lehey wrote: This has nothing to do with Vinum. The errors are at the device driver level, and they appear to relate only to the compact flash adaptor. Does it work when Vinum

Re: Vinum write performance (was: RAID performance (was: cvs commit: src/sys/kern subr_diskmbr.c))

2001-12-12 Thread Greg Lehey
On Wednesday, 12 December 2001 at 12:53:37 +0100, Bernd Walter wrote: On Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 04:22:05PM +1030, Greg Lehey wrote: On Tuesday, 11 December 2001 at 3:11:21 +0100, Bernd Walter wrote: striped: If you have 512byte stripes and have 2 disks. You access 64k which is put into 2 32k

Re: RAID performance (was: cvs commit: src/sys/kern subr_diskmbr.c)

2001-12-11 Thread Greg Lehey
On Tuesday, 11 December 2001 at 15:34:37 +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: On Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 11:06:33AM +1030, Greg Lehey wrote: On Monday, 10 December 2001 at 10:30:04 -0800, Matthew Dillon wrote: performance without it - for reading OR writing. It doesn't matter so much for RAID

Re: [SUGGESTION] - JFS for FreeBSD

2001-12-11 Thread Greg Lehey
On Tuesday, 11 December 2001 at 1:08:23 -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: Greg Lehey wrote: FS porting to FreeBSD is actually pretty trivial(*), though some transactioning changes to the FreeBSD VFS layer consumers (the system calls and NFS server code) would be necessary to make the journal roll

Vinum write performance (was: RAID performance (was: cvs commit: src/sys/kern subr_diskmbr.c))

2001-12-11 Thread Greg Lehey
On Tuesday, 11 December 2001 at 3:11:21 +0100, Bernd Walter wrote: On Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 11:06:33AM +1030, Greg Lehey wrote: On Monday, 10 December 2001 at 10:30:04 -0800, Matthew Dillon wrote: performance without it - for reading OR writing. It doesn't matter so much for RAID

Re: RAID performance (was: cvs commit: src/sys/kern subr_diskmbr.c)

2001-12-11 Thread Greg Lehey
On Tuesday, 11 December 2001 at 23:41:51 +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: On Wed, Dec 12, 2001 at 09:00:34AM +1030, Greg Lehey wrote: On Tuesday, 11 December 2001 at 15:34:37 +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: On Tue, Dec 11, 2001 at 11:06:33AM +1030, Greg Lehey wrote: On Monday, 10 December 2001 at 10:30:04

Re: [SUGGESTION] - JFS for FreeBSD

2001-12-11 Thread Greg Lehey
On Tuesday, 11 December 2001 at 19:42:30 -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: Greg Lehey wrote: Of course. But you're missing the point: ufs is *not* a port, it has been with BSD since the beginning. There is a similar list of items for JFS which would need to be addressed, with the additional issue

Re: Dangerously Decidated yet again (was : cvs commit: src/sys/kern subr_diskmbr.c)

2001-12-10 Thread Greg Lehey
On Monday, 10 December 2001 at 0:17:14 -0800, Mike Smith wrote: Still, it's my opinion that these BIOSes are simply broken: Joerg's personal opinion can go take a hike. The reality of the situation is that this table is required, and we're going to put it there. The reality of the

Re: [SUGGESTION] - JFS for FreeBSD

2001-12-10 Thread Greg Lehey
[Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html] Long-short syndrome in first message. On Monday, 10 December 2001 at 14:01:53 -0800, Hiten Pandya wrote: hi all, this is a wild idea...suggestion... i wanted to ask if there were any _plans_ to port JFS (Journaled File

Re: [SUGGESTION] - JFS for FreeBSD

2001-12-10 Thread Greg Lehey
On Tuesday, 11 December 2001 at 10:56:17 +1030, Greg Lehey wrote: On Monday, 10 December 2001 at 17:39:35 -0500, Matthew Emmerton wrote: * Hiten Pandya [EMAIL PROTECTED] [011210 16:02] wrote: hi all, this is a wild idea...suggestion... i wanted to ask if there were any _plans_ to port JFS

RAID performance (was: cvs commit: src/sys/kern subr_diskmbr.c)

2001-12-10 Thread Greg Lehey
On Monday, 10 December 2001 at 10:30:04 -0800, Matthew Dillon wrote: performance without it - for reading OR writing. It doesn't matter so much for RAID{1,10}, but it matters a whole lot for something like RAID-5 where the difference between a spindle-synced read or write

Dangerously Dedicated (was: cvs commit: src/sys/kern subr_diskmbr.c)

2001-12-10 Thread Greg Lehey
On Sunday, 9 December 2001 at 16:59:28 -0800, Peter Wemm wrote: Joerg Wunsch wrote: Mike Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd love to never hear those invalid, unuseful, misleading opinions from you again. ETOOMANYATTRIBUTES? :-) As long as you keep the feature of DD mode intact, i won't

Re: [SUGGESTION] - JFS for FreeBSD

2001-12-10 Thread Greg Lehey
On Monday, 10 December 2001 at 22:45:22 -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: Hiten Pandya wrote: i wanted to ask if there were any _plans_ to port JFS (Journaled File System) to FreeBSD... Not unless you have plans. When I was an IBM employee, they would not change the license, and so it's

Dangerously dedicated yet again (was: cvs commit: src/sys/kern subr_diskmbr.c)

2001-12-09 Thread Greg Lehey
On Sunday, 9 December 2001 at 22:52:58 +1030, Daniel O'Connor wrote: On 09-Dec-2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (The other day a coworker of mine wanted to use DD for some IBM DTLA disks, because he'd heard that the disks performed better that way - something to do with scatter-gather not

Dangerously Decidated yet again (was : cvs commit: src/sys/kern subr_diskmbr.c)

2001-12-09 Thread Greg Lehey
On Sunday, 9 December 2001 at 12:15:19 -0800, Mike Smith wrote: As Peter Wemm wrote: There shouldn't *be* bootblocks on non-boot disks. dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/da$n count=1 Dont use disklabel -B -rw da$n auto. Use disklabel -rw da$n auto. All my disks have bootblocks and (spare) boot

Re: Dangerously Decidated yet again (was : cvs commit: src/sys/kern subr_diskmbr.c)

2001-12-09 Thread Greg Lehey
On Sunday, 9 December 2001 at 18:32:38 -0800, Mike Smith wrote: On Sunday, 9 December 2001 at 19:46:06 +0100, Joerg Wunsch wrote: personal opinion Still, it's my opinion that these BIOSes are simply broken: Joerg's personal opinion can go take a hike. The reality of the situation is

Re: Dangerously dedicated yet again (was: cvs commit: src/sys/kern subr_diskmbr.c)

2001-12-09 Thread Greg Lehey
On Sunday, 9 December 2001 at 18:46:24 -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: Greg Lehey wrote: [ ... IBM DTLA drives ... ] No, that wasn't me. IBM DTLA drives are known to rotate fast enough near the spindle that the sustained write speed exceeds the ability of the controller electronics to keep

Re: Dangerously dedicated yet again (was: cvs commit: src/sys/kern subr_diskmbr.c)

2001-12-09 Thread Greg Lehey
On Sunday, 9 December 2001 at 22:44:52 -0800, Peter Wemm wrote: 3) You get a system lockup when booting the *computer* if *any* DD disk is attached anywhere at all. This is what killed the Thinkpad T20*, A20*, 600X etc. After all the yelling we did at IBM, it turned out to be

Re: HEADSUP ATA support for newer SiS chipsets added

2001-12-02 Thread Greg Lehey
On Sunday, 2 December 2001 at 11:56:45 +0100, Søren Schmidt wrote: Well, I finally got to it, please report back to me if this works for you on newer SiS chipsets, especially: SiS 630, 633, 635, 730, 733 and 735 Also, support for the older: SiS 530, 540 and 620 Should be in place now.

Re: Headsup! KSE Nay-sayers speak up!

2001-08-27 Thread Greg Lehey
On Monday, 27 August 2001 at 18:43:13 -0700, David O'Brien wrote: On Mon, Aug 27, 2001 at 03:13:19PM -0500, Jim Bryant wrote: Count my vote as a go-for-it. Blah. You're vote doesn't mean jack in this. Be that as it may, this kind of message does mean something, but it's nothing positive.

Re: panic: ffs_blkfree: freeing free block / + UDMA ICRC error with ad0

2001-08-18 Thread Greg Lehey
On Saturday, 18 August 2001 at 14:56:10 +0200, Alexander Leidinger wrote: Hi, -current as of Aug 16, ~2pm CEST: I don't see a freeing free block in the stack trace. What is missing from the trace below? Does the trace belong to the panic message? The trace shows two panics: the first looks

Re: devfs deficiencies (was: devfs and Vinum (was: any -current vinum problems?))

2001-08-17 Thread Greg Lehey
[Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html] Your MUA wraps incorrectly. On Friday, 17 August 2001 at 9:16:59 +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Julian Elischer writes: Well you timed them out without askling the developer what he had in

Re: devfs deficiencies (was: devfs and Vinum (was: any -current vinum problems?))

2001-08-16 Thread Greg Lehey
On Thursday, 16 August 2001 at 6:36:45 +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Greg Lehey writes: On Wednesday, 15 August 2001 at 19:17:47 +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ju lian Elischer writes: the lack of subdirectory support

devfs deficiencies (was: devfs and Vinum (was: any -current vinum problems?))

2001-08-15 Thread Greg Lehey
On Wednesday, 15 August 2001 at 19:17:47 +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ju lian Elischer writes: the lack of subdirectory support is a pitty. There is support for subdirectories: ls -la /dev/fd What am I supposed to see there? I get three character

devfs and Vinum (was: any -current vinum problems?)

2001-08-14 Thread Greg Lehey
On Tuesday, 14 August 2001 at 19:26:09 -0400, Michael Lucas wrote: Before I start generating crash dumps etc., are there any gotchas with Vinum -current? I'm using devfs on a SMP system, upgraded 3 days ago. I get a panic whenever I stripe something. Ah, now you say devfs. There was a

Re: devfs and Vinum (was: any -current vinum problems?)

2001-08-14 Thread Greg Lehey
On Wednesday, 15 August 2001 at 7:16:02 +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Andrew Kenneth Milton writes: +---[ Greg Lehey ]-- [snip] whether it's been fixed. Basically, devfs as supplied in CURRENT had a 16 character limit on device

Re: Vinum + DEVFS ?

2001-07-01 Thread Greg Lehey
On Sunday, 1 July 2001 at 14:22:36 -0500, Patrick Hartling wrote: Alfred Perlstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Patrick Hartling [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010630 14:04] wrote: I just got two new hard drives, and I am preparing to set them up to do RAID-1 with Vinum. A few weeks ago (around the time

Re: panic from May

2001-06-18 Thread Greg Lehey
On Saturday, 16 June 2001 at 15:22:39 -0600, Chad David wrote: I get the following panic on a GENERIC kernel from around May 23: (copied by hand) /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_synch.c:385: sleeping with vm locked from /usr/src/sys/vm/vm_pager.c:428 panic: sleeping process owns a mutext

Re: The FreeBSD core team needs your help

2001-06-03 Thread Greg Lehey
On Sunday, 3 June 2001 at 16:54:47 -0600, Warner Losh wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Greg Lehey writes: Could you stick some numbers in here please. How much email does core@ get ? Normally much less than 10 messages a day. In Q1 2001, we got 650ish mail messages. I'd expect Q2

Re: The FreeBSD core team needs your help

2001-06-01 Thread Greg Lehey
On Friday, 1 June 2001 at 17:54:13 +0200, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: On Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:41:57 +0930 Greg Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: GL When a request or question is sent to core@ you reply with an Could you stick some numbers in here please. How much email does core@ get

The FreeBSD core team needs your help

2001-05-31 Thread Greg Lehey
Those of you who have been following the mailing lists will have noticed (or participated in) a thread bemoaning the continued lack of feedback from the core team. That thread is still very active, but one suggestion (made by phk) was to send out a message asking for help getting things done.

Re: sbin/vinum broken

2001-05-24 Thread Greg Lehey
On Thursday, 24 May 2001 at 18:28:19 +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: On Thu, May 24, 2001 at 09:24:56AM +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: On Wednesday, 23 May 2001 at 16:56:39 +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: Hi! src/sbin/vinum is broken at the moment. It doesn't build without -DVINUMDEBUG. *sigh*. I

Re: sbin/vinum broken

2001-05-23 Thread Greg Lehey
On Wednesday, 23 May 2001 at 16:56:39 +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: Hi! src/sbin/vinum is broken at the moment. It doesn't build without -DVINUMDEBUG. *sigh*. I could have sworn I tested this, but it seems I did it in a parallel universe. It's fixed now, I think. me-pointyhat++; A quick

Re: world broken

2001-05-22 Thread Greg Lehey
On Tuesday, 22 May 2001 at 3:42:08 -0500, Storms of Perfection wrote: Latest CVS (about 30 minutes ago) In file included from /usr/src/sbin/vinum/commands.c:56: /usr/src/sbin/vinum/vext.h:77: dev/vinum/vinumutil.h: No such file or directory mkdep: compile failed *** Error code 1 Did you

Breakage in today's -CURRENT

2001-04-19 Thread Greg Lehey
I've just built a couple of worlds from -CURRENT cvsupped at 2030 UTC on the 18th, and at 0600 UTC on the 19th. In each case, I have massive problems, apparently with the synchronization. Here's some log file output: Apr 19 18:11:34 zaphod /boot/kernel/kernel:

Kernel preemption, yes or no? (was: Filesystem gets a huge performance boost)

2001-04-17 Thread Greg Lehey
On Tuesday, 17 April 2001 at 1:19:57 -0700, Alfred Perlstein wrote: * Matt Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010415 23:16] wrote: For example, all this work on a preemptive kernel is just insane. Our entire kernel is built on the concept of not being

Re: ** HEADS UP ** portmap daemon renamed to rpcbind

2001-03-26 Thread Greg Lehey
On Monday, 26 March 2001 at 18:19:06 +1000, Andrew Reilly wrote: On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 05:24:14PM +0930, Greg Lehey wrote: On Sunday, 25 March 2001 at 23:48:10 -0800, Doug Barton wrote: Greg Lehey wrote: On Wednesday, 21 March 2001 at 10:44:38 -0800, David O'Brien wrote: The Portmapper

Re: ** HEADS UP ** portmap daemon renamed to rpcbind

2001-03-25 Thread Greg Lehey
On Wednesday, 21 March 2001 at 10:44:38 -0800, David O'Brien wrote: The Portmapper binary has been renamed from `portmap' to `rpcbind'. Why? Greg -- Finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: how's vinum these days with DEVFS?

2001-03-21 Thread Greg Lehey
On Sunday, 11 March 2001 at 22:26:11 -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: * Greg Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010311 21:20] wrote: On Sunday, 11 March 2001 at 20:39:03 -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: * Greg Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010311 15:21] wrote: On Sunday, 11 March 2001 at 3:27:02 -0800, Alfred

Re: BP6 motherboard and hangs ...

2001-03-17 Thread Greg Lehey
On Saturday, 17 March 2001 at 16:43:14 -0400, The Hermit Hacker wrote: Anyone have any experience with the Abit BP6 motherboards? I've been reporting and talking about problems with -CURRENT the past little while, where when I start X, it pretty much dies soon after ... well, this weekend,

Re: how's vinum these days with DEVFS?

2001-03-11 Thread Greg Lehey
On Sunday, 11 March 2001 at 3:27:02 -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: * Niels Chr. Bank-Pedersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010311 02:29] wrote: I'll sneak in my experience with DEVFS+vinum here as well: vinum: loaded vinum: reading configuration from /dev/da3s1f vinum: updating configuration

Re: how's vinum these days with DEVFS?

2001-03-11 Thread Greg Lehey
On Sunday, 11 March 2001 at 20:39:03 -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: * Greg Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] [010311 15:21] wrote: On Sunday, 11 March 2001 at 3:27:02 -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: Vinum+DEVFS doesn't make the million symlinks that non-devfs vinum does. The only symlinks

Re: how's vinum these days with DEVFS?

2001-03-10 Thread Greg Lehey
On Saturday, 10 March 2001 at 17:12:42 -0800, Matt Jacob wrote: (top of tree within the last day or so): Things seem *almost* okay, but: nellie.feral.com root vinum vinum - stripe -v /dev/da3a /dev/da4a /dev/da5a /dev/da6a /dev/da7a /dev/da8a /dev/da9a /dev/da10a /dev/da11a /dev/da12a

Re: Watch your devfs permissions in driver make_dev calls

2001-02-03 Thread Greg Lehey
On Friday, 2 February 2001 at 20:10:10 -0800, Peter Wemm wrote: Robert Watson wrote: crw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 78, 0 Dec 31 1969 pci This one may appear harmless, but it is not. It is trivially easy to create an alignment fault (fatal on an alpha) with the userland pciconf

Re: DEVFS newbie...

2001-01-29 Thread Greg Lehey
On Monday, 29 January 2001 at 16:10:24 +0100, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Steve Ames writes: On Sun, Jan 28, 2001 at 10:19:34PM -0800, John Baldwin wrote: On 29-Jan-01 John Indra wrote: 2. If something change to the source tree's MAKEDEV, what should I do?

Re: DEVFS newbie...

2001-01-29 Thread Greg Lehey
On Tuesday, 30 January 2001 at 8:37:56 +0600, Boris Popov wrote: On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Greg Lehey wrote: You can create symlinks in /dev, you cannot mknod there. What is the reason for this? How does a program or script know whether the system is running DEVFS or not? I don't see

Re: HEADS UP: I386_CPU

2001-01-17 Thread Greg Lehey
On Tuesday, 16 January 2001 at 9:28:43 -0500, Will Andrews wrote: On Tue, Jan 16, 2001 at 09:16:14AM -0500, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: Wont this make installing using sysinstall a bit hard? I know the generic kernel includes all the CPU lines, so that all cpu's are recognized... so are you

Re: HEADS UP: I386_CPU

2001-01-17 Thread Greg Lehey
On Wednesday, 17 January 2001 at 19:16:18 -0500, Will Andrews wrote: On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 04:21:15PM +1100, Greg Lehey wrote: Don't forget that the i386 is still a popular CPU for embedded work. Of course, embedded people will have less of an issue with sysinstall. Of course

Re: Fatal trap while printing under SMP

2001-01-02 Thread Greg Lehey
On Tuesday, 2 January 2001 at 20:49:04 -0800, Manfred Antar wrote: When trying to print using a current SMP kernel, I get the following: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode cpuid = 1; lapic.id = 0c00 fault virtual address = 0xe1810412 fault code = supervisor

Supported wireless PCMCIA cards (was: Lucent Orinoco Gold PCCard?)

2000-12-10 Thread Greg Lehey
On Sunday, 10 December 2000 at 15:46:27 -0700, Warner Losh wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" writes: : Is there a list of wireless pc cards that work (and how well they work) : with FreeBSD?? There's /etc/defaults/pccard.conf, which says breifly: ...

Re: Hangs during 'make world -j4' on recent current

2000-12-08 Thread Greg Lehey
On Saturday, 9 December 2000 at 8:07:34 +0200, John Hay wrote: For over a week now, I have been unable to complete a 'make world' on my -CURRENT box if I specify -j4. The system hangs and is completely unresponsive. This is a dual Celeron and an Abit BP6 motherboard. As far as I can

Hangs during 'make world -j4' on recent current

2000-12-07 Thread Greg Lehey
For over a week now, I have been unable to complete a 'make world' on my -CURRENT box if I specify -j4. The system hangs and is completely unresponsive. This is a dual Celeron and an Abit BP6 motherboard. As far as I can tell, nobody knows what's causing this, nor even how to attack the

Re: -current kernel hangs machine solid ...

2000-12-06 Thread Greg Lehey
On Wednesday, 6 December 2000 at 17:37:14 -0600, Michael Harnois wrote: Just checking in ... I haven't had one of these random hangs in the last week or so. Anyone else? Yup. My freshly installed machine has hung up again. Completely dead, apparently during a make world. Greg -- Finger

Panic m_copydata, negative off out of tcp_output

2000-10-12 Thread Greg Lehey
I've been having a few panics lately with a PRE_SMPNG snap: kgdb) bt #0 dumpsys () at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:461 #1 0xc01cf043 in boot (howto=256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:302 #2 0xc01cf3e5 in panic (fmt=0xc037db85 "m_copydata, negative off %d") at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:550 #3

Re: very high CPU time demand from process #10 ('idle')

2000-10-09 Thread Greg Lehey
On Sunday, 8 October 2000 at 7:51:20 +, attila! wrote: -- ps -ax -- 0 ?? DLs0:00.40 (swapper) 1 ?? ILs0:00.07 /sbin/init -- 2 ?? DL 0:04.23 (pagedaemon) 3 ?? DL 0:00.65 (vmdaemon) 4 ?? DL 0:00.70 (bufdaemon) 5 ?? DL

Re: interesting problem

2000-09-28 Thread Greg Lehey
[Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html] On Thursday, 28 September 2000 at 19:54:01 -0500, Tony Johnson wrote: On Thursday, September 28, 2000 5:33 AM, Thomas David Rivers wrote: Alfred Perlstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Tony Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] [000927

Repeated panic out of chgsbsize

2000-09-28 Thread Greg Lehey
In the past couple of days, I've had a couple of panics out of chgsbsize: (kgdb) bt #0 boot (howto=260) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:303 #1 0xc01cbac9 in panic (fmt=0xc0380e6f "page fault") at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:553 #2 0xc0316466 in trap_fatal (frame=0xc038a5c4, eva=48) at

Re: interesting problem

2000-09-28 Thread Greg Lehey
hat thread, it might give you an idea about how we go about solving problems in -CURRENT. On Thursday, September 28, 2000 8:51 PM, Greg Lehey wrote: On Thursday, 28 September 2000 at 19:54:01 -0500, Tony Johnson wrote: I have a dual PPro-200 systems. aha-3950u2 scsi card. Teflon cables from scsi-

Re: panic in kernel configuration menu

2000-09-28 Thread Greg Lehey
On Thursday, 28 September 2000 at 22:20:52 -0400, Wesley Morgan wrote: When the kernel configuration menu comes up with the three possible selections, pressing ctrl-alt-del ends up with this message: panic: spin lock (null) held by 0x0 for 5 seconds sounds like one that should be an easy

Re: interesting problem

2000-09-27 Thread Greg Lehey
[Format recovered--see http://www.lemis.com/email/email-format.html] On Wednesday, 27 September 2000 at 19:07:17 -0500, Tony Johnson wrote: On Wednesday, September 27, 2000 6:48 PM, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Tony Johnson wrote: When I booted the 9/27/2000 (ie. today) I got a

Re: Locking doc.?

2000-09-22 Thread Greg Lehey
On Friday, 22 September 2000 at 19:50:11 -0700, Julian Elischer wrote: Do we have a document that descibes in great detail the locking policy that the SMPng code should follow? I've seen several descriptionms as to how it might be done, but I haven't seen a "Ok we've decided that this is the

Re: 1131 unneeded includes in the kernel...

2000-09-21 Thread Greg Lehey
On Wednesday, 20 September 2000 at 3:10:21 -0400, Brandon D. Valentine wrote: On Tue, 19 Sep 2000, Matthew Jacob wrote: Oh- don't get me wrong. Valuable info. Thanks. What would be very cool is to feed this into another script which strips these unnecesary includes out. Then do a test

Re: Debugging -current SMPNG HANG on heavy disk-io

2000-09-17 Thread Greg Lehey
On Sunday, 17 September 2000 at 16:29:41 +0200, Michael Reifenberger wrote: Hi, ... The frames above are what the system went to as the result of your debugger request. I'd also be interested to see the output of the 'icnt' macro (if this is UP machine) or 'icnt1' (if it's SMP), and 'ps'

Re: Debugging -current SMPNG HANG on heavy disk-io

2000-09-17 Thread Greg Lehey
On Monday, 18 September 2000 at 1:23:30 +0200, Michael Reifenberger wrote: On Mon, 18 Sep 2000, Greg Lehey wrote: ... You could also show the content of p-p_pid. If you don't have a p pointer in the frame you're looking at, use ((struct *proc)gd_curproc)-p_pid and ((struct *proc)gd_curproc

Re: Debugging -current SMPNG HANG on heavy disk-io

2000-09-17 Thread Greg Lehey
On Monday, 18 September 2000 at 1:29:34 +0200, Michael Reifenberger wrote: On Mon, 18 Sep 2000, Greg Lehey wrote: ... Oops, that's what comes of typing hurriedly early in the morning. p ((struct proc *)gd_curproc)-p_comm p ((struct proc *)gd_curproc)-p_pid Works better: (kgdb) p

Re: Debugging -current SMPNG HANG on heavy disk-io

2000-09-16 Thread Greg Lehey
On Sunday, 17 September 2000 at 0:32:01 +0200, Michael Reifenberger wrote: Hi, -current hangs reliable (as described in another mail) for me. For short: "tar cf /dev/null /usr/ports; tar cf - /usr/ports | tar tf -" locks the system solid after a few minutes. The first tar itself

No block devices (was: VMWare on -current, how fast should I expect it to be?)

2000-09-12 Thread Greg Lehey
On Tuesday, 12 September 2000 at 10:13:16 -0400, Thomas David Rivers wrote: Julian Elischer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: Nik Clayton wrote: Hi guys, For those of you running VMWare (2) on -current, how fast do you expect it to be? I'm running it quite successfully on a 750MHz PIII w/

Re: page fault in sched_ithd

2000-09-11 Thread Greg Lehey
On Monday, 11 September 2000 at 17:44:43 +1100, Bruce Evans wrote: On Mon, 11 Sep 2000, Greg Lehey wrote: On Monday, 11 September 2000 at 13:18:37 +1100, Bruce Evans wrote: The stray interrupt handler needs to have a thread, or stray interrupts need to be handled as traps. Stray interrupts

Re: page fault in sched_ithd

2000-09-10 Thread Greg Lehey
On Sunday, 10 September 2000 at 0:23:15 -0500, Mike Meyer wrote: Ben Smithurst writes: After poking around a bit with remote GDB, this seems to be caused by a stray IRQ 7, since irq == 7, ir == ithds[irq] == NULL, ir-foo == BOOM. The attached rather crude patch has "fixed" the problem for

Re: page fault in sched_ithd

2000-09-10 Thread Greg Lehey
On Monday, 11 September 2000 at 13:18:37 +1100, Bruce Evans wrote: On Sat, 9 Sep 2000, Ben Smithurst wrote: After poking around a bit with remote GDB, this seems to be caused by a stray IRQ 7, since irq == 7, ir == ithds[irq] == NULL, ir-foo == BOOM. The attached rather crude patch has

Re: New ATA tagged queuing patch available

2000-09-08 Thread Greg Lehey
On Friday, 8 September 2000 at 13:48:37 -0500, Chris Dillon wrote: On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, Soren Schmidt wrote: If I dont get any serious problem reports I'll commit this shortly, making FreeBSD the first OS that has tagged Queuing support for ATA drives :) Wow, even before Windows? :-) He

Re: SMPng CPU states

2000-09-08 Thread Greg Lehey
On Friday, 8 September 2000 at 14:17:58 -0300, Brandon Hume wrote: I've built world and kernel yesterday, and was delighted to see the AIC7xxx problems had gone away. I actually got tripped up by having Linux emulation enabled and forgetting to remove old modules, but that was fixed quick.

Re: SMP changes committed ... ?

2000-09-07 Thread Greg Lehey
On Thursday, 7 September 2000 at 3:11:27 -0300, The Hermit Hacker wrote: I thought one of the SMP developers announced that it was now committed, yet I haven't seen any commit messages for it ... I'm running the newest patch, so am waiting for the commit messages before I actually do my

Re: SMP mega-commit complete

2000-09-07 Thread Greg Lehey
On Thursday, 7 September 2000 at 20:06:20 +0900, Motomichi Matsuzaki wrote: At 6 Sep 2000 18:35:17 -0700, Jason Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you run into issues that appear related to the SMP changes, and they aren't listed as known issues, please bring them up on the -smp or -current

Re: 'interrupt-level buffer overflows' for sio device?

2000-09-07 Thread Greg Lehey
On Thursday, 7 September 2000 at 17:00:15 -0600, Chuck Paterson wrote: FYI, this is very likely not caused by the heavy weight interrupt threads, but rather because the interrupt threads can't be run because the giant lock is held by a process running in the kernel. Once we get drivers

Re: microuptime() went backwards

2000-09-07 Thread Greg Lehey
On Thursday, 7 September 2000 at 17:28:02 -0700, John Baldwin wrote: Steve Ames wrote: Just upgraded to -CURRENT as of about noon (EST) today. At reboot I got a lot of these: microuptime() went backwards (1.7682417 - 1.997434) I recall reading in -current earlier this week that someone

Re: microuptime() went backwards

2000-09-07 Thread Greg Lehey
On Thursday, 7 September 2000 at 17:48:06 -0700, John Baldwin wrote: Greg Lehey wrote: On Thursday, 7 September 2000 at 17:28:02 -0700, John Baldwin wrote: Steve Ames wrote: Just upgraded to -CURRENT as of about noon (EST) today. At reboot I got a lot of these: microuptime() went

Re: microuptime() went backwards

2000-09-07 Thread Greg Lehey
On Thursday, 7 September 2000 at 22:49:30 -0400, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: The point I'm making is that we've had these problems before SMPng, and that you can't automatically assume that it's SMPng just because you get the messages. On the other hand, the 7 digits seem to be a pretty

Re: microuptime() went backwards

2000-09-07 Thread Greg Lehey
On Friday, 8 September 2000 at 0:18:07 -0400, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: On Fri, 8 Sep 2000, Greg Lehey wrote: On Thursday, 7 September 2000 at 22:49:30 -0400, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: The point I'm making is that we've had these problems before SMPng, and that you can't automatically

Re: microuptime() went backwards

2000-09-07 Thread Greg Lehey
On Thursday, 7 September 2000 at 22:43:11 -0700, Mike Smith wrote: Sep 7 14:35:55 laptop /kernel: microuptime() went backwards (10412.355980 - 10412, -694583121)y this is bad.. right ? :-) Well, at any rate it looks very funny. If this is a laptop, try building a kernel without apm and

Re: hints static wiring

2000-08-28 Thread Greg Lehey
On Monday, 28 August 2000 at 8:24:50 -0500, Mike Meyer wrote: Maxim Sobolev writes: Mike Meyer wrote: Will the system fail to boot if there isn't an empty device.hints file? No, it will boot, but some devices (like keyboard, console etc) would not work. That's clearly not true - I just

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