Re: Base packaging

2003-09-19 Thread Paul Richards
On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 02:02, M. Warner Losh wrote: Why would you want to package sbin? Where do you see this work going? What problems do you think this will solve? Doing things a top level directory at a time isn't very interesting, but since it looks like a demo, perhaps you could sketch

Re: Base packaging

2003-09-19 Thread Paul Richards
On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 02:10, M. Warner Losh wrote: P.S. How do you handle the packlist generation? The ports system doesn't automatically generate these things, as far as I can tell, and I didn't see anything that you've added to do this. My agenda, if you will, on this is to deal with:

Re: Base packaging

2003-09-18 Thread Paul Richards
On Thu, 2003-09-18 at 11:25, Alexander Leidinger wrote: On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 16:27:03 +0100 Paul Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, I suspect that a marginally better place to use these would be in the make distribute target that make release uses. This way, the files

Re: Base packaging

2003-09-18 Thread Paul Richards
On Thu, 2003-09-18 at 12:09, Alexander Leidinger wrote: On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 11:28:31 +0100 Paul Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have programs in the ports tree which use our bsd.*.mk infrastructure. Will there be a problem if such a program gets installed from ports (will it try

Base packaging

2003-09-17 Thread Paul Richards
I've got a prototype setup that packages the base tree. It turned out to be very simple. It needs a lot more polishing and testing but it looks like this can definitely be made to work with just some tidying up and re-arranging of our existing make files. I've succesfully created packages of /sbin

Re: Base packaging

2003-09-17 Thread Paul Richards
On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 15:45, Mark Murray wrote: Paul Richards writes: I've got a prototype setup that packages the base tree. It turned out to be very simple. It needs a lot more polishing and testing but it looks like this can definitely be made to work with just some tidying up and re

Re: Base packaging

2003-09-17 Thread Paul Richards
On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 06:53:41PM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: On Wednesday, September 17, 2003, at 04:27 pm, Paul Richards wrote: I was thinking of adding an option to install so it registers the file in a plist rather than actually doing the install. A seperate make plist target could

Re: Text file busy

2003-09-05 Thread Paul Richards
On Thu, 2003-09-04 at 19:20, Tim Kientzle wrote: Depends on how you're installing the binary. It has always been safe to do either of the following: * Rename the current executable and then install the new one. * Unlink the current executable and then install the new one. Many tools

Text file busy

2003-09-04 Thread Paul Richards
Overwriting a file that's currently executing results in a Text file busy error. When did this start happening? This was something that was fixed way back on FreeBSD but it seems to be a problem again. Paul. intY has scanned this email for all known viruses (www.inty.com)

Re: Email accounts on FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE

2003-06-21 Thread Paul Richards
On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 05:16:11PM -0400, Alex Ayala wrote: Ok, maybe...yes I read what I wrote and didn't quite explain what I really wanted to say. I want to setup accounts on my box so users can retrieve emails by accessing my pop server. Do I need to setup user accounts on my box with

Re: kernel: lnc0: Missed packet -- no reviece buffer QWE

2003-06-11 Thread Paul Richards
On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 09:51:02PM +1000, Anthony Wyatt wrote: Hi Everyone, I'm in the process of hand building a FreeBSD 5.1 CURRENT #2 box. I now have a booting system that I can log onto and use, but my network interface does not work :-( I get lots of: kernel: lnc0: Missed

sh job control

2003-06-11 Thread Paul Richards
I've installed a current built last night and job control no longer works in /bin/sh or /usr/local/bin/zsh, but it does with csh. ctr-c and ctrl-z are just ignored with both the sh style shells. -- Tis a wise thing to know what is wanted, wiser still to know when it has been achieved and wisest

Re: CURRENT console setttings borked

2003-06-11 Thread Paul Richards
On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 11:21:16PM -0400, Andrew Lankford wrote: Info about my buildworld: FreeBSD bogushost2 5.1-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT #0: Wed Jun 11 21:33:34 EDT 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ARL5KERNEL i386 In addition to my pppoe/adsl connection no longer

Re: kernel: lnc0: Missed packet -- no reviece buffer QWE

2003-06-11 Thread Paul Richards
On Wed, Jun 11, 2003 at 03:39:33PM +0100, Bruce Cran wrote: I get this all the time on my FreeBSD 4.8-RELEASE system, which is a P75 with a lnc NIC. The man page does say this driver is one of the more verbose ones, and I think the message about no recieve buffer is just that the system cannot

Panic - blockable sleep lock

2003-06-10 Thread Paul Richards
Just got this: panic: blockable sleep lock (sleep mutex) sellck @ /usr/src/sys/kern/sys_generic.c:1190 Debugger(panic) Stopped at Debugger+0x54: xchgl %ebx,in_Debugger.0 db t Debugger(c029bc34,c02de7a0,c029e847,df12da20,1) at Debugger+0x54 panic(c029e847,c02a9469,c029f08e,c029f065,4a6) at

Re: VFS: C99 sparse format for struct vfsops

2003-06-06 Thread Paul Richards
On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 02:43:20PM +0100, Doug Rabson wrote: On Wed, 2003-06-04 at 14:16, Paul Richards wrote: On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 01:33:46PM +0100, Doug Rabson wrote: Interfaces actually can be added at runtime. Existing objects (i.e. objects instantiated before the new interface

Re: VFS: C99 sparse format for struct vfsops

2003-06-06 Thread Paul Richards
On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 04:06:16PM +0100, Doug Rabson wrote: On Thu, 2003-06-05 at 15:51, Paul Richards wrote: On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 02:43:20PM +0100, Doug Rabson wrote: On Wed, 2003-06-04 at 14:16, Paul Richards wrote: On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 01:33:46PM +0100, Doug Rabson wrote

Re: Way forward with BIND 8

2003-06-06 Thread Paul Richards
On Fri, Jun 06, 2003 at 03:01:02AM -0700, Doug Barton wrote: On Fri, 6 Jun 2003, Brad Knowles wrote: At 12:09 AM -0700 2003/06/06, Doug Barton wrote: FYI, for those wondering why I'm not considering BIND 9 for import, please see http://people.freebsd.org/~dougb/whybind8.html

Re: VFS: C99 sparse format for struct vfsops

2003-06-05 Thread Paul Richards
On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 01:33:46PM +0100, Doug Rabson wrote: Interfaces actually can be added at runtime. Existing objects (i.e. objects instantiated before the new interface was added) will continue to work as before. If methods from the new interface are called on old objects, the default

Re: Libthr stable enough for testing

2003-06-04 Thread Paul Richards
On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 06:28:26PM -0400, James Tanis wrote: On Thu, 29 May 2003 17:39:18 -0400 (EDT) John Baldwin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It has been committed. Build rtld with WITH_LIBMAP defined and then setup a libmap.conf. -- Alright, I compiled and installed

Re: VFS: C99 sparse format for struct vfsops

2003-06-04 Thread Paul Richards
On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 09:04:11AM -0700, Hiten Pandya wrote: On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 08:17:03AM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: Hiten Pandya wrote: My fingers have been itching to do this since the day phk@ planted this idea in my brain (re: cdevsw initialisations). Basically, it changes

Re: VFS: C99 sparse format for struct vfsops

2003-06-04 Thread Paul Richards
On Tue, Jun 03, 2003 at 08:56:59AM -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote: In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Paul Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : You should look at kobj, it's precisely this sort of dynamic : dispatching that it was designed to support. Too bad it is a little slow

Re: VFS: C99 sparse format for struct vfsops

2003-06-04 Thread Paul Richards
On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 18:19, M. Warner Losh wrote: In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Paul Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : I'm not sure that kobj actually needs to be MP safe if the kobj : struct is always embedded in a structure at a higher level i.e. : a use of kobj in say

Re: VFS: C99 sparse format for struct vfsops

2003-06-04 Thread Paul Richards
On Mon, 2003-06-02 at 21:04, Paul Richards wrote: The tradeoff with using an index into an array is that there'd be a heavy penalty for growing the array if an extra method didn't fit, but that would be exceptionally rare and with our present usage we'd never have that happen. I'm not sure

Re: VFS: C99 sparse format for struct vfsops

2003-06-04 Thread Paul Richards
On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 22:36, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Baldwin writes: On 02-Jun-2003 Paul Richards wrote: On Mon, 2003-06-02 at 21:04, Paul Richards wrote: The tradeoff with using an index into an array is that there'd be a heavy penalty

Re: fxp0: device timeout with 5.1BETA2

2003-06-04 Thread Paul Richards
On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 22:00, Tobias Roth wrote: Hi I still get a fxp0: device timeout I get these as well. Is it on irq9 by any chance, along with acpi0 ? -- Tis a wise thing to know what is wanted, wiser still to know when it has been achieved and wisest of all to know when it is

Re: VFS: C99 sparse format for struct vfsops

2003-06-04 Thread Paul Richards
On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 23:09, M. Warner Losh wrote: In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Paul Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : The possible methods available in an interface are fixed, they're : defined in the .m files. No it isn't. One can add additional interfaces at any time

Re: fxp0: device timeout with 5.1BETA2

2003-06-04 Thread Paul Richards
On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 23:17, Tobias Roth wrote: On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 10:59:22PM +0100, Paul Richards wrote: On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 22:00, Tobias Roth wrote: fxp0: device timeout I get these as well. Is it on irq9 by any chance, along with acpi0 ? No. It's on irc 11 device 8

Re: VFS: C99 sparse format for struct vfsops

2003-06-04 Thread Paul Richards
On Wed, 2003-06-04 at 00:03, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Paul Richards wr ites: On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 22:36, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: I thought the point in KOBJ was that it was extensible so you could KLD load stuff which added more methods ? Not exactly

Re: VFS: C99 sparse format for struct vfsops

2003-06-04 Thread Paul Richards
On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 10:01:07AM +0100, Doug Rabson wrote: On Tuesday 03 June 2003 12:00 am, Paul Richards wrote: On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 23:09, M. Warner Losh wrote: In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Paul Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : The possible methods available

Re: VFS: C99 sparse format for struct vfsops

2003-06-04 Thread Paul Richards
On Wed, Jun 04, 2003 at 12:09:00PM +0100, Doug Rabson wrote: On Mon, 2003-06-02 at 21:04, Paul Richards wrote: On Tue, 2003-06-03 at 18:19, M. Warner Losh wrote: Notice how thread 1's _m gets set based on the results of the kobj lookup, and we have a race, even if thread1 and thread2

Re: cvs commit: src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica - Imported sources

2003-06-03 Thread Paul Richards
On Wed, May 28, 2003 at 03:39:44PM -0700, Nate Lawson wrote: On Wed, 28 May 2003, Larry Rosenman wrote: --On Wednesday, May 28, 2003 03:59:24 -0500 Larry Rosenman Ok, with today's sources, I still get a page not present panic for address (0x7) on transistion to battery. as a followup,

Re: policy on GPL'd drivers?

2003-05-29 Thread Paul Richards
On Wed, May 28, 2003 at 12:04:17PM +0200, Marcin Dalecki wrote: Harti Brandt wrote: MDNO no and again no. This would repeat the same design mistake MDthat is already in Linux. On API level you DO NOT WANT versioning. MDWhat you really want is: type signature cheking. Like for example MDdone

Re: policy on GPL'd drivers?

2003-05-29 Thread Paul Richards
On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 17:48, dave wrote: I don't think anyone is talking about symbol versioning. The issue is stamping the API at a particular point in time that shows it behaves in a specified guaranteed way. The module system has all the hooks to deal with versioning. What's

Re: gbde Performance - 35Mb/s vs 5.2 MB/s

2003-05-28 Thread Paul Richards
On Wed, May 28, 2003 at 10:11:19AM +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Guido van Rooij writes: On Mon, May 26, 2003 at 02:25:08PM +0200, Heiko Schaefer wrote: Poul gave me the following tip on this list in a mail on Tue, 29 Apr 2003: Remember to set the

Re: ACPI thermal panics ThinkPad 600X

2003-02-16 Thread Paul Richards
: ACPI thermal panics my ThinkPad 600X, is anyone interested in a crash dump analysis? Cheers, -- Paul Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] FreeBSD Services Ltd To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message

Re: 5.0 Freezes under high load with SMP.

2003-01-17 Thread Paul Richards
On Tue, Jan 14, 2003 at 05:19:36PM -0800, wade wrote: I tried this, but when the box froze, the keyboard was completely unresponsive, no numlock, nothing. No interrupts getting serviced. I don't know if it's the same bug or not but writing a CD with burncd lock my box up solid as well.

Current issues

2002-12-10 Thread Paul Richards
I'm trying to thrash 5.0 a bit but I've run into some rather more basic issues right off. 1) I think I'm suffering from the 1GB memory hang problem. I'm definitely getting the hangs :-) I'll leave this for now since I'll do some more testing tonight and it's already been raised by someone else

Re: Current issues

2002-12-10 Thread Paul Richards
On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 04:02:14PM -0500, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: On Tue, 2002-12-10 at 15:48, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 02:01:08PM +, Paul Richards wrote: 3) The compiler won't build some C++ packages, evolution being the particular one bothering me

Re: Removing perl in make world

2002-07-06 Thread Paul Richards
On Sat, 2002-07-06 at 03:46, Garance A Drosihn wrote: At 3:05 AM +0100 7/6/02, Paul Richards wrote: Let's start with a premise: No-one running current is using it for anything other than developing FreeBSD. This is assumption is too limiting. It shouldn't be. You're trying to defend

Re: Removing perl in make world

2002-07-06 Thread Paul Richards
On Sat, 2002-07-06 at 13:29, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: On Fri, Jul 05, 2002 at 10:45:41AM +0100, Paul Richards wrote: I think we should add a target to make world that checks for the existence of an old base install of Perl and removes it if it exists. As a general principle, if we do

Re: Removing perl in make world

2002-07-05 Thread Paul Richards
been running -cruft and not -current at all. -- Paul Richards| FreeBSD Services Ltd | Order 4.6 on DVD today! http://www.freebsd-services.com | To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message

Re: Removing perl in make world

2002-07-05 Thread Paul Richards
should be moved to a compat dir and not deleted. I do this periodically on my dev box and it does show up issues. I think it's something we should build into our infrastructure as a step towards a better known environment for testing -current. -- Paul Richards | FreeBSD Services

cdefs and XFree86

2002-04-04 Thread Paul Richards
The recent changes to /usr/include/sys/cdefs.h have broken the build of XFree86-Server. The problem is with the _XOPEN_SOURCE macro. At line cdefs.h it's checked i.e. #if _XOPEN_SOURCE = 600 but in XFree86 it's defined as #define _XOPEN_SOURCE Paul. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL

Re: HEADSUP ATA support for newer SiS chipsets added

2001-12-04 Thread Paul Richards
out 524288 bytes transferred in 0.056482 secs (9282398 bytes/sec) root@lobster# atapci0: Intel ICH2 ATA100 controller port 0xb800-0xb80f at device 31.1 on pci0 ad0: 58644MB IBM-DTLA-307060 [119150/16/63] at ata0-master tagged UDMA100 Paul Richards FreeBSD Services Ltd http://www.freebsd

Re: Undefined symbol __stderrp

2001-09-29 Thread Paul Richards
to encourage more developers to run -current but we don't really want users to be running it. Paul Richards FreeBSD Services Ltd http://www.freebsd-services.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message

Re: /usr/games/wtf

2001-08-21 Thread Paul Richards
:~$wtf is pola POLA: principle of least astonishment husky:~$ I can't see any benefits to having this in the base system. Make it a port instead. Paul Richards FreeBSD Services Ltd To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message

Re: /usr/games/wtf

2001-08-21 Thread Paul Richards
. Neither will I :-) Paul Richards FreeBSD Services Ltd To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message

su, PAM and zsh

2001-05-09 Thread Paul Richards
There's a strange interaction between su, pam znd zsh. If you su to an account that has zsh as its shell and then hit ctrl-c it will kill the shell that you invoked su from. If you recompile su with -DNOPAM then the problems go away and this doesn't seem to happen with any other shells either.

Lots of interrupts!

2001-05-06 Thread Paul Richards
My dev box seems to be a bit sick and has been for a day or two. If anything disk intensive is taking place, and it seems to be particularly when gzipping/unzipping files, say when building mozilla during the extract step, things start to crawl and I'm seeing hundreds (500-1200) of interrupts a

Re: Fw: Stop annoying message of lnc

2001-03-18 Thread Paul Richards
Ian Dowse wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Mike Smith writes: I don't quite understand Paul's reasoning, though; it's not actually useful to unload/reload parts of a device's bus attachment without unloading/reloading all the downstream parts of the driver. What do you mean by the

Re: Ethernet entropy harvesting seriously pessimizes performance

2001-03-16 Thread Paul Richards
"Matthew N. Dodd" wrote: On Mon, 12 Mar 2001, Mark Murray wrote: Lots of security minded people what _all_ the interrupt entropy they can get, and this method gives them that while allowing others to throttle the harvester back. Lots of -CURRENT users want to be able to use their

Re: Patch for FILE problems (was Re: -CURRENT is bad for me...)

2001-02-15 Thread Paul Richards
David O'Brien wrote: We only bumped due to interface changes in the .MAJOR.MINOR days. The difference is *adding* an interface today does in cause a bump. In the .MAJOR.MINOR days it would require a bump the MINOR number. In both days, an incompatible change in an existing interface

Re: pkg_update

2001-02-14 Thread Paul Richards
Leif Neland wrote: On Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 08:23:35PM -0600, Michael C . Wu wrote: On Thu, Feb 08, 2001 at 01:56:11AM +0100, Leif Neland scribbled: | It seems pkg_update is only usable when installing from packages, not from | ports. Because it is a package update system. If

Re: pkg_update

2001-02-14 Thread Paul Richards
Will Andrews wrote: On Wed, Feb 14, 2001 at 03:10:14PM +, Paul Richards wrote: The problem is that 'make install' in a port doesn't check dependencies properly, whereas pkg_install does. Uh, actually, 'make install' does a better job. pkg_install has no clue about substitute

Re: Patch for FILE problems (was Re: -CURRENT is bad for me...)

2001-02-13 Thread Paul Richards
David O'Brien wrote: On Tue, Feb 13, 2001 at 04:24:00PM +, Paul RichardsF wrote: When we dropped minor numbers I had a worry that we'd run into one of Windows' greatest problems and we have. Applications that are developed and tested to work with a particular library might not work

Re: DPT SmartRAID V, VI, Adaptec SCSI RAID driver committed

2000-09-13 Thread Paul Richards
a good quote, maybe it should go in fortune. Paul Richards FreeBSD Services Ltd To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: Request for review/comments - new option for uname(1)

2000-08-25 Thread Paul Richards
Mark Ovens wrote: On Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 02:33:44PM -0400, Will Andrews wrote: On Wed, Aug 09, 2000 at 12:59:29AM +0100, Mark Ovens wrote: Is there any reason why this is unacceptable and could not be committed? Because it can be done with an awk/sed script? I'll forget about it

Re: make buildworld br0ken in libutil

2000-08-24 Thread Paul Richards
Mark Murray wrote: Why does crypt need to be in libc? Not even a significant fraction of applications need crypt? Goes for very many libc components. Quite a lot of userland needs libcrypt (not much as a proportion, but a non-insignificant number). This runs counter to my gut instinct

Re: Why no CDR ioctls for SCSI cds?

2000-08-23 Thread Paul Richards
"Kenneth D. Merry" wrote: On Tue, Aug 22, 2000 at 20:43:15 -0400, Laurence Berland wrote: On a vaguely related topic, after much searching I can't seem to see one way or the other if we can do a complete bit-by-bit copy of a cd with either cdrecord or burncd, though it's possible I'm

Re: Why no CDR ioctls for SCSI cds?

2000-08-23 Thread Paul Richards
Alexander Leidinger wrote: On 23 Aug, Paul Richards wrote: On a vaguely related topic, after much searching I can't seem to see one way or the other if we can do a complete bit-by-bit copy of a cd with either cdrecord or burncd, though it's possible I'm looking in the wrong place

Re: make buildworld br0ken in libutil

2000-08-22 Thread Paul Richards
Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven wrote: -On [2822 17:55], Ollivier Robert ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: According to Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven: Alternatively the sentiment just rose why we couldn't just collapse the crypt/hash functions of libcrypt into libc. It would make sense.

Re: Ugly, slow shutdown

2000-08-07 Thread Paul Richards
David Greenman wrote: Can you give a reason why we'll have to now start coding defensively because our arguments to tsleep() are just "advisory" now? It is not something we "suddenly have to do" it's been The Right Way even since I first sharpened my teeth on unix kernels many years ago.

Re: Ugly, slow shutdown

2000-08-07 Thread Paul Richards
David Greenman wrote: In the particular case of sleeping though, a woken process does need to check the condition that it slept on because one of the other processes sleeping on that resource may have had a chance to run first and changed some state. So as a general rule, you shouldn't

Re: Panic during boot under current

2000-06-11 Thread Paul Richards
Brian Somers wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Archie Cobbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes Brian Somers writes: Also (Mark sits beside me at work), is there anyone else out there that actually runs FreeBSD-current under VMWare (irrespective of the host OS) ? This problem has now

Re: Breaking build world costs $5? (was: Can we please have acurrent that compiles?)

2000-05-15 Thread Paul Richards
"Brian W. Buchanan" wrote: On Mon, 15 May 2000, Greg Lehey wrote: I see this money scheme as an extension of the "finger pointing" which does nothing to build team spirit. That depends very much on the way it's taken. At the moment, people take the pointy hat voluntarily, not

Re: SMP changes and breaking kld object module compatibility

2000-04-25 Thread Paul Richards
Bill Fumerola wrote: On Mon, Apr 24, 2000 at 04:46:43AM -0500, Richard Wackerbarth wrote: From the USER's perspective, anything that requires me to as much as reload a module/program that I have already installed "breaks" it. The fact that it is only necessary to recompile it in order

Re: SMP changes and breaking kld object module compatibility

2000-04-25 Thread Paul Richards
"Brandon D. Valentine" wrote: On Tue, 25 Apr 2000, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: Because if we do not provide a STABLE ABI, we WON'T get third-party (binary only) kernel modules. I'm very divided in this issue. 4.x has just started, and would be seriously impaired if no further improvements

Re: Stale modules (Re: panic in the morning)

2000-04-20 Thread Paul Richards
Warner Losh wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Alex Zepeda writes: : Perhaps it's time to implement some sort of versioning in the modules to : prevent them from being loaded into the incorrect kernel. In theory that sounds nice, but in -current the kernel ABI changes too quickly for

Re: Stale modules (Re: panic in the morning)

2000-04-20 Thread Paul Richards
Will Andrews wrote: On Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 11:56:08AM +0100, Paul Richards wrote: that rapid developer folks can disable it. ITYM "rabid". And I kinda resent that.. ;-) I really did mean rapid, as in those that are installing kernels every 10 mins to test changes. Though,

Re: FreeBSD Build status

2000-04-17 Thread Paul Richards
"Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: But does this also check the kernels ? It was my understanding that it only did world/release ? It only does the world/release (and it's the chrooted make release "world build" which is reported on, not the host system's BTW) but could easily add a kernel

Re: RSA library problems

2000-03-23 Thread Paul Richards
Kris Kennaway wrote: On Thu, 23 Mar 2000, Paul Richards wrote: Because the dlopen() of librsaintl.so fails. Ok, I give up :-) Why would that happen then ? I don't know :-) I stuck a dlerror() in there and the problem is usr/lib/librsaINTL.so: Undefined symbol "BN_mod_exp

Re: FreeBSD random I/O performance issues

2000-03-21 Thread Paul Richards
Richard Wendland wrote: I spent a bit of time analysing these results when I first saw them. I don't think it has anything to do with the cache, it has to do with how we write out blocks. One interesting observation is that for non sync, async or noclusterw mounts ~8750 I/O operations are

Re: Another current crash (cvs-cur.6183

2000-03-21 Thread Paul Richards
Stephen Hocking-Senior Programmer PGS SPS Perth wrote: cvs-cur.6183 appeared to fix the crash I reported under disk activity NFS but another one has reared its face, when using java with tya15 jit, running the Together java IDE. #0 boot (howto=256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:304 #1

Re: patches for test / review

2000-03-20 Thread Paul Richards
Alfred Perlstein wrote: * Poul-Henning Kamp [EMAIL PROTECTED] [000320 11:45] wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Alfred Perlstein writes: Keeping the currect cluster code is a bad idea, if the drivers were taught how to traverse the linked list in the buf struct rather than just

Re: MAX_UID ?

2000-03-14 Thread Paul Richards
Bruce Evans wrote: On Sun, 12 Mar 2000, John Polstra wrote: Sheesh, criticism isn't enough? Now it has to be constructive too? ;-) I guess it could go into machine/limits.h in the "!defined(_ANSI_SOURCE)" section. Bruce might have a better idea. Trying to draw some closure on this

Re: MAX_UID ?

2000-03-12 Thread Paul Richards
Giorgos Keramidas wrote: On Sun, Mar 12, 2000 at 05:59:09AM +, Paul Richards wrote: Are expressions like ((uid_t)0-1) portable/safe ? Maybe that's a better way of approaching this. To get the all-1's number, maybe it's better to use ((uid_t)~0), but that is a rather controversial

Re: MAX_UID ?

2000-03-12 Thread Paul Richards
Garrett Wollman wrote: On Mon, 13 Mar 2000 00:06:19 +, Paul Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: We could create a new include file that we use for constants that are related to FreeBSD specific types or we can agree on a coding style for performing bounds checking using tricks like

Re: MAX_UID ?

2000-03-12 Thread Paul Richards
John Polstra wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Paul Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They must not go into limits.h. That header file is defined by the ANSI/ISO C standard. The standard doesn't permit polluting the namespace with extra stuff. Umm, ok. I don't think our

Re: MAX_UID ?

2000-03-12 Thread Paul Richards
Peter Jeremy wrote: On 2000-Mar-13 12:01:03 +1100, Paul Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: id = strtoul(p, (char **)NULL, 10); if ((errno == ERANGE) || (id = UID_MAX)) { warnx("%s max uid value (%lu)", p, UID_MAX); return (0); } You can do this now.

Re: MAX_UID ?

2000-03-12 Thread Paul Richards
John Polstra wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Paul Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: John Polstra wrote: I guess it could go into machine/limits.h in the "!defined(_ANSI_SOURCE)" section. Bruce might have a better idea. I don't think machine/limits.h is the r

Re: MAX_UID ?

2000-03-12 Thread Paul Richards
Peter Jeremy wrote: On 2000-Mar-13 13:14:40 +1100, Paul Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: #define UID_MAX ((uid_t)0-1) ... I can see the flaw in that straight away in that uid_t isn't available in sys/syslimits.h Not a problem. C macros are just text expansions. The `uid_t' isn't

MAX_UID ?

2000-03-11 Thread Paul Richards
The fix I applied to pwd_mkdb is an improvement over what was there before i.e. nothing, but is a poor solution at the moment since it won't work correctly on the alpha. The following code snippet is OK on the i386 but on the alpha ULONG_MAX is 64 bits and so is a totally wrong constant to check

Re: MAX_UID ?

2000-03-11 Thread Paul Richards
John Polstra wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Paul Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think we need a MAX_UID and a MAX_GID to perform checks like this. Anyone got any objections to adding them to /usr/include/limits.h ? They must not go into limits.h. That header file

Re: The pw command

2000-03-10 Thread Paul Richards
Kris Kennaway wrote: On Fri, 10 Mar 2000, Paul Richards wrote: Non-root users can use the pw command to get information from the master.passwd file e.g. ps showuser paul paul:*:1000:1000::0:0: Richards:/home/paul:/usr/local/bin/bash % pw showuser kkenn kkenn:*:1000:0::0:0

The pw command

2000-03-09 Thread Paul Richards
Non-root users can use the pw command to get information from the master.passwd file e.g. ps showuser paul paul:*:1000:1000::0:0: Richards:/home/paul:/usr/local/bin/bash which shows the class, password expiry and account expiry. I'm not sure whether that's information that should be kept secure

Re: Crypto progress! (And a Biiiig TODO list)

2000-02-21 Thread Paul Richards
Mark Murray wrote: Mark Murray wrote: I'm very uncomfortable with requiring Yet Another Daemon to manage (and screw up) password checking. Generally speaking, if I wouldn't trust a program with root privileges, I wouldn't trust it with my password, either (for obvious

Re: feedback on CD install of 4.0-RC2

2000-02-21 Thread Paul Richards
Jonathan Lemon wrote: In article local.mail.freebsd-current/[EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: Kai Gro├čjohann wrote: "Jordan K. Hubbard" [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I really kinda wish you'd point them to Novice^H^H^H^H^HStandard instead since it does more than be a bit more verbose, it