delay for switch of current [was Re: [HEADSUP CFT] pkg 1.0rc1 and schedule]

2012-07-20 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
Hi, [...] The plan is to switch the ports tree to pkgng on CURRENT by default on July 25th No dates are planned yet for other branches. Note that there will be a NO_PKGNG knob for some time (undefined yet) for people not will to switch on July 25th [...] Because I won't have time

Re: [HEADSUP CFT] pkg 1.0rc1 and schedule

2012-07-16 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 16/07/2012 04:32, Peter Jeremy wrote: On 2012-Jul-12 10:01:10 +, Baptiste Daroussin b...@freebsd.org wrote: What is pkg --- pkg is a new package manager for FreeBSD. It is designed as a replacement for the pkg_* tools, and as a full featured binary package manager. A couple

Re: [HEADSUP CFT] pkg 1.0rc1 and schedule

2012-07-16 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 16/07/2012 05:22, Jeremy Messenger wrote: It's one of reason why I do not agree to remove the shared library version from the LIB_DEPENDS, so that way in future someone can add support in the package to check on shared library version then prevent package to install because it's not ABI

Re: [HEADSUP CFT] pkg 1.0rc1 and schedule

2012-07-16 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 2012-Jul-16 07:18:05 +0100, Matthew Seaman matt...@freebsd.org wrote: No. Parallel installs will not work -- the first to start will lock the DB, and the second won't be able to proceed. Good - it was the locking I was mostly concerned about. As long as the install is locked, it's safe to

Re: [HEADSUP CFT] pkg 1.0rc1 and schedule

2012-07-16 Thread Jeremy Messenger
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 2:24 AM, Matthew Seaman matt...@freebsd.org wrote: On 16/07/2012 05:22, Jeremy Messenger wrote: It's one of reason why I do not agree to remove the shared library version from the LIB_DEPENDS, so that way in future someone can add support in the package to check on

Re: [HEADSUP CFT] pkg 1.0rc1 and schedule

2012-07-15 Thread Kevin Oberman
On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 4:28 PM, Jason Helfman j...@freebsd.org wrote: On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Peter Wemm pe...@wemm.org wrote: On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 5:14 AM, Fbsd8 fb...@a1poweruser.com wrote: What I want to know is this new pkg system going to remove the requirement of having

Re: [HEADSUP CFT] pkg 1.0rc1 and schedule

2012-07-15 Thread Peter Jeremy
On 2012-Jul-12 10:01:10 +, Baptiste Daroussin b...@freebsd.org wrote: What is pkg --- pkg is a new package manager for FreeBSD. It is designed as a replacement for the pkg_* tools, and as a full featured binary package manager. A couple of specific questions that I haven't seen

Re: [HEADSUP CFT] pkg 1.0rc1 and schedule

2012-07-15 Thread Jeremy Messenger
On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 10:32 PM, Peter Jeremy pe...@rulingia.com wrote: On 2012-Jul-12 10:01:10 +, Baptiste Daroussin b...@freebsd.org wrote: What is pkg --- pkg is a new package manager for FreeBSD. It is designed as a replacement for the pkg_* tools, and as a full featured binary

Re: [HEADSUP CFT] pkg 1.0rc1 and schedule

2012-07-14 Thread Jason Helfman
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 1:41 PM, Peter Wemm pe...@wemm.org wrote: On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 5:14 AM, Fbsd8 fb...@a1poweruser.com wrote: What I want to know is this new pkg system going to remove the requirement of having the complete ports tree on my system? What I am looking for in an

Re: [HEADSUP CFT] pkg 1.0rc1 and schedule

2012-07-13 Thread Michael Ranner
Am 13.07.12 01:10, schrieb Doug Barton: On 07/12/2012 03:02 PM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 11:48:41AM -0700, Doug Barton wrote: I do not mean this e-mail to be in any way critical. I was told after the new OPTIONS framework discussion that I should have asked questions

Re: [HEADSUP CFT] pkg 1.0rc1 and schedule

2012-07-13 Thread Fbsd8
What I want to know is this new pkg system going to remove the requirement of having the complete ports tree on my system? What I am looking for in an port system, is to install a port and any files needed for the parent port and its dependents to automatically be downloaded. So in the end my

Re: [HEADSUP CFT] pkg 1.0rc1 and schedule

2012-07-13 Thread Michael Ranner
Am 13.07.12 14:14, schrieb Fbsd8: What I want to know is this new pkg system going to remove the requirement of having the complete ports tree on my system? What I am looking for in an port system, is to install a port and any files needed for the parent port and its dependents to

Re: [HEADSUP CFT] pkg 1.0rc1 and schedule

2012-07-13 Thread John Baldwin
On Thursday, July 12, 2012 5:16:41 pm Doug Barton wrote: On 07/12/2012 02:11 PM, Craig Rodrigues wrote: You might want to view Baptiste's pkgng presentation at BSDCan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Hxq7AHZ27I Sure, the next time I have an hour to spare. I don't think what I'm

Re: [HEADSUP CFT] pkg 1.0rc1 and schedule

2012-07-13 Thread Matthew Seaman
On 13/07/2012 13:14, Fbsd8 wrote: What I want to know is this new pkg system going to remove the requirement of having the complete ports tree on my system? What I am looking for in an port system, is to install a port and any files needed for the parent port and its dependents to

Re: [HEADSUP CFT] pkg 1.0rc1 and schedule

2012-07-13 Thread Bryan Drewery
On 7/13/2012 3:16 AM, Michael Ranner wrote: I was also a bit concerned and reserved to pkgng. But I am also in contact with some local FreeBSD ports committers and one of them (decke) told me some stories about pkgng and poudriere. I saw the talk from Beat G├Ątzi (beat) at EU BSD Day 2012 about

Re: [HEADSUP CFT] pkg 1.0rc1 and schedule

2012-07-13 Thread Doug Barton
On 07/13/2012 05:26 AM, John Baldwin wrote: On Thursday, July 12, 2012 5:16:41 pm Doug Barton wrote: On 07/12/2012 02:11 PM, Craig Rodrigues wrote: You might want to view Baptiste's pkgng presentation at BSDCan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Hxq7AHZ27I Sure, the next time I have an hour

Re: [HEADSUP CFT] pkg 1.0rc1 and schedule

2012-07-13 Thread Bryan Drewery
On 7/13/2012 10:36 AM, Doug Barton wrote: On 07/13/2012 05:26 AM, John Baldwin wrote: On Thursday, July 12, 2012 5:16:41 pm Doug Barton wrote: On 07/12/2012 02:11 PM, Craig Rodrigues wrote: You might want to view Baptiste's pkgng presentation at BSDCan:

Re: [HEADSUP CFT] pkg 1.0rc1 and schedule

2012-07-13 Thread Chris Rees
On 13 July 2012 17:02, Bryan Drewery br...@shatow.net wrote: On 7/13/2012 10:36 AM, Doug Barton wrote: On 07/13/2012 05:26 AM, John Baldwin wrote: On Thursday, July 12, 2012 5:16:41 pm Doug Barton wrote: On 07/12/2012 02:11 PM, Craig Rodrigues wrote: You might want to view Baptiste's pkgng

Re: [HEADSUP CFT] pkg 1.0rc1 and schedule

2012-07-13 Thread John Baldwin
On Friday, July 13, 2012 11:36:11 am Doug Barton wrote: Also, please keep in mind that I was criticized for *not* speaking up about the OPTIONS changes, now I'm being criticized *for* speaking up prior to pkg going live. In spite of the fact that I'm doing my best to (repeatedly) be clear that

Re: [HEADSUP CFT] pkg 1.0rc1 and schedule

2012-07-13 Thread Peter Wemm
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 5:14 AM, Fbsd8 fb...@a1poweruser.com wrote: What I want to know is this new pkg system going to remove the requirement of having the complete ports tree on my system? What I am looking for in an port system, is to install a port and any files needed for the parent port

[HEADSUP CFT] pkg 1.0rc1 and schedule

2012-07-12 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
Hi, On behalf of the pkgng team I'm really pleased to announce pkg 1.0 RC1 (aka pkgng) Only bug fixes will be accepted in the RC phase. What is pkg --- pkg is a new package manager for FreeBSD. It is designed as a replacement for the pkg_* tools, and as a full featured binary package

Re: [HEADSUP CFT] pkg 1.0rc1 and schedule

2012-07-12 Thread Alberto Villa
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Baptiste Daroussin b...@freebsd.org wrote: Third party tools - Tools supporting natively pkgng - ports-mgmt/portupgrade-devel (soon the main portupgrade will support) - ports-mgmt/pkg_cutleaves - ports-mgmt/poudriere -

Re: [HEADSUP CFT] pkg 1.0rc1 and schedule

2012-07-12 Thread Doug Barton
I do not mean this e-mail to be in any way critical. I was told after the new OPTIONS framework discussion that I should have asked questions before the change, so I'm asking these questions now; in a genuine attempt to get information. On 07/12/2012 03:01 AM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: In the

Re: [HEADSUP CFT] pkg 1.0rc1 and schedule

2012-07-12 Thread Garrett Wollman
In article 20120712100110.ga34...@ithaqua.etoilebsd.net, b...@freebsd.org writes: - puppet support: (https://github.com/xaque208/puppet-pkgng) I've actually already written one of these; it may be good to merge. Would whoever is working on this please raise your hand? -GAWollman -- Garrett

Re: [HEADSUP CFT] pkg 1.0rc1 and schedule

2012-07-12 Thread Craig Rodrigues
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Doug Barton do...@freebsd.org wrote: 1. What are the goals for pkg? 2. Why can't the existing tools fulfill those goals? 3. How does pkg fulfill them? Hi, You might want to view Baptiste's pkgng presentation at BSDCan:

Re: [HEADSUP CFT] pkg 1.0rc1 and schedule

2012-07-12 Thread Doug Barton
On 07/12/2012 02:11 PM, Craig Rodrigues wrote: You might want to view Baptiste's pkgng presentation at BSDCan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Hxq7AHZ27I Sure, the next time I have an hour to spare. I don't think what I'm asking for is unreasonable. One could even conclude that answering

Re: [HEADSUP CFT] pkg 1.0rc1 and schedule

2012-07-12 Thread Baptiste Daroussin
On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 11:48:41AM -0700, Doug Barton wrote: I do not mean this e-mail to be in any way critical. I was told after the new OPTIONS framework discussion that I should have asked questions before the change, so I'm asking these questions now; in a genuine attempt to get

Re: [HEADSUP CFT] pkg 1.0rc1 and schedule

2012-07-12 Thread Doug Barton
On 07/12/2012 03:02 PM, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 11:48:41AM -0700, Doug Barton wrote: I do not mean this e-mail to be in any way critical. I was told after the new OPTIONS framework discussion that I should have asked questions before the change, so I'm asking these