On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 10:23:04AM -0400, Alexander Kabaev wrote:
On Tue, 27 May 2003 07:20:17 -0700
Steve Kargl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 08:45:29AM -0400, Alexander Kabaev wrote:
On Tue, 27 May 2003 14:36:26 +0200
I and no doubt many others will insist on
On Tuesday, May 27, 2003, at 10:40AM, Alexander Kabaev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 27 May 2003 10:32:42 -0500
David Leimbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ugh... the network driver portion of the nforce drivers is *not*
GPL'd but it
has a linux only and anti-reverse engineeing clause.
Hello,
I cvsupped the source this morning and I get:
[...]
=== firewire/firewire
cc -O -pipe -march=pentium2 -D_KERNEL -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs
-Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual
-fformat-extensions -std=c99 -DKLD_MODULE -nostdinc
-Original Message-
From: Krzysztof Parzyszek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2003 11:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Buildkernel broken
Hello,
I cvsupped the source this morning and I get:
[...]
=== firewire/firewire
cc -O -pipe -march=pentium2
On Tue, 27 May 2003 10:49:40 -0500
David Leimbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tuesday, May 27, 2003, at 10:40AM, Alexander Kabaev [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Tue, 27 May 2003 10:32:42 -0500
David Leimbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ugh... the network driver portion of the nforce
Alexander Kabaev wrote:
Wilko Bulte [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, see for example the GPL_ed floating point emulator.
Aside: I thought the license had been changed on this?
I and no doubt many others will insist on keeping GPLed drivers out of
the tree. I have no objections for this drivers
.
Well, network driver is a special case as it is this weird binary
'kernel' + OS shim combination which is getting popular lately. Have you
thought about getting NVidia's permission to link non-GPLed shims with
their binary object?
I have thought about it... but don't know enough to pursue it
Remember that's it's legal to to distribute seperate binaries,
as long as you comply with the GPL for the GPL'ed binary, but
it's a violation of clause 6(b) of the GPL to combine them
into one binary and distribute them, if you are legally
obligated to not give out the source code for the
Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 12:17:18 -0400
From: Will Saxon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I cvsupped the source this morning and I get:
[...]
=== firewire/firewire
...
In file included from /usr/src/sys/dev/firewire/fwohci.c:72:
@/dev/firewire/fwdma.h:38: redefinition of `bus_dmasync_op_t'
My Notebook (Toshiba Satellite 1110) does not have
serial ports, so I wanted to connect a serial adapter.
The adapter is recognized (see below), but I can't access
any of the serial ports:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] minicom
minicom: cannot open /dev/ucom0: Device not configured
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL
On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 07:43:15AM -0500, David Leimbach wrote:
However the idea is that all GPL infected stuff be isolated, allowing a
fully working kernel without GPL stuff in there.
Sounds like a kernel module is the way to go then. Perhaps it could
exist in the ports tree instead of the
On Tuesday, May 27, 2003, at 01:40PM, David O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 07:43:15AM -0500, David Leimbach wrote:
However the idea is that all GPL infected stuff be isolated, allowing a
fully working kernel without GPL stuff in there.
Sounds like a kernel module
On Tuesday, May 27, 2003, at 01:40PM, David O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 07:43:15AM -0500, David Leimbach wrote:
However the idea is that all GPL infected stuff be isolated, allowing a
fully working kernel without GPL stuff in there.
Sounds like a kernel module
On Tuesday, May 27, 2003, at 01:40PM, David O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 07:43:15AM -0500, David Leimbach wrote:
However the idea is that all GPL infected stuff be isolated, allowing a
fully working kernel without GPL stuff in there.
Sounds like a kernel module
On Tuesday, May 27, 2003, at 01:40PM, David O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 07:43:15AM -0500, David Leimbach wrote:
However the idea is that all GPL infected stuff be isolated, allowing a
fully working kernel without GPL stuff in there.
Sounds like a kernel module
On Tuesday, May 27, 2003, at 01:40PM, David O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 07:43:15AM -0500, David Leimbach wrote:
However the idea is that all GPL infected stuff be isolated, allowing a
fully working kernel without GPL stuff in there.
Sounds like a kernel module
On Tuesday, May 27, 2003, at 01:40PM, David O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 07:43:15AM -0500, David Leimbach wrote:
However the idea is that all GPL infected stuff be isolated, allowing a
fully working kernel without GPL stuff in there.
Sounds like a kernel module
On Tuesday, May 27, 2003, at 01:40PM, David O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 07:43:15AM -0500, David Leimbach wrote:
However the idea is that all GPL infected stuff be isolated, allowing a
fully working kernel without GPL stuff in there.
Sounds like a kernel module
I don't know what the hell happened but it won't happen again as I am now vowing to
avoid using the Safari, .mac webmail combination.
For some reason it kept coming back with no server response and giving me no
confirmation
that the mail was ever sent via webmail... I just retried a few times
On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 08:38:51PM +0200, Richard Kaestner wrote:
My Notebook (Toshiba Satellite 1110) does not have
serial ports, so I wanted to connect a serial adapter.
The adapter is recognized (see below), but I can't access
any of the serial ports:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] minicom
cc -c -O -pipe -march=athlon -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs
-Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual
-fformat-extensions -std=c99 -g -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/dev
-I/usr/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica
Roberto Nunnari [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
What is interesting is that with 4.7-Stable the faulty timer was
handled correctly (or correctly ignored)..
That's because 4.7 incorrectly fails to use ACPI to configure the
system. As a result, 4.7 is unusable on newer laptops (which no
longer support
All,
As noted below, the release engineering team has decided to delay the
RELENG_5_1 branch by three days in order to allow time for a few more
items on the TODO list to be addressed. We apologize for the slip,
but feel that it is neccessary to make 5.1 be a good release.
The Release
JFYI, there seems to be a bug in Perl 5.6.1 (which is what's installed
on the -CURRENT tinderbox machine) which causes the entire process to
bomb when a build fails and it tries to mail out the report. Failure
reports (there have been a couple lately) won't be mailed out until
this is fixed.
On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 11:05:03PM +0200, Mark Santcroos wrote:
The same here, that's what I mentioned earlier, that I need to investigate
this. Hope to have that fixed before 'de haan kraait' tomorrow morning ;-)
Can you send me your whole asl, I'm curious how close it is to mine.
Hrm, a bit
On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 10:28:32PM +0200, Mark Santcroos wrote:
On Thu, May 22, 2003 at 11:05:03PM +0200, Mark Santcroos wrote:
The same here, that's what I mentioned earlier, that I need to investigate
this. Hope to have that fixed before 'de haan kraait' tomorrow morning ;-)
Can you send
I have committed changes to nsalloc.c and dsmethod.c. Please cvsup and
test ACPI, especially if you had problems with it (that were not present
before 0228 was imported).
Commit message follows:
Fix false AE_NOT_FOUND messages, reported in NetBSD port-i386/20897.
NetBSD dsmethod.c rev 1.7
Fix
On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 10:55:11PM +0200, Stijn Hoop wrote:
On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 10:28:32PM +0200, Mark Santcroos wrote:
With a stock kernel and patched dsdt I have a fully working system again.
All Dell laptop users with problems might want to give this a look as at
least Stijn's
On Mon, 2003-05-26 at 17:51, Mike Makonnen wrote:
Most major locking work in libthr is finished. I believe it is stable enough now
that it can be used for most applications[1]. I would appreciate it if people
would try it out and report any bugs.
Just installed a freshly cvsup-ped current and
Subject: HEADSUP: acpi patches in the tree,
On Tue, 27 May 2003 14:06:50 -0700 (PDT), Nate Lawson wrote:
I have committed changes to nsalloc.c and dsmethod.c. Please cvsup and
test ACPI, especially if you had problems with it (that were not present
before 0228 was imported).
After this
Hi!
I just got the below LOR on:
FreeBSD lap.snicki.dk 5.1-BETA FreeBSD 5.1-BETA #49: Tue May 27 22:28:31 CEST
2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/LAP i386
sources from about half an hour before the kernel build.
lock order reversal
1st 0xc5fd3378 vm object (vm object) @
David Leimbach wrote:
On Tuesday, May 27, 2003, at 10:40AM, Alexander Kabaev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 27 May 2003 10:32:42 -0500
David Leimbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ugh... the network driver portion of the nforce drivers is *not*
GPL'd but it
has a linux only and anti-reverse
I feel your pain, my thinkpad doesn't co-operate with 5.1 either...
ajt.
On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 11:10:26AM -0400, Mikhail Kruk wrote:
Hello,
I've seen this reported before, but don't see a resolution. Maybe my
logs will help solve the problem.
When my Gateway laptop boots, I get a couple
On Wed, May 28, 2003 at 12:21:21AM +0200, Dennis Kristensen wrote:
Hi!
I just got the below LOR on:
FreeBSD lap.snicki.dk 5.1-BETA FreeBSD 5.1-BETA #49: Tue May 27 22:28:31 CEST
2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/LAP i386
sources from about half an hour before the kernel
Running `quickcam' twice from:
http://people.freebsd.org/~jmallett/qce-freebsd.tgz
Yields the following loveliness:
%%%
Script started on Tue May 27 17:59:35 2003
([EMAIL PROTECTED]:~)1% gdb -k /boot/kernel/kernel vmcore.0
GNU gdb 5.2.1 (FreeBSD)
Copyright 2002 Free Software
Hello all.
I just finished rebuilding -Current as of about 6:45pm EST and have now
noticed the following on boot:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]/home/jmw: uname -a
FreeBSD neuro.charter.net 5.1-BETA FreeBSD 5.1-BETA #2: Tue May 27 18:39:04 EST
2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GEN i386
[EMAIL
On Tuesday 27 May 2003 08:43, David Leimbach wrote:
On Tuesday, May 27, 2003, at 07:36 AM, Wilko Bulte wrote:
On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 02:35:41PM +0200, Stijn Hoop wrote:
On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 07:28:29AM -0500, David Leimbach wrote:
I have the GPLd source to the nforce drivers for Linux
David Leimbach [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Ugh... the network driver portion of the nforce drivers is *not* GPL'd but it
has a linux only and anti-reverse engineeing clause.
...which is null and void in countries with proper IP laws, such as
Norway.
DES
--
Dag-Erling Smorgrav - [EMAIL
On Wed, 28 May 2003, Shin-ichi YOSHIMOTO wrote:
After this update, I found some error messages like this:
acpi0: IntelR AWRDACPI on motherboard
ACPI-0438: *** Error: Looking up [\\_OS_] in namespace, AE_NOT_FOUND
ACPI-1287: *** Error: Method execution failed [\\_SB_.PCI0._INI] (Node
On Tue, 27 May 2003, Nate Lawson wrote:
On Wed, 28 May 2003, Shin-ichi YOSHIMOTO wrote:
After this update, I found some error messages like this:
acpi0: IntelR AWRDACPI on motherboard
ACPI-0438: *** Error: Looking up [\\_OS_] in namespace, AE_NOT_FOUND
ACPI-1287: *** Error:
Subject: Re: HEADSUP: acpi patches in the tree,
Please try the attached patch and see if it changes things for you.
OK. I tried youre patch. Error messages is gone :-) Thanks !
acpi0: IntelR AWRDACPI on motherboard
pcibios: BIOS version 2.10
Using $PIR table, 7 entries at 0xc00fdee0
acpi0:
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1
On Wednesday 28 May 2003 00:06 am, Juli Mallett wrote:
Running `quickcam' twice from:
http://people.freebsd.org/~jmallett/qce-freebsd.tgz
Yields the following loveliness:
[..]
This is the same issue another person (Mark Blackman) is
On Wed, 28 May 2003, Shin-ichi YOSHIMOTO wrote:
Subject: Re: HEADSUP: acpi patches in the tree,
Please try the attached patch and see if it changes things for you.
OK. I tried youre patch. Error messages is gone :-) Thanks !
Please respond to my other email as well. Without that patch, do
Subject: Re: [acpi-jp 2269] Re: HEADSUP: acpi patches in the tree,
On Tue, 27 May 2003 17:56:47 -0700 (PDT), Nate Lawson wrote:
Please respond to my other email as well. Without that patch, do you have
problems or is it just the error message?
Oh, sorry. Without that patch, no problems. It's
On Tue, 27 May 2003 21:46:04 +0900, TOMITA Yoshinori
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
T Hello all,
T After cvsup-ed today 2003-5-27 and make buildworld and so on,
T NIS passwd database are completely ignored.
T But NIS group database seems to be used as usual.
T Out NIS server is actually NIS+ in YP
On Tue, 27 May 2003 22:13, David Leimbach wrote:
However the idea is that all GPL infected stuff be isolated, allowing a
fully working kernel without GPL stuff in there.
Sounds like a kernel module is the way to go then. Perhaps it could
exist in the ports tree instead of the mainline
I have been burnt by this in the past also. I think that it would be
useful if you could allow kernel modules to be bound to a particular
kernel version/date/whatever, and have external modules refuse to load
and/or complain if the kernel is upgraded. This should prevent
unnecessary kernel panics
Q wrote:
I have been burnt by this in the past also. I think that it would be
useful if you could allow kernel modules to be bound to a particular
kernel version/date/whatever, and have external modules refuse to load
and/or complain if the kernel is upgraded. This should prevent
unnecessary
Don't overreact. I'm not suggesting taking the linux approach of
versioning every module. But rather allowing the loader or a module
(most likely a 3rd part or from a port) the ability to make a decision
based on some internal revision/date based version as to whether it is
safe to proceed to
Q wrote:
Don't overreact.
Heh. I live this hell every day with Linux in my day job.
I'm not suggesting taking the linux approach of
versioning every module. But rather allowing the loader or a module
(most likely a 3rd part or from a port) the ability to make a decision
based on some internal
* Scott Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] [030527 23:51]:
I am thinking of ports like rtc, ltmdm or Vmware here.. where it is not
uncommon that they require reinstalling after an upgrade. I have
experienced kernel panics on several occasions from out of date vmware
kernel modules.
I'm really of the
On Wed, 28 May 2003 13:17, Scott Long wrote:
I am thinking of ports like rtc, ltmdm or Vmware here.. where it is not
uncommon that they require reinstalling after an upgrade. I have
experienced kernel panics on several occasions from out of date vmware
kernel modules.
I'm really of the
You could achieve the same result without breaking a bunch of cardinal
rules by taking an MD5 hash of the kernel when the port is first
installed, then modify the rc.d script that loads the module to only run
if that MD5 hash matches the current kernel. If a mismatch occurs it
should spew out an
Q wrote:
You could achieve the same result without breaking a bunch of cardinal
rules by taking an MD5 hash of the kernel when the port is first
installed, then modify the rc.d script that loads the module to only run
if that MD5 hash matches the current kernel. If a mismatch occurs it
should spew
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Does you r
Hi, there!
On Wednesday 28 May 2003 08:25, Scott Long wrote:
SL Don't forget that some modules need to be loaded at boot time. Also, if
SL I recompile my kernel to trim down an unused driver, the MD5 will
SL change.
It'll change even if you do not mess with the configuration at all: the
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Daniel O'Connor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
: The only downside is that there are no hooks into the build process so you
: have to be VERY careful when you update your kernel, or you get panics :(
This is true. I'd thought that MODULES_OVERRIDE would
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Daniel O'Connor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
: Maybe the kernel build stuff can look in /usr/local/src/sys/modules for things
: to build or something..
YUCK!
Warner
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On Tuesday 27 May 2003 07:58 pm, Nate Lawson wrote:
On Wed, 28 May 2003, Shin-ichi YOSHIMOTO wrote:
After this update, I found some error messages like this:
acpi0: IntelR AWRDACPI on motherboard
ACPI-0438: *** Error: Looking up [\\_OS_] in namespace, AE_NOT_FOUND
ACPI-1287: ***
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Alexey Neyman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
: I'd rather see something like
: PORTS_KMODS=audio/aureal-kmod xxx/yyy
: knob in the /etc/make.conf
Funny, I had similar thoughts before seeing your patch. Here's my
latest patch. You could put it in
On Wed, 28 May 2003 14:41, M. Warner Losh wrote:
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Daniel O'Connor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
: Maybe the kernel build stuff can look in /usr/local/src/sys/modules for
: things to build or something..
YUCK!
*WHY?*
I have asked this before BTW, and I
Yes, I'm aware of the implications.. I was merely proposing a ports
legal way of achieving the same result that Mike put forward without
stuffing a foreign module into /boot. Although, like I said, this is not
really a long term solution to the problem.
All the port's originating kernel modules I
David Leimbach wrote:
IANAL but I think the GPL has provisions for binaries that contain code that is
not necessarily dependant but merely aggregated into one package.
Linking is not mere agregation. If you can cite the section
of the GPL you are talking about, it would be useful (this is
a
On Wed, 28 May 2003 14:22, M. Warner Losh wrote:
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Daniel O'Connor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
: The only downside is that there are no hooks into the build process so
: you have to be VERY careful when you update your kernel, or you get
: panics :(
By doing that aren't you assuming that the kernel will be installed on
the machine that built it, and not potentially somewhere else? What
about sysinstall upgrades that don't require src?
Seeya...Q
On Wed, 2003-05-28 at 15:17, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
On Wed, 28 May 2003 14:41, M. Warner Losh
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