Re: Memory Mangement Problem in 5.1-RELEASE

2003-07-26 Thread Terry Lambert
Shawn wrote: On Fri, 2003-07-25 at 02:21, Terry Lambert wrote: You probably can't get away with the old gcc, since the binary format changed For No Good Reason(tm). Didn't the GNU people say they had to change it to be more ABI compliant with the 'standard'? I will believe that when they

Re: fuword(), suword(), etc.

2003-07-26 Thread Terry Lambert
Shawn wrote: On Fri, 2003-07-25 at 01:42, Terry Lambert wrote: I do know that even if they remove the bridge, they are unlikely to provide enough documentation to boot and run natively on the hardware without having IBM code setting up the bus arbitration and other bits that are currently

Re: Memory Mangement Problem in 5.1-RELEASE

2003-07-26 Thread Terry Lambert
Ahmed Al-Hindawi wrote: It is simply swapping when it shouldn't. Opening Mozilla, Opera, Netscape, DrJava, jEdit, Emacs, PrBoom, XBubbles, and Nautilus at the same time on a 233Mhz machine should fill up the memory (160Mb) but instead it has decided to use the swap disk for a measly 50Mb

[current tinderbox] failure on amd64/amd64

2003-07-26 Thread Tinderbox
TB --- 2003-07-26 05:34:55 - starting CURRENT tinderbox run for amd64/amd64 TB --- 2003-07-26 05:34:55 - checking out the source tree TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/amd64/amd64 TB --- /usr/bin/cvs -f -R -q -d/home/ncvs update -Pd -A src TB --- 2003-07-26 05:36:55 - building world TB --- cd

Re: fuword(), suword(), etc.

2003-07-26 Thread Julian Elischer
geeze terry would you mind unhijacking this topic? The topic is Should we have an suptr() and fuptr() to match suword() and fuword()? On Fri, 25 Jul 2003, Terry Lambert wrote: [tonnes of absolutly irrelevant stuff] ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing

Re: Memory Mangement Problem in 5.1-RELEASE

2003-07-26 Thread Terry Lambert
Ahmed Al-Hindawi wrote: dude, I have a third of my memory free!! Dude, there's a difference between free and available. Dude, what makes you think that the swap in use doesn't refer to pages that are also in main memory, but marked clean because they've already been written to a backing store,

make libstdc++ error

2003-07-26 Thread Suken Woo
after cvsup'd from 5.0R to 5.1R and get error at installworld thx any info. c++ -O -pipe -mcpu=pentiumpro -DIN_GLIBCPP_V3 -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I/usr/src/gnu/lib/libstdc++ -I/usr/src/gnu/lib/libstdc++/../../../contrib/libstdc++/libsupc++ -I/usr/src/gnu/lib/libstdc++/../../../contrib/gcc

Re: fuword(), suword(), etc.

2003-07-26 Thread Terry Lambert
Julian Elischer wrote: geeze terry would you mind unhijacking this topic? The topic is Should we have an suptr() and fuptr() to match suword() and fuword()? I'm not the one who posted the question without changing the subject line; please read the thread history. In answer to your

Re: We have ath, now what about Broadcom?

2003-07-26 Thread Doug White
On Fri, 25 Jul 2003, M. Warner Losh wrote: : Can they now take they took relevant steps as a defence in a law court? That's a very interesting question. Which might get answered since some industrious folks aligned with a certain other open source operating system are in the process of

Re: Memory Mangement Problem in 5.1-RELEASE

2003-07-26 Thread Ahmed Al-Hindawi
If your system is spending a lot of time moving data to and from swap when it is not memory-starved, or if it is stalling memory allocations that it should be able to fulfill from free RAM, that's a concern. That is exactly it. I emphaises th words when it is not memory-starved . It isn't

Mapping Video BIOS?

2003-07-26 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
I've spent the last couple of days tracking down a problem starting X on a Dell Inspiron 5100. I've got as far as discovering that the video BIOS is not being completely mapped: it's 60 kB long, but only 48 kB are being mapped into memory. To make matters worse, the machine doesn't have a serial

Re: Memory Mangement Problem in 5.1-RELEASE

2003-07-26 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ahmed Al-Hindawi writes : If your system is spending a lot of time moving data to and from swap when it is not memory-starved, or if it is stalling memory allocations that it should be able to fulfill from free RAM, that's a concern. That is exactly it. I emphaises

[current tinderbox] failure on i386/i386

2003-07-26 Thread Tinderbox
TB --- 2003-07-26 06:37:48 - starting CURRENT tinderbox run for i386/i386 TB --- 2003-07-26 06:37:48 - checking out the source tree TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/i386/i386 TB --- /usr/bin/cvs -f -R -q -d/home/ncvs update -Pd -A src TB --- 2003-07-26 06:39:54 - building world TB --- cd

Re: fuword(), suword(), etc.

2003-07-26 Thread Marcel Moolenaar
On Sat, Jul 26, 2003 at 12:08:29AM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: In answer to your question, my answer is still: How do you intend to deal with 32 and 64 bit address spaces on the same machine, if all you have is one function for the copyin and one for the copyout?. Or is there no

Re: Mapping Video BIOS?

2003-07-26 Thread Bruce M Simpson
On Sat, Jul 26, 2003 at 05:32:17PM +0930, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: Can anybody point me in the right direction? Where should I be looking for this? Is this memory mapped permanently, or is it only during X startup? The video BIOS is usually mapped by system BIOS into real memory to begin

Re: Mapping Video BIOS?

2003-07-26 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Saturday, 26 July 2003 at 9:41:14 +0100, Bruce M Simpson wrote: On Sat, Jul 26, 2003 at 05:32:17PM +0930, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: Can anybody point me in the right direction? Where should I be looking for this? Is this memory mapped permanently, or is it only during X startup? The

[current tinderbox] failure on i386/pc98

2003-07-26 Thread Tinderbox
TB --- 2003-07-26 08:07:23 - starting CURRENT tinderbox run for i386/pc98 TB --- 2003-07-26 08:07:23 - checking out the source tree TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/i386/pc98 TB --- /usr/bin/cvs -f -R -q -d/home/ncvs update -Pd -A src TB --- 2003-07-26 08:12:23 - building world TB --- cd

[current tinderbox] failure on ia64/ia64

2003-07-26 Thread Tinderbox
TB --- 2003-07-26 09:35:30 - starting CURRENT tinderbox run for ia64/ia64 TB --- 2003-07-26 09:35:30 - checking out the source tree TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/ia64/ia64 TB --- /usr/bin/cvs -f -R -q -d/home/ncvs update -Pd -A src TB --- 2003-07-26 09:38:05 - building world TB --- cd

gcc ABI compliance (was: Re: Memory Mangement Problem in5.1-RELEASE)

2003-07-26 Thread Alexander Leidinger
On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 23:22:00 -0700 Terry Lambert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Didn't the GNU people say they had to change it to be more ABI compliant with the 'standard'? I will believe that when they upgrade their FORTRAN compiler to be more compliant with 'the standard'. Some standards

Re: gcc related -current upgrade problems

2003-07-26 Thread Thierry Herbelot
Le Saturday 26 July 2003 00:46, John a écrit : . /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/freebsd-native.h:62:25: attempt to use poisoned malloc /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/freebsd-native.h:63:25: attempt to use poisoned calloc /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/freebsd-native.h:64:25: attempt to

Re: LiveCD FBSD Current

2003-07-26 Thread Sebastian Yepes [ESN]
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 09:57:04PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Sat, Jul 26, 2003 at 06:31:03AM +0200, Sebastian Yepes [ESN] wrote: Hi all I have made a liveCD of FreeBSD Current and it boot's and looks like it run ok.. The only problem i am haveing is with the md system.. it

Re: LiveCD FBSD Current

2003-07-26 Thread Sebastian Yepes [ESN]
On Sat, Jul 26, 2003 at 09:32:40PM +1000, Mark Sergeant wrote: On Sat, 2003-07-26 at 21:09, Sebastian Yepes [ESN] wrote: On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 09:57:04PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: On Sat, Jul 26, 2003 at 06:31:03AM +0200, Sebastian Yepes [ESN] wrote: Hi all I have made

[current tinderbox] failure on sparc64/sparc64

2003-07-26 Thread Tinderbox
TB --- 2003-07-26 10:52:27 - starting CURRENT tinderbox run for sparc64/sparc64 TB --- 2003-07-26 10:52:27 - checking out the source tree TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/sparc64/sparc64 TB --- /usr/bin/cvs -f -R -q -d/home/ncvs update -Pd -A src TB --- 2003-07-26 10:54:34 - building world TB

Re: Memory Mangement Problem in 5.1-RELEASE

2003-07-26 Thread Ahmed Al-Hindawi
thanks for all the help guys, I appreciate it. And sorry for using the word dude; I got a little agitated because people always expact them selves to be superior than youself because you are the one asking the question and they are answering!! Thanks anyway

Disabling ISAPNP in -CURRENT

2003-07-26 Thread Bruce M Simpson
Hi, Is there any way to disable ISAPNP from probing in -CURRENT short of writing a patch to do so? It is causing some delay when booting Bochs. Thanks BMS ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To

Re: We have ath, now what about Broadcom?

2003-07-26 Thread Wesley Morgan
On Sat, 26 Jul 2003, Doug White wrote: On Fri, 25 Jul 2003, M. Warner Losh wrote: : Can they now take they took relevant steps as a defence in a law court? That's a very interesting question. Which might get answered since some industrious folks aligned with a certain other open source

buildworld fails on FreeBSD5.0/i386

2003-07-26 Thread PieterB
Hi, I'm trying to upgrade my FreeBSD5.0 server to FreeBSD current. My make buildworld fails with the current CVS checkout during stage 3: cross tools. I use a GENERIC kernel on i386 and I followed the procedure as described in the FreeBSD handbook. Can anybody give me a clue how to fix this? Is

Re: We have ath, now what about Broadcom?

2003-07-26 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wesley Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : On Sat, 26 Jul 2003, Doug White wrote: : : On Fri, 25 Jul 2003, M. Warner Losh wrote: : : : Can they now take they took relevant steps as a defence in a law court? : : That's a very interesting question. :

Re: Memory Mangement Problem in 5.1-RELEASE

2003-07-26 Thread Steve Kargl
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 11:22:00PM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: Shawn wrote: On Fri, 2003-07-25 at 02:21, Terry Lambert wrote: You probably can't get away with the old gcc, since the binary format changed For No Good Reason(tm). Didn't the GNU people say they had to change it to be

Re: We have ath, now what about Broadcom?

2003-07-26 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] M. Warner Losh [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : The reason I keep saying that is that nobody knows for sure. Nobody : has reverse engineered anything, got sued and won (or lost). Just However, there are one or two cases that are close to relevant working

[current tinderbox] failure on alpha/alpha

2003-07-26 Thread Tinderbox
TB --- 2003-07-26 16:00:01 - starting CURRENT tinderbox run for alpha/alpha TB --- 2003-07-26 16:00:01 - checking out the source tree TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha TB --- /usr/bin/cvs -f -R -q -d/home/ncvs update -Pd -A src TB --- 2003-07-26 16:02:27 - building world TB --- cd

Re: Mapping Video BIOS?

2003-07-26 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : machine doesn't have a serial port, so I can't apply a kernel debugger : to find out what's going on. Does it have a firewire port? Warner ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED]

5.1-RELEASE can't find SIL 0680 IDE controller

2003-07-26 Thread David Marolleau
hello my name is David a i read your message with interest because i have a mandrake linux distribution who don't want to be installed with my sil 0680 PCI card and i don't know if it exists a driver for this one can you say me how you can make boot your system under linux with your card, please

[current tinderbox] failure on amd64/amd64

2003-07-26 Thread Tinderbox
TB --- 2003-07-26 17:22:27 - starting CURRENT tinderbox run for amd64/amd64 TB --- 2003-07-26 17:22:27 - checking out the source tree TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/amd64/amd64 TB --- /usr/bin/cvs -f -R -q -d/home/ncvs update -Pd -A src TB --- 2003-07-26 17:24:28 - building world TB --- cd

Re: Vim: Caught deadly signal BUS (after -current update with newgcc)

2003-07-26 Thread Jeremy Messenger
Now, it has been fixed today with the new 6.2.040 patch. Cheers, Mezz On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 13:24:30 -0500, Jeremy Messenger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 18 Jul 2003 19:36:50 +0200, Matthias Schuendehuette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 17 July 2003 08:14, David O'Brien wrote: I'm

[current tinderbox] failure on i386/i386

2003-07-26 Thread Tinderbox
TB --- 2003-07-26 18:24:57 - starting CURRENT tinderbox run for i386/i386 TB --- 2003-07-26 18:24:57 - checking out the source tree TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/i386/i386 TB --- /usr/bin/cvs -f -R -q -d/home/ncvs update -Pd -A src TB --- 2003-07-26 18:26:55 - building world TB --- cd

device driver memory leak in 5.1-20030726?

2003-07-26 Thread Mark Blackman
Hi all, I'm seeing the same 'kmem_malloc(4096): kmem_map too small: X total allocated' messages that a few other have reported. Now, I understand that setting kern.vm.kmem.size larger is supposed to help, but I'm using a 128M Celeron-650 i386 system with no unusual devices (expect perhaps a

5.1 and Pervasive SQL in Linux Emu (7) - tty stopped output

2003-07-26 Thread Karl M. Joch
the following script starts psql without problems on 4.8 with linux base 6. with 5.1 and linux base 7 it looks like su hangs. scripts doenst complete and ends with tty output stopped. there is also something very strange: when starting pervasive in forground mode i get a listener and it works.

Re: device driver memory leak in 5.1-20030726?

2003-07-26 Thread Mark Blackman
A backtrace: (where and where full) for those who can decipher them uma_core.c seems to have been the trigger. (kgdb) where #0 doadump () at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:240 #1 0xc032cc4c in boot (howto=260) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:372 #2 0xc032cfd7 in panic () at

Re: device driver memory leak in 5.1-20030726?

2003-07-26 Thread Gary Jennejohn
Mark Blackman writes: I'm seeing the same 'kmem_malloc(4096): kmem_map too small: X total allocated' messages that a few other have reported. [snip] From these symptoms, I'm speculating that one or more device drivers are producing kernel memory leaks and either triggering the

Loading 5.x onto a laptop

2003-07-26 Thread Dave Johnson
Hi Has anyone manage to load ver 5.x into the Compaq Presario 1370 notebook. I get kernel panic all the time Regards ___ [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-current To unsubscribe, send any mail to [EMAIL

[current tinderbox] failure on i386/pc98

2003-07-26 Thread Tinderbox
TB --- 2003-07-26 19:57:59 - starting CURRENT tinderbox run for i386/pc98 TB --- 2003-07-26 19:57:59 - checking out the source tree TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/i386/pc98 TB --- /usr/bin/cvs -f -R -q -d/home/ncvs update -Pd -A src TB --- 2003-07-26 20:01:00 - building world TB --- cd

Re: Loading 5.x onto a laptop

2003-07-26 Thread Bosko Milekic
On Sat, Jul 26, 2003 at 09:18:01PM +, Dave Johnson wrote: Hi Has anyone manage to load ver 5.x into the Compaq Presario 1370 notebook. I get kernel panic all the time Regards Yes. -- Bosko Milekic * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * [EMAIL PROTECTED] TECHNOkRATIS Consulting Services *

Re: Memory Mangement Problem in 5.1-RELEASE

2003-07-26 Thread John-Mark Gurney
Poul-Henning Kamp wrote this message on Sat, Jul 26, 2003 at 10:04 +0200: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ahmed Al-Hindawi writes Programs like cp(1) uses mmap(2) to copy things, so if you cp(1) a big file, it is not uncommon for some programs to end up on swap. Until they Only for files up to

[current tinderbox] failure on sparc64/sparc64

2003-07-26 Thread Tinderbox
TB --- 2003-07-26 22:56:58 - starting CURRENT tinderbox run for sparc64/sparc64 TB --- 2003-07-26 22:56:58 - checking out the source tree TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/sparc64/sparc64 TB --- /usr/bin/cvs -f -R -q -d/home/ncvs update -Pd -A src TB --- 2003-07-26 22:58:54 - building world TB

Re: Mapping Video BIOS?

2003-07-26 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Saturday, 26 July 2003 at 11:27:06 -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote: In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: machine doesn't have a serial port, so I can't apply a kernel debugger to find out what's going on. Does it have a firewire port? Yes.

Re: Mapping Video BIOS?

2003-07-26 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : On Saturday, 26 July 2003 at 11:27:06 -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote: : In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : machine doesn't have a serial port, so I

MD5 signatures of 5.1-RELEASE

2003-07-26 Thread Dan Pelleg
I'm getting a wrong MD5 signature when downloading the miniinst image from ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-i386/5.1 Also, and this is really weird, the file sizes I see on a web browser are different than what I get with a FTP client. Yes, I realize this is a FTP URL but still,

Re: Mapping Video BIOS?

2003-07-26 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Saturday, 26 July 2003 at 18:44:43 -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote: In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Saturday, 26 July 2003 at 11:27:06 -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote: In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL

Re: MD5 signatures of 5.1-RELEASE

2003-07-26 Thread Dan Pelleg
Dan Pelleg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm getting a wrong MD5 signature when downloading the miniinst image from ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ISO-IMAGES-i386/5.1 Sorry, false alarm. This is just the plain-ol' ASCII transfer nonsense. I did not expect fetch to trip me like this. Sorry

Re: Mapping Video BIOS?

2003-07-26 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : On Saturday, 26 July 2003 at 18:44:43 -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote: : In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : On Saturday, 26 July 2003 at 11:27:06 -0600,

Re: Mapping Video BIOS?

2003-07-26 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Saturday, 26 July 2003 at 19:47:50 -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote: In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Saturday, 26 July 2003 at 18:44:43 -0600, M. Warner Losh wrote: In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL

Re: gcc related -current upgrade problems

2003-07-26 Thread Alex Zepeda
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 05:45:10PM -0700, Scott M. Likens wrote: These issues have been addressed in KDE 3.1.3 if you're patient enough for Will to work out the kinks the ports will be updated in a week or less. The issue is not KDE related one, rather the base c++ headers trigger all sorts

kernel build failure: mga_state.c

2003-07-26 Thread Khairil Yusof
cc -c -O -pipe -march=pentium3 -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -nostdinc -I- -I. -I/usr/src/sys -I/usr/src/sys/dev -I/usr/src/sys/contrib/dev/acpica

Re: Mapping Video BIOS?

2003-07-26 Thread M. Warner Losh
In message: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : Presuming that it's the ROM driver, I get this in the dmesg I posted: : pnpbios: Bad PnP BIOS data checksum That's likely the problem. However, PnP BIOS information isn't the same thing that the orm[sic]

Re: kernel build failure: mga_state.c

2003-07-26 Thread Kris Kennaway
Have you not been reading the mailing list? Right now you are supposed to WERROR if you run into these. Kris pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: FreeBSD 5.1-R kernel panic

2003-07-26 Thread Stephane Raimbault
Well, I had compiled options DDB into the kernel and today the kernel panic'd... here is what I got. I ran the following in the db prompt. trace, show reg, ps. Let me know if this is the kind of information you need, and if there is anything else I need to provide... can I re-compile the kernel

[current tinderbox] failure on alpha/alpha

2003-07-26 Thread Tinderbox
TB --- 2003-07-27 04:00:02 - starting CURRENT tinderbox run for alpha/alpha TB --- 2003-07-27 04:00:02 - checking out the source tree TB --- cd /home/des/tinderbox/CURRENT/alpha/alpha TB --- /usr/bin/cvs -f -R -q -d/home/ncvs update -Pd -A src TB --- 2003-07-27 04:01:59 - building world TB --- cd

Feasibility/Practicality of using GBDE to facilitate encryptedswap, md, /tmp, filesystems

2003-07-26 Thread John Stockdale
Hopefully PHK has a chance to look this one over, but if anyone else has any thoughts I'll take any opinions I can get. ;) I was looking over the 5.2 TODO and got curious as to the changes intended for GBDE to allow integration into the fstab / boot-time mount procedure. Unfortunately I have a