Re: new rc system

2003-09-11 Thread Terry Lambert
Doug Barton wrote: ntpd[ate] is a very difficult thing to order, because a lot of things need/want accurate time before they start, and yet by definition, ntp is a network protocol so it has a lot of other dependencies before it can even start. A lot of the things that ntp depends on (like

Why does bsdlabel autogenerate the 'a' partition?

2003-09-11 Thread Ian Freislich
Hi Why does the bsdlabel program autogenerate the 'a' partition? If I edit the disk label removing all partitions except for 'c' and then save it, a subsequent read of the disk label shows an 'a' partition has been made covering the whole disk. Even if I make another partition using the whole

Re: Internal compiler error in reload_cse_simplify_operands

2003-09-11 Thread Julian St.
Guess maybe it's hardware-related. Was hoping to find a solution that would clear any charges against my new hardware, but I guess that's all that's left. *sigh* Did you try a packaged GCC? You could try: pkg_add -r gcc33 and use it instead... Regards, Julian -- Always make

Re: new rc system

2003-09-11 Thread Peter Jeremy
On Wed, Sep 10, 2003 at 05:00:49PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote: [re-ordering rc.d scripts] This is a known shortcoming in the new rc system. Luke Mewburn commented on it in a talk recently but does not yet have a satisfactory solution. Can you describe in more detail what you mean by this is a

Re: Quo vadis, -CURRENT? (recent changes to cc compatibility)

2003-09-11 Thread Alexander Leidinger
On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 12:41:41 -0400 Michael Edenfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Err, not quite. Tried to build gnome2 lately? :) gnome2 depends on gnomemedia2. gnomemedia2 depends on gstreamer-plugins. gstreamer-plugins fails because ARTSD_FLAGS in several dozen Makefiles includes

Double panics with g_up

2003-09-11 Thread Andrey Chernov
I saw this already 5 times. It is _always_ double panic. Second panic may vary (f.e. clock, etc) but first one _always_ in g_up. Since second panic is on the way, there is no usable stack trace remains. My suggestion: can we add sysctl to NOT sync disk after panic but reboot immediately to

Re: Double panics with g_up

2003-09-11 Thread Michael Reifenberger
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003, Andrey Chernov wrote: Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 13:08:49 +0400 From: Andrey Chernov [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Double panics with g_up I saw this already 5 times. It is _always_ double panic. Second panic may vary (f.e. clock, etc) but first one

Re: PXE boot loader

2003-09-11 Thread Alex Dupre
I found the issue. I was doing: cd /usr/src/sys/boot make depend make cp /usr/src/sys/boot/i386/pxeldr/pxeboot /tftpboot This works os -stable, but not on -current (dunno why)...the pxeboot is created without problems, but doesn't work. However, building world as usual creates a working pxeboot

Work around for the xl driver

2003-09-11 Thread Soeren Straarup
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi I've seen some posts on this mailing list. I have a 3com 3ccfe575bt-d and i was wondering is there a workaround to get this card back to working? something like sysctl this=that ? Best regards Søren PSE (B)CC me i'm subscribing to this list

upgrade from static to dynamic root

2003-09-11 Thread Harti Brandt
Hi, I just tried to upgrade one of my systems from a static root from july to an actual dynamic root. The installworld went fine 'til the place where /bin/test is installed. At that point the installation stopped with ELF interpreter /libexec/ld-elf.so.1 not found. And really /libexec is not

Compact Flash PCMCIA adapted failes

2003-09-11 Thread Gunnar Flygt
I run CURRENT as of last week. I try to use a PCMCIA CF adapter, but gets some errors. If I boot with it I get this in dmesg: ata2: TOSHIBA THNCF064MBA at port 0x100-0x10f irq 11 function 0 config 1 on pccard0 ad0: 28615MB FUJITSU MHR2030AT [58140/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA100 acd0: CDRW

Re: Double panics with g_up

2003-09-11 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
I have yet to see any information from you I can use to do debugging. See our handbook if you are in doubt what we need. Poul-Henning In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Andrey Chernov writes: I saw this already 5 times. It is _always_ double panic. Second panic may vary (f.e. clock, etc) but first

Re: new rc system

2003-09-11 Thread James Quick
On Thursday, September 11, 2003, at 04:36 AM, Peter Jeremy wrote: On Wed, Sep 10, 2003 at 05:00:49PM -0700, Doug Barton wrote: [re-ordering rc.d scripts] This is a known shortcoming in the new rc system. Luke Mewburn commented on it in a talk recently but does not yet have a satisfactory

Re: ufs related panic with latest current

2003-09-11 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Tomi Vainio - Sun Finland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you could just give instructions what you wanna get when system panics I might be able to persuade the other that we should crash our system once more. I already have. DES -- Dag-Erling Smørgrav - [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Corrent Build Error

2003-09-11 Thread Sebastian Yepes F. [ESN]
My src haves been cvs from to day.. cc -c -O -pipe -march=pentium4 -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -std=c99 -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../../.. -I../../../contrib/dev/acpica

Re: re-fdisk'ing a partition - permission denied?

2003-09-11 Thread Josef Karthauser
On Tue, Sep 09, 2003 at 05:14:15PM +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kevin Oberman writes: In any case, since GEOM was added you can no longer slice or label an active device. As a result, the only way I know of to change slices or labels on V5 is to boot off of

Re: re-fdisk'ing a partition - permission denied?

2003-09-11 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Josef Karthauser writes: --7UIJfHqpdi+oBJdT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Sep 09, 2003 at 05:14:15PM +0200, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kevin

route problems in 5.1-RELEASE

2003-09-11 Thread Jesse Guardiani
Howdy list, I'm having major problems with the route command today. My machine is an IBM Thinkpad A30p laptop, running FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE. I have two interfaces. wi0 and fxp0 Normally, if I want to swap from wi0 to fxp0, all I have to do is: killall dhclient ifconfig wi0 down ifconfig fxp0 up

Re: route problems in 5.1-RELEASE

2003-09-11 Thread Kevin Oberman
From: Jesse Guardiani [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 16:19:42 -0400 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Howdy list, I'm having major problems with the route command today. My machine is an IBM Thinkpad A30p laptop, running FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE. I have two interfaces. wi0 and fxp0

Re: route problems in 5.1-RELEASE

2003-09-11 Thread Jesse Guardiani
Kevin Oberman wrote: From: Jesse Guardiani [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 16:19:42 -0400 Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Howdy list, I'm having major problems with the route command today. My machine is an IBM Thinkpad A30p laptop, running FreeBSD 5.1-RELEASE. I have two

The bikeshed T-shirt

2003-09-11 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
The bikeshed T-shirt which has been referred about was only produced in 5 copies and I hadn't really expected that so many people would ask me about it. I don't want to get into the clothing business, so if you want one, you'll probably have to make it yourself. I can ask the company which

Re: The bikeshed T-shirt

2003-09-11 Thread Robert Watson
On Fri, 12 Sep 2003, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: The bikeshed T-shirt which has been referred about was only produced in 5 copies and I hadn't really expected that so many people would ask me about it. I don't want to get into the clothing business, so if you want one, you'll probably have

RE: The bikeshed T-shirt

2003-09-11 Thread Cagle, John (ISS-Houston)
Cool! BTW, the real links are: http://phk.freebsd.dk/misc/bsdcon03.fig http://phk.freebsd.dk/misc/bsdcon03.pdf ...but I would have used a blue bicycle and a white roof. ;-) John -Original Message- From: Poul-Henning Kamp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 11,

Page fault on boot when probing IBM ServeRAID Adapter on Netfinity 4000R

2003-09-11 Thread Ian Morrison
hi, i've just got hold of an IBM Netfinity 4000R system (8653-45Y) which uses an IBM ServeRaid-3L to control two 9 gig disks. Drives are set up as a standard mirror, and online. Booting from 5.1-RELEASE and the latest snapshot i could find both result in a kernel panic on boot. i've included

Re: route problems in 5.1-RELEASE

2003-09-11 Thread Martin Blapp
Hi, Normally, if I want to swap from wi0 to fxp0, all I have to do is: killall dhclient ifconfig wi0 down ifconfig fxp0 up dhclient fxp0 Why don't you just update to 5.X, run mergemaster- Then just remove the wi0 card and plug in a ethernet cable to the internal NIC ? This works wonderful

Re: The bikeshed T-shirt

2003-09-11 Thread Brad Knowles
At 1:05 AM +0200 2003/09/12, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: I don't want to get into the clothing business, so if you want one, you'll probably have to make it yourself. I can ask the company which produced them if they will be willing to ship abroad, but I doubt they are set up for that sort of

Re: The bikeshed T-shirt

2003-09-11 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Brad Knowles writes: I have interpreted your post to mean that it's okay for other people to print up t-shirts, based on this image. However, if you prefer that I take this down, just let me know. Yes, absolutely. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since

Re: Question related to FreeBSD Serial Console...

2003-09-11 Thread Gordon Tetlow
On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 12:18:51PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hiya Unfortunately, many motherboards (BIOSs?) won't initialise a PS/2 keyboard interface unless a keyboard is connected at boot time, so if you plug in a keyboard subsequently it won't work. Nothing the OS can do in

Re: The bikeshed T-shirt

2003-09-11 Thread Brad Knowles
At 2:11 AM +0200 2003/09/12, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: Yes, absolutely. Okay, it should be down in a few minutes. If you are serious about wanting to make the image available to others for use on t-shirts, I would encourage you to set up your own CafePress shop, as one of the easiest ways to

Re: The bikeshed T-shirt

2003-09-11 Thread Brad Knowles
At 2:00 AM +0200 2003/09/12, Brad Knowles wrote: Problem solved. See http://www.cafeshops.com/cmvp.7534915. Note that these are being sold at cost (something any other CafePress member can confirm). Per PHK's request, I am taking this down. The PNG version I created is at

RE: The bikeshed T-shirt

2003-09-11 Thread David Schwartz
At 2:11 AM +0200 2003/09/12, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: Yes, absolutely. Okay, it should be down in a few minutes. If you are serious about wanting to make the image available to others for use on t-shirts, I would encourage you to set up your own CafePress shop, as one of

Re: The bikeshed T-shirt

2003-09-11 Thread Andrew Thompson
Brad Knowles wrote: At 2:00 AM +0200 2003/09/12, Brad Knowles wrote: Problem solved. See http://www.cafeshops.com/cmvp.7534915. Note that these are being sold at cost (something any other CafePress member can confirm). Per PHK's request, I am taking this down. My interpretation of

How do put an ATA disk into sleep/standby mode?

2003-09-11 Thread Darren Pilgrim
In my workstation, running 5.1-R, I have two disks, one containing FreeBSD, the other Windows. Since the Windows disk isn't used at all when in FreeBSD, I would like to put it into standby or sleep mode (whichever is necessary) to make it spin down, reducing heat and noise production--both of

Re: The bikeshed T-shirt

2003-09-11 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Brad Knowles wrote: At 2:11 AM +0200 2003/09/12, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: Yes, absolutely. Okay, it should be down in a few minutes. If you are serious about wanting to make the image available to others for use on t-shirts, I would encourage you to set up your own CafePress shop,

Re: The bikeshed T-shirt

2003-09-11 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
David Schwartz wrote: At 2:11 AM +0200 2003/09/12, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: Yes, absolutely. Okay, it should be down in a few minutes. If you are serious about wanting to make the image available to others for use on t-shirts, I would encourage you to set up your own CafePress

Re: The bikeshed T-shirt

2003-09-11 Thread Brad Knowles
At 10:17 PM -0300 2003/09/11, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: Yes. Maybe we should remove Brad's commit bit until he puts the t-shirt up again??? :-) I concede that I may have mis-interpreted PHK's response, but before I consider putting the shirt design back up, I need to get explicit confirmation

bikeshed

2003-09-11 Thread masta
Did you ever consider that your doing exactly what phk's logo protests? ;) Maybe that is why phk hasn't responded any further, because he's laughing at you! You have to admit that is just a bit ironic. -masta At 10:17 PM -0300 2003/09/11, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: Yes. Maybe we should remove

Re: The bikeshed T-shirt

2003-09-11 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Brad Knowles writes: At 2:11 AM +0200 2003/09/12, Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: Yes, absolutely. Okay, it should be down in a few minutes. You misunderstood: Yes, it is absolutely OK for you do print T-shirts, mugs, or anything else you might want to use it

Re: bikeshed

2003-09-11 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] ibsd.org writes: Did you ever consider that your doing exactly what phk's logo protests? ;) Maybe that is why phk hasn't responded any further, because he's laughing at you! You have to admit that is just a bit ironic. Well, the reason I didn't

Crash in swapgeom_strategy?

2003-09-11 Thread Eivind Olsen
Hello. My FreeBSD server has been getting panics for the last few days and the panics always refer to swapgeom_strategy. Here's a transcription of what I can see: vimes# uname -a FreeBSD vimes.eivind 5.1-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.1-CURRENT #0: Wed Sep 10 09:36:05 CEST 2003 [EMAIL

Re: bikeshed

2003-09-11 Thread David O'Brien
On Fri, Sep 12, 2003 at 04:02:03AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you ever consider that your doing exactly what phk's logo protests? ;) Maybe that is why phk hasn't responded any further, because he's laughing at you! You have to admit that is just a bit ironic. Actually looks more like