Re: Booting from ZFS root on MBR layout fails on ThinkPad X61s

2014-06-08 Thread Sevan / Venture37
On 17 May 2014 18:55, Sevan / Venture37 ventur...@gmail.com wrote: For archaeological reasons, the X61s was able to boot using ZFS on a BSD partition scheme (Thanks to Allen), the system can also boot from a ZFS volume with a MBR partition scheme if you *do not* use the stock FreeBSD boot

Re: Turning TESTS on by default

2014-06-08 Thread Julio Merino
On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 11:33 PM, Konstantin Belousov kostik...@gmail.com wrote: It is the same as the debugging kernel. The INVARIANTS, WITNESS, DEBUG and DIAGNOSTIC options are not enabled for the user consumption. No; this is not the same at all. All the options you mention introduce a

Re: Turning TESTS on by default

2014-06-08 Thread Julio Merino
On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Konstantin Belousov kostik...@gmail.com wrote: Could somebody point out a popular software system that spills the tests or other developer-only[*] stuff into the production install ? I immediately remember the perl and its modules which have very extensive test

Re: Turning TESTS on by default

2014-06-08 Thread Warren Block
On Sun, 8 Jun 2014, Julio Merino wrote: On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 11:33 PM, Konstantin Belousov kostik...@gmail.com wrote: It is the same as the debugging kernel. The INVARIANTS, WITNESS, DEBUG and DIAGNOSTIC options are not enabled for the user consumption. No; this is not the same at all. All

Re: Turning TESTS on by default

2014-06-08 Thread Julio Merino
On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: How much of an impact does the test suite have in terms of disk space (probably not much) It clocks at 11MB now on amd64. and buildworld time (possibly not much, either)? Haven't measured. Note, though, that the majority

Re: Turning TESTS on by default

2014-06-08 Thread Adrian Chadd
On 8 June 2014 11:52, Julio Merino j...@freebsd.org wrote: On Sun, Jun 8, 2014 at 1:50 PM, Warren Block wbl...@wonkity.com wrote: How much of an impact does the test suite have in terms of disk space (probably not much) It clocks at 11MB now on amd64. and buildworld time (possibly not much,

Re: Turning TESTS on by default

2014-06-08 Thread Glen Barber
On Sun, Jun 08, 2014 at 01:33:31PM -0700, Adrian Chadd wrote: Now, as for how much bloat it adds to the CD images... Enough that it will be turned off for the CDs. Glen pgpSgQfS5INoO.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Booting from ZFS root on MBR layout fails on ThinkPad X61s

2014-06-08 Thread Sevan / Venture37
On 08/06/2014 16:33, Sevan / Venture37 wrote: On 17 May 2014 18:55, Sevan / Venture37ventur...@gmail.com wrote: For archaeological reasons, the X61s was able to boot using ZFS on a BSD partition scheme (Thanks to Allen), the system can also boot from a ZFS volume with a MBR partition scheme if

Re: wlan0/iwn: no upload statistics

2014-06-08 Thread Kevin Oberman
On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 7:19 AM, bycn82 byc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, 1. I checked the source code of systat, it actually read from the mibdata, so the result should be the same as sysctl. 2. According to David's email, seems the netstat can show the correct output octets. Sorry I don’t