Re: -current unusable after a crash

2002-11-25 Thread Marcin Dalecki
Dan Nelson wrote: In the last episode (Nov 25), Terry Lambert said: Marcin Dalecki wrote: I don't think this is really possible. I went looking for a generic "application use" CMOS are for this sort of thing a while back, and I was unable to find one. Well you should please take a look at t

Re: -current unusable after a crash

2002-11-25 Thread Terry Lambert
Dan Nelson wrote: > > Is there documentation available for this anywhere? The BIOS vendor > > documentation, not the Linux source code. > > http://www.microsoft.com/hwdev/resources/specs/simp_bios.asp > http://www.microsoft.com/hwdev/resources/specs/simp_boot.asp > > is the best I could find; yo

Re: -current unusable after a crash

2002-11-25 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Nov 25), Terry Lambert said: > Marcin Dalecki wrote: > > > I don't think this is really possible. > > > > > > I went looking for a generic "application use" CMOS are for this > > > sort of thing a while back, and I was unable to find one. > > > > Well you should please take a

Re: -current unusable after a crash

2002-11-25 Thread Terry Lambert
Marcin Dalecki wrote: > > I don't think this is really possible. > > > > I went looking for a generic "application use" CMOS are for this > > sort of thing a while back, and I was unable to find one. > > Well you should please take a look at the "fast boot" option > of moderately modern BIOS-es. S

Re: -current unusable after a crash

2002-11-25 Thread Terry Lambert
Brad Knowles wrote: > At 2:02 PM -0800 2002/11/25, Terry Lambert wrote: > > If you made system dumps mandatory (or marked swap with a non-dump > > header in case of panic), this still would not handle the "silent > > reboot", "double panic", or "single panic with disk I/O trashed" > > cases. 8

Re: -current unusable after a crash

2002-11-25 Thread Terry Lambert
Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 02:02:14PM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: > > I don't think this is really possible. > > Yeah :( > > > If you made system dumps mandatory (or marked swap with a non-dump > > header in case of panic), this still would not handle the "silent > > reboot",

Re: -current unusable after a crash

2002-11-25 Thread Brad Knowles
At 2:02 PM -0800 2002/11/25, Terry Lambert wrote: If you made system dumps mandatory (or marked swap with a non-dump header in case of panic), this still would not handle the "silent reboot", "double panic", or "single panic with disk I/O trashed" cases. 8-(. How about we do the safe thin

Re: -current unusable after a crash

2002-11-25 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 02:02:14PM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: > I don't think this is really possible. Yeah :( > If you made system dumps mandatory (or marked swap with a non-dump > header in case of panic), this still would not handle the "silent > reboot", "double panic", or "single panic wit

Re: -current unusable after a crash

2002-11-25 Thread Marcin Dalecki
Terry Lambert wrote: Kris Kennaway wrote: On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 10:24:46AM -0500, Robert Watson wrote: I thought, this might be due to the priority of the background fsck and have once left it alone for several hours -- with no effect. The usual fsck takes a few minutes. We really need to

Re: -current unusable after a crash

2002-11-25 Thread Terry Lambert
Mikhail Teterin wrote: > On Monday 25 November 2002 12:24 pm, Kris Kennaway wrote: > = On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 10:24:46AM -0500, Robert Watson wrote: > = > = > > I thought, this might be due to the priority of the background > = > > fsck and have once left it alone for several hours -- with no > =

Re: -current unusable after a crash

2002-11-25 Thread Terry Lambert
Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 10:24:46AM -0500, Robert Watson wrote: > > > I thought, this might be due to the priority of the background fsck and > > > have once left it alone for several hours -- with no effect. The usual > > > fsck takes a few minutes. > > We really need to dis

Re: -current unusable after a crash

2002-11-25 Thread Archie Cobbs
Mikhail Teterin wrote: > The only way to get my -current system back to normal after a crash is > to boot into single user and do an explicit ``fsck -p''. > > Otherwise the system will, seemingly, boot fine, but none of the ttyvs > will accept any input, although tty-switching works fine. Remote >

Re: -current unusable after a crash

2002-11-25 Thread Mikhail Teterin
On Monday 25 November 2002 12:24 pm, Kris Kennaway wrote: = On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 10:24:46AM -0500, Robert Watson wrote: = = > > I thought, this might be due to the priority of the background = > > fsck and have once left it alone for several hours -- with no = > > effect. The usual fsck takes a

Re: -current unusable after a crash

2002-11-25 Thread Kris Kennaway
On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 10:24:46AM -0500, Robert Watson wrote: > > I thought, this might be due to the priority of the background fsck and > > have once left it alone for several hours -- with no effect. The usual > > fsck takes a few minutes. We really need to disable background fsck if the sys

Re: -current unusable after a crash

2002-11-25 Thread Robert Watson
On Mon, 25 Nov 2002, Mikhail Teterin wrote: > The only way to get my -current system back to normal after a crash is > to boot into single user and do an explicit ``fsck -p''. > > Otherwise the system will, seemingly, boot fine, but none of the ttyvs > will accept any input, although tty-switch

-current unusable after a crash

2002-11-25 Thread Mikhail Teterin
The only way to get my -current system back to normal after a crash is to boot into single user and do an explicit ``fsck -p''. Otherwise the system will, seemingly, boot fine, but none of the ttyvs will accept any input, although tty-switching works fine. Remote connections (ssh, telnet) don't br