Re: HEADS UP! ATA driver (atapi DMA)..

1999-09-01 Thread Oliver Fromme
Daniel O'Connor wrote in list.freebsd-current: > On 31-Aug-99 Kevin Street wrote: > > > Well 2MB/sec == 14x CDRom drive. Is it a 14x CDRom drive? CDRom > > > drives are typically limited to how quickly they can get data off > > > the platter. A faster bus transfer will not impro

Re: HEADS UP! ATA driver (atapi DMA)..

1999-08-31 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On 01-Sep-99 Daniel O'Connor wrote: > Of course given the advent of CLV drives a speed rating is now usually the > maximum read speed, not the average. Oops.. I mean CAV drives.. Constant Angular Velocity not Constant Linear Velocity. --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Gene

Re: HEADS UP! ATA driver (atapi DMA)..

1999-08-31 Thread Daniel O'Connor
On 31-Aug-99 Kevin Street wrote: > > Well 2MB/sec == 14x CDRom drive. Is it a 14x CDRom drive? CDRom > > drives are typically limited to how quickly they can get data off > > the platter. A faster bus transfer will not improve that. > I should have mentioned that ... it's a 32x cd

Re: HEADS UP! ATA driver (atapi DMA)..

1999-08-31 Thread Richard Tobin
> lineal velocity (and hence data rate) increases from the inside > (start) to the outside (end) of the disk. And consequently any CD that isn't completely full will *always* be slower than the quoted ("guaranteed not to exceed") rate. -- Richard To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: HEADS UP! ATA driver (atapi DMA)..

1999-08-31 Thread Warner Losh
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Kevin Street writes: : I should have mentioned that ... it's a 32x cdrom. dmesg says it : claims to be able to do 5515 KB/sec. Is it a 32x cdrom or a 32x mamimum cdrom? There have been many of the big-num speed max, smaller-num speed average drives on the market

Re: HEADS UP! ATA driver (atapi DMA)..

1999-08-31 Thread Peter Jeremy
David Scheidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Almost all fast (>12X or so) CD-ROM drives are variable speed. To put this a different way, the data on CD's is stored at a constant lineal density (closely related to the wavelength of the laser). Audio CDs are read using constant-linear-velocity, the an

Re: HEADS UP! ATA driver (atapi DMA)..

1999-08-31 Thread Kevin Street
Soren Schmidt writes: >Depends.. There are many factors involved here, using DMA only lowers >the CPU usage, and will enable faster transfers if the problem was >that the CPU was saturated with the PIO transfer. It gave about >double the transfer rate on my old P6 based maschine, because the >CP

Re: HEADS UP! ATA driver (atapi DMA)..

1999-08-31 Thread Soren Schmidt
It seems Kevin Street wrote: > Two things I've noticed: > 1) my cdrom delivers about 2M/s which is the same as before DMA. Is > the improvement only in cpu usage or should I be seeing a speed > improvement too? Depends.. There are many factors involved here, using DMA only lowers the CPU usage,

Re: HEADS UP! ATA driver (atapi DMA)..

1999-08-31 Thread David Scheidt
On 31 Aug 1999, Kevin Street wrote: > Matthew Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > I should have mentioned that ... it's a 32x cdrom. dmesg says it > claims to be able to do 5515 KB/sec. > > I've played around with using dd ... skip=n to reposition which part > of the cd I'm reading and I'v

Re: HEADS UP! ATA driver (atapi DMA)..

1999-08-31 Thread Garrett Wollman
< said: > All modern CDRom units have vibration sensors (actually I think they > just use the error rate from the head) and will adjust the rotational > speed based on that as well as on the rate the data is being requested > at. So it will depend on the physical CD as well as ot

Re: HEADS UP! ATA driver (atapi DMA)..

1999-08-31 Thread Matthew Dillon
:Matthew Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: : :> :Two things I've noticed: :> :1) my cdrom delivers about 2M/s which is the same as before DMA. Is :> :the improvement only in cpu usage or should I be seeing a speed :> :improvement too? :> : :> :speed tested with: :> :dd if=/dev/racd0c of=/dev/n

Re: HEADS UP! ATA driver (atapi DMA)..

1999-08-31 Thread Kevin Street
Matthew Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > :Two things I've noticed: > :1) my cdrom delivers about 2M/s which is the same as before DMA. Is > :the improvement only in cpu usage or should I be seeing a speed > :improvement too? > : > :speed tested with: > :dd if=/dev/racd0c of=/dev/null bs=64k

Re: HEADS UP! ATA driver (atapi DMA)..

1999-08-31 Thread Matthew Dillon
:Two things I've noticed: :1) my cdrom delivers about 2M/s which is the same as before DMA. Is :the improvement only in cpu usage or should I be seeing a speed :improvement too? : :speed tested with: :dd if=/dev/racd0c of=/dev/null bs=64k count=320 :(I get it to spin up with another dd before t

Re: HEADS UP! ATA driver (atapi DMA)..

1999-08-31 Thread Kevin Street
Two things I've noticed: 1) my cdrom delivers about 2M/s which is the same as before DMA. Is the improvement only in cpu usage or should I be seeing a speed improvement too? speed tested with: dd if=/dev/racd0c of=/dev/null bs=64k count=320 (I get it to spin up with another dd before this test)

HEADS UP! ATA driver (atapi DMA)..

1999-08-31 Thread Soren Schmidt
A little while ago I enabled DMA on atapi devices, and while this generally is a good thing (CPU usage wise), there seems to be some delicate problems with this on some chipsets and devices. If you use the new ATA driver and has atapi devices that use DMA could you please check that they are wor