Re: HEADS UP: rc.d is in the tree

2002-06-16 Thread Doug Barton
Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: Are you talking with lukem about this? It would be nice to stay as compatible as possible. Greg, This, and many other questions of the same nature are answered in the extensive discussion on this topic in -arch. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL

Re: HEADS UP: rc.d is in the tree

2002-06-16 Thread Mike Makonnen
On Sat, 15 Jun 2002 15:18:43 -0700 Terry Lambert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Otherwise circular dependencies. That's what rcorder(8) is there for. It's not that simple. The most obvious example is the need to use DNS in order to look up syslog hosts, and whether you start syslogd

Re: HEADS UP: rc.d is in the tree

2002-06-15 Thread Gordon Tetlow
On Fri, 14 Jun 2002, Danny Braniss wrote: in amd, # REQUIRE: rpcbind mountall ypbind nfsclient ** since i don't use yp, how can i override this? or in other words, can REQUIRE be configurable too? This isn't a hard requirement for starting,

Re: HEADS UP: rc.d is in the tree

2002-06-15 Thread Gordon Tetlow
On Sat, 15 Jun 2002, Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: Hmm, appears to be Luke Mewburn's NetBSD stuff, which I know. Shouldn't there be an Obtained From: NetBSD in the commit messages? Heh, sorry about that. I thought taking if off the NETBSD vendor branch was enough of a hint. It appears that I

Re: HEADS UP: rc.d is in the tree

2002-06-15 Thread Gordon Tetlow
On Fri, 14 Jun 2002, Terry Lambert wrote: Mike Makonnen wrote: Danny Braniss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: in amd, # REQUIRE: rpcbind mountall ypbind nfsclient ** since i don't use yp, how can i override this? or in other words, can

Re: HEADS UP: rc.d is in the tree

2002-06-15 Thread David O'Brien
On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 03:30:19PM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: I.e. if REQUIRE describes soft dependency ordering, what describes hard dependency ordering? Why the need to distingish? To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message

Re: HEADS UP: rc.d is in the tree

2002-06-15 Thread Terry Lambert
David O'Brien wrote: On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 03:30:19PM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: I.e. if REQUIRE describes soft dependency ordering, what describes hard dependency ordering? Why the need to distingish? Otherwise circular dependencies. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL

Re: HEADS UP: rc.d is in the tree

2002-06-15 Thread Mike Makonnen
On Sat, 15 Jun 2002 12:49:52 -0700 Terry Lambert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David O'Brien wrote: On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 03:30:19PM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: I.e. if REQUIRE describes soft dependency ordering, what describes hard dependency ordering? Why the need to distingish?

Re: HEADS UP: rc.d is in the tree

2002-06-15 Thread Terry Lambert
Mike Makonnen wrote: On Sat, 15 Jun 2002 12:49:52 -0700 Terry Lambert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: David O'Brien wrote: On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 03:30:19PM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: I.e. if REQUIRE describes soft dependency ordering, what describes hard dependency ordering? Why

Re: HEADS UP: rc.d is in the tree

2002-06-15 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Saturday, 15 June 2002 at 11:30:08 -0700, Gordon Tetlow wrote: On Fri, 14 Jun 2002, Terry Lambert wrote: Mike Makonnen wrote: Danny Braniss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: in amd, # REQUIRE: rpcbind mountall ypbind nfsclient ** since i don't use yp,

Re: HEADS UP: rc.d is in the tree

2002-06-15 Thread Mike Makonnen
On Fri, 14 Jun 2002 15:30:19 -0700 Terry Lambert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ick. What should be used instead of REQUIRE to mean that it will be started? I.e. if REQUIRE describes soft dependency ordering, what describes hard dependency ordering? Correct, the REQUIRE line only describes

Re: HEADS UP: rc.d is in the tree

2002-06-15 Thread Mike Makonnen
On Sat, 15 Jun 2002 10:44:31 +0930 Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday, 13 June 2002 at 15:37:55 -0700, Gordon Tetlow wrote: I've imported the excellent work by Mike Makonnen into the tree. Can you summarize what the differences are? o Instead of a few monolithic

Re: HEADS UP: rc.d is in the tree

2002-06-15 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Saturday, 15 June 2002 at 0:34:36 -0700, Mike Makonnen wrote: On Sat, 15 Jun 2002 10:44:31 +0930 Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday, 13 June 2002 at 15:37:55 -0700, Gordon Tetlow wrote: I've imported the excellent work by Mike Makonnen into the tree. Can you

Re: HEADS UP: rc.d is in the tree

2002-06-15 Thread Mike Makonnen
On Sat, 15 Jun 2002 17:53:03 +0930 Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday, 15 June 2002 at 0:34:36 -0700, Mike Makonnen wrote: On Sat, 15 Jun 2002 10:44:31 +0930 Greg 'groggy' Lehey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday, 13 June 2002 at 15:37:55 -0700, Gordon Tetlow

Re: HEADS UP: rc.d is in the tree

2002-06-15 Thread Doug Barton
Greg 'groggy' Lehey wrote: Hmm, appears to be Luke Mewburn's NetBSD stuff, which I know. Shouldn't there be an Obtained From: NetBSD in the commit messages? Are you (or is anybody) doing something about keeping as close as possible to being in sync with NetBSD? This project has been

Re: HEADS UP: rc.d is in the tree

2002-06-14 Thread Dennis Kristensen
Gordon Tetlow wrote: ... Please try out the functionality by putting rc_ng=YES into your rc.conf and post any problems you might have. I have given this a try, but have a few problems. My rc.conf is attached. 1: When bringing up fxp0 with IP from DHCP i get: Doing initial network setup:

Re: HEADS UP: rc.d is in the tree

2002-06-14 Thread zhuravlev alexander
On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 03:28:40PM +0200, Dennis Kristensen wrote: Gordon Tetlow wrote: ... Please try out the functionality by putting rc_ng=YES into your rc.conf and post any problems you might have. I have given this a try, but have a few problems. My rc.conf is attached. 1:

Re: HEADS UP: rc.d is in the tree

2002-06-14 Thread Dennis Kristensen
zhuravlev alexander wrote: On Fri, Jun 14, 2002 at 03:28:40PM +0200, Dennis Kristensen wrote: Gordon Tetlow wrote: ... Please try out the functionality by putting rc_ng=YES into your rc.conf and post any problems you might have. I have given this a try, but have a few

Re: HEADS UP: rc.d is in the tree

2002-06-14 Thread Danny Braniss
in amd, # REQUIRE: rpcbind mountall ypbind nfsclient ** since i don't use yp, how can i override this? or in other words, can REQUIRE be configurable too? danny To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with unsubscribe freebsd-current in

Re: HEADS UP: rc.d is in the tree

2002-06-14 Thread Dennis Kristensen
Please try out the functionality by putting rc_ng=YES into your rc.conf and post any problems you might have. I have given this a try, but have a few problems. My rc.conf is attached. 1: When bringing up fxp0 with IP from DHCP i get: Doing initial network setup: hostnamefxp0:

Re: HEADS UP: rc.d is in the tree

2002-06-14 Thread Dennis Kristensen
Dennis Kristensen wrote: Gordon Tetlow wrote: ... Please try out the functionality by putting rc_ng=YES into your rc.conf and post any problems you might have. I have given this a try, but have a few problems. My rc.conf is attached. 2: Setting mta_start_script to , drops me into

Re: HEADS UP: rc.d is in the tree

2002-06-14 Thread Mike Makonnen
On Fri, 14 Jun 2002 19:38:15 +0200 Dennis Kristensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sendmail_enable=NONE did'nt help either. This can be fixed with below patch. It still complains with /etc/rc: WARNING: $sendmail_enable is not set properly. but sendmail is no longer started. [patch ommited]

Re: HEADS UP: rc.d is in the tree

2002-06-14 Thread Mike Makonnen
On Fri, 14 Jun 2002 16:55:40 +0300 Danny Braniss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: in amd, # REQUIRE: rpcbind mountall ypbind nfsclient ** since i don't use yp, how can i override this? or in other words, can REQUIRE be configurable too? The REQUIRE

Re: HEADS UP: rc.d is in the tree

2002-06-14 Thread Terry Lambert
Mike Makonnen wrote: Danny Braniss [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: in amd, # REQUIRE: rpcbind mountall ypbind nfsclient ** since i don't use yp, how can i override this? or in other words, can REQUIRE be configurable too? The REQUIRE line

Re: HEADS UP: rc.d is in the tree

2002-06-14 Thread Greg 'groggy' Lehey
On Thursday, 13 June 2002 at 15:37:55 -0700, Gordon Tetlow wrote: I've imported the excellent work by Mike Makonnen into the tree. Can you summarize what the differences are? Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with

HEADS UP: rc.d is in the tree

2002-06-13 Thread Gordon Tetlow
I've imported the excellent work by Mike Makonnen into the tree. Please note that it should be fully functional but there are some parts that need some looking at: atm ipfilter some others that I'm forgetting Hopefully Mike will chime in with some others. Please try out the functionality by

Re: HEADS UP: rc.d is in the tree

2002-06-13 Thread Mike Makonnen
On Thu, 13 Jun 2002 15:37:55 -0700 (PDT) Gordon Tetlow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've imported the excellent work by Mike Makonnen into the tree. Please note that it should be fully functional but there are some parts that need some looking at: atm ipfilter some others that I'm