Re: Has the update procedure changed?

2023-08-11 Thread Tomoaki AOKI
On Fri, 11 Aug 2023 15:27:46 +0200 Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > Tomoaki AOKI writes: > > This can help new installation using release tarballs (official or > > locally built) or upgrading with overwriting using said tarballs, but > > how does freebsd-update? > > freebsd-update uses the same

Re: Has the update procedure changed?

2023-08-11 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Tomoaki AOKI writes: > This can help new installation using release tarballs (official or > locally built) or upgrading with overwriting using said tarballs, but > how does freebsd-update? freebsd-update uses the same release process. DES -- Dag-Erling Smørgrav - d...@freebsd.org

Re: Has the update procedure changed?

2023-08-10 Thread Tomoaki AOKI
On Thu, 10 Aug 2023 16:08:26 +0200 Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote: > Tomoaki AOKI writes: > > Yes. But if bsdinstall and freebsd-update automatically bootstrap > > etcupdate if not yet done, newbies and casual users wouldn't be bitten. > >

Re: Has the update procedure changed?

2023-08-10 Thread Tomoaki AOKI
On Thu, 10 Aug 2023 03:15:43 -0700 (PDT) "Jeffrey Bouquet" wrote: > On Thu, 10 Aug 2023 06:32:14 +0900, Tomoaki AOKI > wrote: > > > On Wed, 9 Aug 2023 05:50:05 -0700 > > David Wolfskill wrote: > > > > > On Wed, Aug 09, 2023 at 09:38:22PM +0900, Tomoaki AOKI wrote: > > > > ... > > > > > > >

Re: Has the update procedure changed?

2023-08-10 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Tomoaki AOKI writes: > Yes. But if bsdinstall and freebsd-update automatically bootstrap > etcupdate if not yet done, newbies and casual users wouldn't be bitten. https://cgit.freebsd.org/src/commit/?id=e9120a256075543376496fbd75949eed1f13a887 DES -- Dag-Erling Smørgrav - d...@freebsd.org

Re: Has the update procedure changed?

2023-08-09 Thread Tomoaki AOKI
On Wed, 9 Aug 2023 05:50:05 -0700 David Wolfskill wrote: > On Wed, Aug 09, 2023 at 09:38:22PM +0900, Tomoaki AOKI wrote: > > ... > > > > Please correct me if I'm missing something. > > I use source update for years and not using bsdinstall nor > > freebsd-update. > > > > Does bsdinstall

Re: Has the update procedure changed?

2023-08-09 Thread Tomoaki AOKI
On Tue, 8 Aug 2023 23:22:32 -0700 Kevin Oberman wrote: > On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 9:12 AM Matthias Apitz wrote: > > > El día lunes, agosto 07, 2023 a las 08:51:55a. m. -0700, Kevin Oberman > > escribió: > > > > > On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 9:51 AM Tim Kellers wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On

Re: Has the update procedure changed?

2023-08-09 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día miércoles, agosto 09, 2023 a las 12:40:31 +0200, Miroslav Lachman escribió: > On 09/08/2023 08:22, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > > I don't see how you get this from the man page. > > "Compares only files known to be > >                  essential to the success of {build|install}world, i.e.,

Re: Has the update procedure changed?

2023-08-09 Thread Miroslav Lachman
On 09/08/2023 08:22, Kevin Oberman wrote: I don't see how you get this from the man page. "Compares only files known to be                  essential to the success of {build|install}world, i.e.,                  /etc/group and /etc/master.passwd. If it is potentially updating files that

Re: Has the update procedure changed?

2023-08-09 Thread Kevin Oberman
On Mon, Aug 7, 2023 at 9:12 AM Matthias Apitz wrote: > El día lunes, agosto 07, 2023 a las 08:51:55a. m. -0700, Kevin Oberman > escribió: > > > On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 9:51 AM Tim Kellers wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 6, 2023, at 11:05 AM, Kevin Oberman > wrote: > > > > > >  > > > On

Re: Has the update procedure changed?

2023-08-08 Thread Dag-Erling Smørgrav
Matthias Apitz writes: > I know the reason (the install process uses the old existing kldxref which > does > not can handle some things). I proceeded with the installation and all > is fine, the box is up again in multiuser and /usr/sbin/kldxref is now > from today. Should I run 'make

Re: Has the update procedure changed?

2023-08-08 Thread Graham Perrin
On 06/08/2023 09:20, Mark Millard wrote: … https://docs.freebsd.org/en/books/handbook/cutting-edge/#makeworld section 26.6.1 lists: # git pull /usr/src check /usr/src/UPDATING # cd /usr/src # make -j4 buildworld # make -j4 kernel # shutdown -r now # etcupdate -p # cd /usr/src # make

Re: Has the update procedure changed?

2023-08-08 Thread Graham Perrin
On 08/08/2023 03:50, Robert Huff wrote: … 1) It would be really nice is someone would take a look and make sure these 100% non-contradictory. … Looks by people should, ideally, include: 209744 – Move installation

Re: Has the update procedure changed?

2023-08-07 Thread Mark Millard
On Aug 7, 2023, at 19:50, Robert Huff wrote: > Mark Millard writes: > >> The material in 26.6.5 does not repeat all that, it is >> more of a summary that is presented. >> >> There are also instructions in UPDATING (near the end) >> and yet other instructions in Makefile (leading >>

RE: Has the update procedure changed?

2023-08-07 Thread Robert Huff
Mark Millard writes: > The material in 26.6.5 does not repeat all that, it is > more of a summary that is presented. > > There are also instructions in UPDATING (near the end) > and yet other instructions in Makefile (leading > comments). > > I've not done detailed

Re: Has the update procedure changed?

2023-08-07 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día lunes, agosto 07, 2023 a las 08:51:55a. m. -0700, Kevin Oberman escribió: > On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 9:51 AM Tim Kellers wrote: > > > > > > > On Aug 6, 2023, at 11:05 AM, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > > >  > > On Sat, Aug 5, 2023 at 10:51 PM Matthias Apitz wrote: > > > >> In the past I was

Re: Has the update procedure changed?

2023-08-07 Thread Kevin Oberman
On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 9:51 AM Tim Kellers wrote: > > > On Aug 6, 2023, at 11:05 AM, Kevin Oberman wrote: > >  > On Sat, Aug 5, 2023 at 10:51 PM Matthias Apitz wrote: > >> In the past I was used to use the following procedure to install a new >> kernel and world: >> >> # cd /usr/src >>

Re: Has the update procedure changed?

2023-08-06 Thread Tim Kellers
On Aug 6, 2023, at 11:05 AM, Kevin Oberman wrote:On Sat, Aug 5, 2023 at 10:51 PM Matthias Apitz wrote:In the past I was used to use the following procedure to install a new kernel and world:     # cd /usr/src     # make installkernel     # shutdown -r now     boot -s from

Re: Has the update procedure changed?

2023-08-06 Thread Kevin Oberman
On Sat, Aug 5, 2023 at 10:51 PM Matthias Apitz wrote: > In the past I was used to use the following procedure to install a new > kernel and world: > > # cd /usr/src > # make installkernel > # shutdown -r now > > boot -s from the loader prompt > > # adjkerntz -i > # mount

Re: Has the update procedure changed?

2023-08-06 Thread Matthias Apitz
El día domingo, agosto 06, 2023 a las 01:20:54a. m. -0700, Mark Millard escribió: > The material in 26.6.5 does not repeat all that, it is > more of a summary that is presented. > > There are also instructions in UPDATING (near the end) > and yet other instructions in Makefile (leading >

RE: Has the update procedure changed?

2023-08-06 Thread Mark Millard
Matthias Apitz wrote on Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2023 05:50:36 UTC : > In the past I was used to use the following procedure to install a new > kernel and world: > > # cd /usr/src > # make installkernel > # shutdown -r now > > boot -s from the loader prompt > > # adjkerntz -i > # mount -a -t ufs > #