Re: dc still reporting collisions

2003-11-17 Thread Doug White
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003, Jos Backus wrote: If its a real hub, hubs aren't full duplex. Yeah, I know (believe it or not, but my job description says Network Engineer :-). I don't make assumptions about titles and knowledge levels. :-) If its a switch, the switch and PC might not have

Re: dc still reporting collisions

2003-11-17 Thread Jos Backus
On Mon, Nov 17, 2003 at 09:14:05AM -0800, Doug White wrote: On Sat, 15 Nov 2003, Jos Backus wrote: Just because it's been working forever doesn't mean it can't fail. Of course. Ever heard of power surges? Static discharge? I've seen a tx on a Compaq motherboard go kaput with no

Re: dc still reporting collisions

2003-11-16 Thread Jos Backus
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 12:47:45PM -0600, Dan Nelson wrote: Are you sure your kernel, /usr/include/sys, and netstat are all up-to-date? I know mine are. What's odd in my case is that FreeBSD - Windows works but generates many collisions (11 MB file xfer results in roughly 8000 collisions) but

Re: dc still reporting collisions

2003-11-16 Thread Jos Backus
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 11:44:35PM -0800, Jos Backus wrote: On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 12:47:45PM -0600, Dan Nelson wrote: Are you sure your kernel, /usr/include/sys, and netstat are all up-to-date? I know mine are. What's odd in my case is that FreeBSD - Windows works but generates many

Re: dc still reporting collisions

2003-11-15 Thread Jos Backus
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 04:52:14PM +1000, Andy Farkas wrote: The dc(4) driver is still reporting collisions on 100 Mbit full-duplex links: [snip] netstat -i NameMtu Network Address Ipkts IerrsOpkts Oerrs Coll dc01500 Link#1 00:00:e8:89:b9:6626463

Re: dc still reporting collisions

2003-11-15 Thread Andy Farkas
Jos Backus wrote: Fwiw, I'm seeing the same with tx(4): Looks like a different problem. lizzy:~% ifconfig tx0 tx0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 inet 10.0.0.2 netmask 0xff00 broadcast 10.0.0.255 inet 10.0.0.10 netmask 0x broadcast

Re: dc still reporting collisions

2003-11-15 Thread Andy Farkas
Andy Farkas replies to himself: The dc(4) driver currently has an almost 1:1 ratio of packets:collisions. Your tx0 is quite low. Ack! I can't count. Or my numerical recognition system is failing NameMtu Network Address Ipkts IerrsOpkts Oerrs Coll dc01500

Re: dc still reporting collisions

2003-11-15 Thread Dan Nelson
In the last episode (Nov 15), Andy Farkas said: The dc(4) driver is still reporting collisions on 100 Mbit full-duplex links: ifconfig -a dc0: flags=8843UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST mtu 1500 inet 172.22.2.12 netmask 0xfff0 broadcast 172.22.2.15 ether

Re: dc still reporting collisions

2003-11-15 Thread Ceri Davies
On Fri, Nov 14, 2003 at 11:14:36PM -0800, Jos Backus wrote: On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 04:52:14PM +1000, Andy Farkas wrote: The dc(4) driver is still reporting collisions on 100 Mbit full-duplex links: [snip] netstat -i NameMtu Network Address Ipkts IerrsOpkts

Re: dc still reporting collisions

2003-11-15 Thread Jos Backus
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 05:23:08PM +1000, Andy Farkas wrote: Jos Backus wrote: Fwiw, I'm seeing the same with tx(4): Looks like a different problem. Probably. I was commenting on the (relatively) high collision count I'm seeing. This is a hub (DSL router) with 2 PC's on it. I have never

Re: dc still reporting collisions

2003-11-15 Thread Doug White
On Sat, 15 Nov 2003, Jos Backus wrote: On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 05:23:08PM +1000, Andy Farkas wrote: Jos Backus wrote: Fwiw, I'm seeing the same with tx(4): Looks like a different problem. Probably. I was commenting on the (relatively) high collision count I'm seeing. This is a hub

Re: dc still reporting collisions

2003-11-15 Thread Jos Backus
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 03:09:27PM -0800, Doug White wrote: On Sat, 15 Nov 2003, Jos Backus wrote: On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 05:23:08PM +1000, Andy Farkas wrote: Jos Backus wrote: Fwiw, I'm seeing the same with tx(4): Looks like a different problem. Probably. I was

Re: dc still reporting collisions

2003-11-15 Thread Peter Jeremy
On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 08:27:44PM +, Ceri Davies wrote: These probably are actual collisions though. The OP's point is that collisions are supposed to be impossible on a full duplex link, whereas in your situation they aren't. The collision mechanism is used for flow control on full-duplex