This is an old debate. However, if the user is not smart enough to know that a "not" release is new and should be tested, well, that speaks volumes itself doesn't it? Tom Veldhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- Original Message ----- From: David Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, March 21, 2000 10:37 AM Subject: Re: Voxware is toast. Get used to it. (Re: Suggestions for improving newpcm performance?) > Quoting <v04220821b4fd4f825554@[195.238.1.121]> > by Brad Knowles <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > We just got our official shrink-wrapped versions of Solaris 8 from > > Sun. Do you think we're actually going to be stupid enough to try > > to put this into production any time within the next few months? > > > It's an x.0 release from Sun, and we're going to treat it just like > > we do with x.0 releases from *any* vendor. We may play with it on > > our desktops, we may do some prototyping with it, etc.... > > Right, and if you try to upgrade your Solaris 7 desktop, which, while > not a production server, is a machine you personally need to do your > job, to Solaris 8, and it fails, and you call Sun about it, and they > tell you "Hey, what do you think you're doing? That's not ready for > real use yet!". You wouldn't be too impressed, would you? That's > basically the scenario I'm seeing with FreeBSD. > > > Thing is, it's *not* a beta anymore. It's more like a gamma > > version. > > Call it -GAMMA then. Bascially, I'm saying I think it should be called > something other than -RELEASE until the average user can install it, > and upgrade to it from the prior version. > > > The *only* way to proceed from here is to actually release the > > thing, let people start trying to use it, and then report bugs back. > > But we wouldn't be acting in good faith if we didn't at least warn > > people that it's not quite ready for use on production servers. > > IMHO the place for that warning is the release announcement and the > release notes, and it wasn't in either last I looked. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message